Interplay Countersuing Bethesda

October 19, 2009 -

The Fallout continues in court between Bethesda and Interplay over the deal that gave Betheda the rights to Fallout 3, Fallout 4 and Fallout 5.

According to a post on the Raging Bull forums by a user named frymuchan, Interplay has gotten a 10-day extension to answer a preliminary injunction filed by Bethesda. The crux of the issue seems to be that Bethesda is upset that Interplay started selling the original Fallout games after Fallout 3 was released. Interplay asserts that it retained those rights when it licensed out the future Fallout games to Bethesda.

Also, the post mentions that Interplay is countersuing Bethesda over assertions that Bethesda made to third parties in reference to the licensing agreement, hurting Interplay's business.

In regards to the Fallout MMO:

Interplay is stating that they fulfilled all rights of the agreement and told Bethesda such in a letter that posted prior to the agreement date in April of 2009, but Bethesda suddenly told Interplay, for no good reason, that they can no longer develop Fallout MMORPG. (Thus, Interplay is implicityly acknolwedging that they raised the requisite 35 million, which is very, very good news). Interplay was not allowed to sublicense the Fallout MMORPG out, as part of the original agreement, but Interplay craftily avoided this by not assigning any rights to Masthead Studios. Masthead studios is simply a technology and finance raising venture. Masthead does not get any rights to Fallout and was not sold Fallout MMORPG (sublicensing).

Frymuchan, who makes no secret that he is pro-Interplay, posted a followup as well:

What really blew me away was that Interplay argued in their court documents that Bethesda breached the contract and messed with Interplay every step of the way (such as sending letters to everyone that Interplay tried to sell the original Fallout games to) to such an extent that the contract is now null and void and therefore the former contract is in effect which states that Interplay owns the Fallout license and Bethesda sublicenses it and only has rights to Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 and Fallout 5. Instead of Interplay oweing Bethesda royalties from Fallout MMORPG, Bethesda should pay Interplay royalties from Fallout 3, in excess of 15-20 million (estimated) as well as damages to Interplay's name, etc. What an amazing, brilliant legal stroke that would be if Interplay pulled this off and REGAINED the Fallout license (AMAZING LEGAL SWITCHAROO) and to boot got a huge, huge settlement from Bethesda to use toward remaking their old games and/or toward Fallout MMORPG.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the courts, since there is obviously no love lost between Interplay and Bethesda, particularly given the huge success of Fallout 3 and the subsequent calmor over the revelation of the Fallout MMO. We'll continue to follow this once the 10-day extension is up.


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Re: Interplay Countersuing Bethesda

Maybe the recent merger with ID software will fix thier ailments.  Or make them worse.  I still cant see any bad in it though.

This is your typical situation when he said she said starts skewing contracts.

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The id thing wasn't exactly a merger. I remember Gamespot had a pretty detailed interview with someone from id right after it happened - the deal was that id was bought out by the same company that owns Bethesda, but the two developers are still functioning separately for the most part, aside from maybe sharing development tools if one has something the other could use.

I really hope Bethesda manages to snag id's animations team for some extra work, though. Much as I love their games, Bethesda's character animations have ALWAYS sucked horribly. =\
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I wish that Bethesda had ID bug fixing team... Seriously, some bugs in Fallout are there since Morrowind (YES, Fallout 3 and Morrowdind share the same engine, and some bugs are unfixed since Morrowind).

 

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Re: Interplay Countersuing Bethesda

You mean Oblivoin...


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So what is the problem,it seems that Interplay owns Fallout and is simply letting Bethesda make games in the series.

 

Plus like it matters anyways both these companies will end up being gobbled up by Take 2,Activision or THQ.

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Interplay actually sold the Fallout IP to Bethesda outright. The only rights they have left are for a Fallout MMO, and even then there are some stipulations, i.e. they were supposed to have raised $35 million and begun full scale development on the game by April of this year.

What they're trying to argue here is that Bethesda did something or other (I'm not too clear on exactly what) that voided the agreement so they're demanding that the IP revert back to them or some such.
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This always happens when people sell something and then the new owner makes money with it.  They want a piece of the pie now, pure and simple.

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Seriously? Interplay is gonna try and throw this kind of an insane temper tantrum after the shit they did in there death throws 4 or 5 years ago?

