Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

November 5, 2009 -

Venezuela’s parliament has approved a law that lumps in toy weapons with videogames and bans the import, production or sale of both groups of items within the country.

The law was approved late last week and will go into effect within three months, reports Russian news agency Ria Novosti. The law features strict penalties of up to three to five years of incarceration for each offense. Previous reports also claimed that campaigns would be launched to warn about the dangers of videogames and that Venezuela’s consumer protection society would have full decision making abilities over what games to ban.

On BoingBoing, a 26-year old Venezuelan gamer named Guido Núñez-Mujica has penned an article detailing his distaste for the new law, even in the face of government harassment that could emerge from his public denouncement.

A few excerpts:

This law makes selling video games to anybody actually worse than giving real guns or cigarettes to a minor, or even forcing him or her to work, as you get less jail time and lower fines if you do any of those things.

These games are a cherished part of my life, they helped to shape my young mind, they gave me challenges and vastly improved my English, opening the door to a whole new world of literature, music and people from all around the world. Now, thanks to the tiny horizons of the cast of morons who govern me, thanks to the stupidity and ham-fisted authoritarianism of the local authorities, so beloved of so many liberals, my 7 year old brother's chances to do the same could be greatly impacted.

But I'd rather go to jail than betray the gamer culture, partially responsible for making me the person I am today.


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Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

This is so ridiculious????

 

Never underestimate the power of idiots in large amounts.

Never underestimate the power of idiots in large amounts.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

And people wonder why the us calls him all the things we call him.

Douchebag. Hope you have a revolt in your country and get tossed out.


Should stuff you in a box and send you to siberia.

 

 

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"Now, thanks to the tiny horizons of the cast of morons who govern me, thanks to the stupidity and ham-fisted authoritarianism of the local authorities, so beloved of so many liberals"

PWNED!!!

Just kidding but I love that part in the article.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

chavito el pendejito

since i am from colombia and i've seen who he supports (getting money from narcos and stuff) a have a great distaste in my mouth every time he opens his. He looks like a frog too.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Better jail every one of the Venezuelan poitical officials with a cellphone as most cellphones certainly have a game embedded on them at piont of sale. In fact, they had better start jailing all salespeople selling cellphones as they are most certainly purveyors of game filth.

Wow Venezuela, just wow.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

I like the excerpt of what the guy said. It does sound like Venezuela would be banning all games. Plus does that mean that even a game that has like a little blood in it would be banned?

 

 

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Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

[quote]This law makes selling video games to anybody actually worse than giving real guns or cigarettes to a minor, or even forcing him or her to work, as you get less jail time and lower fines if you do any of those things.[/quote]

Assuming this is true I [b]seriously[/b] question the intellect of the Venezuelan government.


Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Haha, google, "Hugo Chavez".

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

More like "Google 'HTML formatting'", amirite?

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Two word. Torrents. Enjoy.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Careful there, don't want a military platoon kicking down his door for plotting against his government.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

I feel your pain.

If things go bad in my country, I will move out of Australia.

Playing videogames is worse than playing with a toy gun?

Now THAT is really screwed up.

If you can't change your country, move out of there as soon as you can.

You may lose your family and friends who don't have emails, but you are able to still be who you want to be.

 

Move to Canada, that is my advice.

 

TBoneTony

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Do venezuelans realize that Hugo is a dictator?

 

"One would think that after ten years of Socialist government focused on the poor and against the evil rich, the fiercely egalitarian Venezuelan MPs would have found the time to increase the taxes of the hated rich to the same level of such boring, bland, flavorless, countries as Finland, New Zealand, Sweden or Canada."

my contry may be boring, bland and flavorless but at least you wont get killed and robbed when crossing the street.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Be careful what you say about Hugo.  The man is beloved by most of the Left in the US. 

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Since when are dictators elected to office by popular vote and kept in office constitutionally?