Does anyone over there think that the gaming community would take them seriously after they sodomized there sole remaining studio (black isle), and released abhorrent titles that NOBODY wanted? We all knew that an inhouse FO3 title was being made, but that got shit canned so that we could get BOS instead. We knew that baldurs gate 3 was in the works, but that got stuffed in favor of BG:DA 2. Nobody who was a fan of the studio was exactly forgiving when Blackisle saw the majority of there staff canned in december. And then there was lion heart... It didn't even *feel* like it was made by the same company.

My point is, that even if they pull this off, all it's going to do is piss off the gaming community.

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 I went back and played the original Fallouts. They pretty much stink now. Horrible controls:Turn based combat when you can move around the entire map just doesn't that well anymore, Way to Hard: Don't scream at me. The game was imbalanced in every way. Very Boring: YEAH I JUST SAID IT FALLOUT 1 AND 2 ARE BOOOOORRRRRINGGGG!!!!!

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I think your inability to type in the language which you obviously speak (probably not well) is indicative of the quality of your opinion.  Horrible controls?  More like Fallout 3 on consoles.  How is a mouse driven RPG interface "horrible controls"?  Do you have trouble clicking where you like to go?  Perhaps it's too difficult an exercise for your VATS-retarded mind.

 

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I think he's a Halo-tard who is so stupid he manages to poke himself in the eye with a mouse-pointer when he tries to use a PC.

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 Yes I love Halo.

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Whenever fighting the UI makes the controls unbearable. Why do I know this? Because I am studying to be a game designer in college and Fallout is a perfect example of what not to do when making a User Interface. 

 

Oh yes mocking my typing. That really brings across how intelligent you are. And dare should I mention that I built my pc and know perfectly well how to use it. I am a big fan of old rpgs just not Fallout. I love how you just assume I am a console fanboy based on nothing.

 

 

Just because you have fond memories of a game does not mean it is still good in comparison today.

 

 

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You're still wrong on and on.  The love for Fallout 1 and 2 has nothing to do with nostalgia; it has to do with them being a couple of the best RPGs ever made.  Ever.  There is a very good reason the fans are rabid in their support for it.

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Well one dose not have endless hours to put away into a well crafted RPG anymore...ntot hat many games are well crafted much less newer RPGs.

 

FO,baluders gate,arkanum,ect are tidous but are fun and witty, FO3 is cute but oh so half assed.


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Never could get into BG or Arcanum myself. I was more of a Dungeon Siege guy.

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oh gaaaa BG is tiduos ,Arcamun was better,even mroe so with a inventor gun user lead :X.


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Interplay is little more than a shell company run by a real piece of work.  Herve Caen's inept leadership is what killed Interplay in the first place and he's been structuring the business simply to keep his salary coming.  He ruined his other business (Titus Interactive) and when he should have been paying back his creditors, he diverted all the funds to Interplay and stiffed investors and staff.  He's repeatedly demosntrated himself to be untrustworthy and from what I understand, this "deal" with Masthead Studios to develop the Fallout MMO is little more than Interplay paying Masthead to rebrand their existing post-apocalyptic MMO Earthrise to Fallout so they can claim they have the project in development.  I would be very surprised if Interplay has anything in the right with this lawsuit.  The investor who posted is likely trying to trump up the lawsuit in the hope that they'll win and his 0.0001 stock will suddenly go up to a few cents which would probably make him a pretty penny.  Interplay's not a real company anymore, it's no better than these companies you see trolling patents.

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What an amazing, brilliant legal stroke that would be if Interplay pulled this off and REGAINED the Fallout license

Yeah, 'cause Interplay was doing so well with it back when they had the license. I've heard stories about Fallout's fan dumb, from Tactics to Brotherhood of Steel (a game that's so bad its horrible, from what I hear), and the biggest Fallout fan community on the web (NMA) sounds more like a haven for psychopaths than a place for fans to gather and talk.

Don't get me wrong, Bethesda has their faults, too. As much as I enjoyed Oblivion, it was one of the buggiest games I've played in recent memory, and it froze on me so many times. Fallout 3 was much more enjoyable (and was nowhere near as buggy), but it horribly sacrificed story for gameplay.

I personally wouldn't know who to side with on this matter, as I haven't really spent much time looking into it. But I'm personally bitter with Interplay due in part to the fact that I spent $20 on that Fallout Trilogy (I wanted to see what the older Fallout games were like) only for my computer to read it as a blank disc (I checked my disc drive, and nothing is wrong with it, mind you). At least Bethesda's games, buggy as they are, actually work.

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 Brotherhood of Steel replaced Nuka-Cola with real-world product placement for Bawls, if I recall correctly. So yeah, fans were kinda pissed.

From what I've heard of the old Fallout games, I think I'd still prefer Bethesda's incarnation. I can't imagine Fallout 3 with turn-based combat.

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"From what I've heard..."  Most people wouldn't want to put their inexperience on their sleeve with such an internet debate.  I've beaten Fallout 1-3 and I can say; FACT: The story in 3 is the least interesting of the bunch.  2 is a little better and 3 is a lotta better.  Fact: The combat in 3 is flashier, the combat in 1-2 more cerebral (and in my mind; a thousand times funner [crotch shot ftw]).

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You consider crotch shots to be the height of fun then?

Turn-based combat is an outdated mechanic that only existed because of technological limitations, I find it kind of strange people want to cling to it just because an older game employed it.

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Oh really so why haven't they updated chess to have real time mechanics?  Turn-based is simply a different form of game.

And the crotch shot thing was a just a jab at the crappy VATs system... the fun was the fact that combat required thinking; not go into slo mo, shoot head.

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"The story in 3 is the least interesting of the bunch.  2 is a little better and 3 is a lotta better. "

You might wanna have a look at what you said...

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ARGH I felt pain re-reading what I wrote.

 

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I read it as 1 is a lotta better 0-o


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"I can't imagine Fallout 3 with turn-based combat."

VATS sure as hell wasn't real-time.

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 It sure as hell wasn't turn-based either. It was also optional, you could play the entire game without it if you wanted to.

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And did you? (I.E. No, you didn't.)

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 It's often faster to just outright shoot things rather than using fancycool slowmo mode, but yes, fancycool slowmo VATS mode is pretty fun. That still doesn't make your point any more valid. Optional freeze-frame targeting is absolutely nothing like turn-based combat as a core part of gameplay.

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vats is so utterly borken theres no real use to it other than for people who cant aim 0-o


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 How was VATS "utterly broken"? You aim at body part. You shoot at body part. Your ability to hit body part is based on your skill in the weapon you're using and how close you are. It also looks cool and can make for flashy screenshots, but like I said it's completely optional so why complain about it?

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Or people who wanted something close to an actual Fallout experience. God I miss critical groin shots.

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I don't think that could win over any FO 1-2 fan 0_o


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Frist off how dose FO1-2 hurt FO3 and even the fudgeing MMO as they are compeltely diffrent games??

 

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Fallout 1 + 2 were style AND substance.

Fallout 3 was just "LOOKATDEPREETYGRAFFICS"

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That is not entirely true. There are fun quests, interesting characters, and a good story. I like the game.

Also, I think people tend to glamourize the games they played when they were younger. I'll bet you a whole generation will be saying "Fallout 5 was just flashy 4d graphics(yes, the game will travel in time) not like the depth of gameplay Fallout 3 had."

Different games, different generations, Fallout 3 is quite fun. I have and have played Fallout 1 and 2 and want to talk about a rushed buggy game, look at Fallout 2.

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Trust me, nobody is going to be talking about any depth Fallout 3 had.  Where was it?  Was it in that difficult moral decision of whether to blow up a city or not?  Yeah that's a tough choice.  Was it in those deep storylines for quests which were: "Go here, get this"?  The only good quest was making the survival book, and even saying that is a stretch.  Characters are cardboard thin, dialogue stock and boring, and the maturity level of an adolescent with delusions of grandeur.

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I LIKE you! :-P

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You are and have always been an idiot though.

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You symbolize everything that's wrong with the PC gaming community, DS.

Shahab is totally right - nostalgia has a way of blinding people into thinking the older stuff is always better. Sometimes it is, but that's not always the case, and people will continuously believe the new stuff is never as good as the old stuff. I used to have the same line of thought, but when you give the games a chance, you find that quite a few have some good merits. The older gamers usually aren't willing to do that, though.

Given your above comments, you sound like you've been a Fallout fan since the beginning. Don't be like those people, DS; they're batshit insane.

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Sorry most new games suck alot more than the older stuff did when it was new. Also FO3 is a half assed buggy joke, at least you could have fun with the FO1-2 bugs......


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Stating opinion like it's a fact. How cute.

If all these new games are crap, then why do you even bother to still play them? Are there any modern games (as in, current-gen games) that you actually like? From what I've read in the past about you and modern games, you sound less like a retro gamer and more along the lines of just downright unpleasable.