The idea that Hugo Chavez is a dictator is patently false and arises out of pure ignorance.  His government may be doing stupid stuff, but not because Chavez is a dictator - it's because governments of all stripes often do stupid stuff.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Are you defending that crazy fuck? Are you defending his taking of freedoms from people like the boy who just wants to play games like us?  Yes, he did some great political moves to make his bullshit "legal" or "constitutional" but please don't tell me you are coming to his defence.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

From wikipedia:

"The weak dictator has, for any social goal he/she has in mind, and for any political scenario, a course of action that would bring about the desired goal. For the weak dictator, it is usually not enough to "give their orders", rather he/she has to manipulate the political scene appropriately. This means that the weak dictator might actually be lurking in the shadows, working within a political setup that seems to be non-dictatorial. An example of such a figure is Lorenzo the Magnificent, who controlled Renaissance Florence."
 

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

I think he's using the official Venezualan political rhetoric to prove a point, the sentence may well be missing a couple of quotation marks and be intended as satire.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Heh, I'll be laughing when they're stuck scratching their heads over the spike in youth crime rates and the new black market come up.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

I love the fact that the whole idea is blatantly sold as 'taking the aggression out of our youth', as though being aggressive and standing up for your rights is unacceptable, though, in all honesty, it probably is in Venezuela, they aren't even trying to hide it as 'violence'...

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so is it all games or just the violent ones (its bad either way). if its all games than the ban is about as stupid as the one greece did  a few years ago but that was because the dumbass government could not tell a video game from a game for gambling.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

I was wondering this too.  The article here makes it sound like ALL VIDEO GAMES.  But, surely not.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Venezuela’s consumer protection society would have full decision making abilities over what games to ban

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Meaning they could do the work much like the ESRB or BBFC, or, more likely, just ban them all and call it a day.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

On BoingBoing, a 26-year old Venezuelan gamer named Guido Núñez-Mujica has penned an article detailing his distaste for the new law, even in the face of government harassment that could emerge from his public denouncement.

 

How long till the Venezuelan government and Chavez's order to arrest Mujica (and probably torture and execution for him) for criticizing the government's ban for video game?

 

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

So it's illegal to play tetris over there, oh dear, oh dear

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Calling it that is an insult to it. This isn;t socialism, it's totalitarianism.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

LOL!  You can't nationalize and control an economy without controlling the people.  You can't make sure that everyone takes home the same paycheck (regardless of work) without controlling the people.  Socialism REQUIRES totaliarianism in order to function.  Why do you think it took the Soviets and Mao in order to implement it?

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Dude lay off the kool aid, Socialism/Communism  even Capitalism can work well if the principals are kept to when you allow for too much greed and exploitation from a small proration of the populace you gain corruption and instability as a by product. Incapitalism you have to work to keep the middle class fat and happy at all costs in Socialism/Communism you HAVE to treat all members of society as equally as possible if the government makes its officials into nobles to farm fromsociety its due to greed(and fou capitalism) more than "Socialism/Communism".


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Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Wow I can see anti-socialist propoganda really does work.

 

Socialism != communism

Just like Capitalism != Facism

 

Honestly. Learn the differences before you decide to get all up in arms about it.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

I blame Fox News. They always say that free health care is socialist and USSR are socialists, so free health care is bad. Seriously, out of any community, why would anybody here believe anything Fox News says.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

Actually neither is responsible.  Venezuela is a constitutional democracy.  It is indeed a socialist state and is not a totalitarian dictatorship.  But that doesn't mean socialism is to blame.  Bad government is to blame.  After all, similar laws are being proposed in capitalist countries - does that mean capitalism is responsible?  Of course not.  Bad government can come in any form - capitalist, socialist, democracy, dictatorship or anything else.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

My bad for the blanket statement.

Still, if a government becomes worried that a video game will lead to them being overthrown, then they're likely a bad government and deserve a good tossing.

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

<Venezuelan Police Officer> Did you give that child a NERF gun?

<Venezuelan Citizen> I thought it was a real gun!  Honest!

Re: Venezuelan Game Ban Okayed, Gamer Reacts

only in Venezuela…

岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

 
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