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Like filmns no one is that intrested in putting up a fuss they just go witht he flow like the good little sheep they are. I fight for every pennies worth and refuse to pay 50+(or 15+ a dvd/film) for half assed products.

 

Modern games are too focused on genreal demographics and graphics whitch  leavs game play weak with no solid testing it makes gaming worse than it was. IE you get more spam and less steak.


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I disagree - when you turn the nostalgia filter off, you realize there was a lot of crap even back on those old systems. The Angry Video Game Nerd makes that very clear with the truckloads of crap he plays.

Games are always focused on "general demographics" because those are people who are likely to buy the game. As grand as one's artistic endeavor may be, well... that's not going to pay the bills or put food on the table, now is it? You want to appeal to folks who you know are going to buy it, and thus they appeal to a general demographic. If you can slip in some innovation to help your game stand out, then all the better.

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You still haven't answered my question of what modern games you actually like or why you even bother playing these games if they all suck. What exactly are you doing to stop this apparent suckage?

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Yes general gamer demographics, these days they target anyone or the lowest/dumbest end of the pool stagnating gameplay even more.

Nostalgia is not much of a part of it I enjoyed FF 4 more than any other FF game but can;t really play it these days because its old, that and I have beat it a dozen hundred time, even FO 1-2 is tedious and slow but I still got more enjoyment and hours oput of it than FO3,bioshock and oblivion combined,. But my point is I am older and I have much less time to fool with costly shallow entertainment which modern media much less gaming has become. You want to defend costly broken,unfinished or limited content games that suckle on the DLC tit instead of finishing the product do that, I'd rather have the industry destroyed that see more crap come out of it, but then I am becoming a curmudgeon so meh.


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Yes general gamer demographics, these days they target anyone or the lowest/dumbest end of the pool stagnating gameplay even more.

This is nothing new. I don't understand how you're failing to realize that. If there's a game that does well, it will draw in similar titles - some good and some bad. While the original dev may have been doing their own thing, others seek to reap the profits or enjoyed the game so much they wanted more of that and make it themselves.

It's no different now than during the 16-Bit era - do you know why there were so many platformers back then? It's because the most popular games on those systems were platformers (Mario and Sonic). Do you know why there are so many shooters these days? It's because the most popular games are shooters (Halo and whatnot).

It's a game of follow the leader.

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I'm getting annoyed with you, especially considering how you still haven't answered my questions; are there any modern games out there you actually like? If there isn't, then why do you keep playing them? And if this apparent crapfest is bothering you, then why don't you do something about it? Bitching about it online gets nothing accomplished.

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Not quite you had many more gamers who where devs and suits back then so you had more focus on the game as a game, these days you have a focus on brands and themes the game is nothing more than a film to be made as quickly as possible sold and forgotten.

Yes back then we had that mindless corporate greed running amuk but it didnt effect the end product with as much frequency as it dose now.

Oh I want to clearfiy my stance on FO3 I put 40 hours into it eating up every aspect I could of it, I found so much broken and under deved stuff I really was disheartened, I did the same with bioshock, tho the AI in FO3 is worth while it mainly lacks enough equipment to keep the game interesting while you explore it.
Also the level/skill cap is stupid all you have to do is make it so to go above 100/skill you have to spend 5 skill points, then 105+ you have to spend 10, 110+ you have to spend 20, levels past the cap marker double needed exp. And don;t get me started on vats it makes me cry..... They were simply to focused on DLC to do the game properly..... still the over all experance is worth money and since you can mod it thats worth even more, 30$ for FO3 is not a bad price even if it burns you after awhile...

As for likening new games...lets see Batman AA is worth 30$(to short and a bit shallow),Dark Messiah with its above average AI and revolutionary atemp at FP mellee combat is worth 40$, I put out 25$ for UT3 kinda annoyed it sucks so much but all in all worth it. Bioshock is barely worth 25$ IMO. Oh and if its over 20$ it it means I can bearly stand it if its over 30 it means I like it.I got Ninja gaiden black and it was good enough, Fear was worth 30$ I guess I should not go to far back.
I enjoyed what little I played of Brutal legend, res 1-2 was ok but only worth 15-20, Halo ep 3 sucks, Uncahrted was nice worth 25$ if I had a PS3,Metroid prime 3 was a bit weak, I have mixed feelings about what they are doing with the new one..

Most of the other newer games I tried just were flash and no substance, I think once I am done with overhauling my room I will get a game fly sub scrip and try harder to find the modern gems but they are just so few and far between.

 

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forgot to add dead spcae is well worth 30.

 

 

 


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"Bitching about it online gets nothing accomplished."

And yet here you are bitching about him bitching. Very post-modern of you.

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I don't recall myself "bitching about him bitching", I'm merely pointing out the flaws in his statements and attempting to convince him otherwise. I doubt it'll work (this Zip we're talking about here), but it worth a try.

With that said, hasn't it been established that you no longer hold credibility in this discussion? Run along, n00b.

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It's also been established I couldn't care less if someone thinks I have credibility or not. Keep trying kid.

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ZippyDSMleeAnd I still spent 200$ in the last month on steam/GOG stuff sales get me nearly every time ><12/19/2014 - 10:55am
ZippyDSMleeMaskedPixelante:And this is why I'm a one legged bandit.12/19/2014 - 10:51am
ZippyDSMleeE. Zachary Knight: I buy what I can as long as I can get cracks for it...then again it I could have gotton Lords of the Fallen for 30 with DLC I would have ><12/19/2014 - 10:50am
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/12/19/marvel-vs-capcom-origins-leaving-online-storefronts-soon/ Speaking of "last chance to buy", Marvel vs. Capcom Origins is getting delisted from all major storefronts. Behold the wonders of the all digital future.12/19/2014 - 9:59am
MaskedPixelanteSeriously, the so-called "Last Chance" sale was up to 80% off, while this one time only return sale goes for a flat 85% off with a 90% off upgrade if you buy the whole catalogue.12/19/2014 - 9:37am
E. Zachary KnightInfophile, Tha is why I buy only DRM-free games.12/19/2014 - 9:37am
MaskedPixelanteNordic is back on GOG for one weekend only. And at 85% off no less, which is kind of a slap in the face to people who paid more during the "NORDIC IS LEAVING FOREVER BUY NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE" sale, but whatever...12/19/2014 - 9:28am
InfophileRe PHX's link: This is one of the reasons the digital revolution isn't all it's cracked up to be. There's also the flip side where Sony can block access to games you've bought if they ban your account for unrelated reasons. All power is theirs.12/19/2014 - 8:52am
MaskedPixelantehttp://uplay.ubi.com/#!/en-US/events/uplay-15-days You can win FREE GAMES FOR A YEAR! Unfortunately, they're Ubisoft games.12/18/2014 - 6:29pm
Papa MidnightAh, so it was downtime. I've been seeing post appear in my RSS feed, but I was unable to access GamePolitics today across several ISPs.12/18/2014 - 6:06pm
james_fudgeSorry for the downtime today, folks.12/18/2014 - 5:54pm
PHX Corphttp://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/801575-sony-refuses-offer-refund-playstation-game-fraudulently-purchased-hacker Sony Refuses to Offer Refund for PlayStation Game Fraudulently Purchased by Hacker12/18/2014 - 1:43pm
NeenekoMakes sense to me, and sounds kinda cool. One cool thing about Minecraft is the meta game, you can implement other game types within its mechanics. There are servers out there with plots, an episodic single player one sound kinda cool12/18/2014 - 11:07am
MaskedPixelantehttps://mojang.com/announcing-minecraft-story-mode/ Umm... what?12/18/2014 - 10:24am
NeenekoThat would make sense. Theaters probably can not afford the liability worry or a drop in ticket sales from worried people. Sony on the other hand can take a massive writeoff, and might even be able to bypass distribution contracts for greater profit.12/18/2014 - 10:03am
ConsterNeeneko: I thought they cancelled it because the major cinema franchises were too scared of terrorist attacks to show the film?12/18/2014 - 9:55am
Neeneko@Wonderkarp - there is still a lot of debate regarding if the movie was a motive or not. Unnamed officials say yes, the timeline says no.12/18/2014 - 9:10am
NeenekoSomething does not smell right though, Sony is no stranger to being hacked, so why cancel this film? For that matter, they are still not giving in to hacker's original demands as far as I know.12/18/2014 - 9:06am
PHX Corp@prh99 Not to mention the Dangerous Precedent that sony's hacking scandal just set http://mashable.com/2014/12/17/sony-hackers-precedent/12/18/2014 - 8:25am
Matthew WilsonI hope its released to netflix or amazon12/18/2014 - 12:11am
 

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