TiVo Alert: Fox News to Tackle MW2

November 10, 2009 -

It was only a matter of time before Fox News got involved in the issue of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, and we have confirmation that they will tackle the game tomorrow morning during the Fox & Friends show.

The ECA, which operates GamePolitics, received an email from FOX News around 11 a.m. EST today asking to speak to an "expert gamer" about the controversies surrounding the game. The pertinent part of the email:

Hello,

I write to inquire about a possible interview tomorrow on Fox & Friends. We're the morning show of the Fox News Channel, and are planning on doing a segment on the new Xbox game, Modern Warfare 2. We're hoping to have a debate on the game, and would love to speak to an expert gamer on the controversies surrounding the game. The debate is for 6:50am tomorrow morning, on camera.

The email came to Jason Andersen, the ECA's director of PR. When he responded that the ECA might be interested but they needed more information, he did not receive an answer. So it appears that the ECA will not be the representative side of the games industry.

Hal Halpin, president of the ECA, said that he heard from other sources that FOX wanted to "discuss the ethics and morals that game developers employ when making decisions about what content/direction to employ when they're creating games."

GP: We all know what a pillar of integrity FOX News can be when it comes to covering video games, remembering in particular their coverage of the alien sex simulator that was Mass Effect. Cooper Lawrence, an author used by FOX to bash Mass Effect, later recanted her comments saying:

"Before the show I had asked somebody about what they had heard, and they had said it's like pornography. But it's not like pornography. I've seen episodes of Lost that are more sexually explicit."

So it will be interesting to see how they handle this, seeing as there is already a lot of misinformation about the Modern Warfare 2 terrorist sequence in the mainstream press. Hopefully, whoever responds for "the gamer" will be able to hold their own as well as Geoff Keighley did against Cooper Lawrence.

Watch the episode tomorrow at 6:50 a.m. and tell us what you think.

Update: For a cartoonist's take on the Fox News coverage, check out Crispy Gamer's Backward Compatible.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE-nOCy7FfE

I wish they got Adam Sessler instead. That guy didn't look prepare at all.

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In fairness, Jim was a decent guy. He didn't say anything outragous. He actually complemented the game. It's the host who is asking questions and making statements that are implying the game as bad. He kept trying to give Jim questions that would lead to denouncing the game, which Jim never did.

"Fox Host: You bring a violent game into a house with an 8 year old, nothing to stop that kid from playing it and becoming a terrorist...on a video game."..... except for the parents. Or does Fox think that parents should hold no responsiblity.

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

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"Fox Host: You bring a violent game into a house with an 8 year old, nothing to stop that kid from playing it and becoming a terrorist...on a video game."

Yes nothing to stop them...aside from, you know, parents!!!

"Fox Host: I'll give you the final world Jon"

...before I give the final word that ignores everything that you just said.

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Just thought I'd point out that the link in the update is unclickable GP.

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Fixed. Not sure why it wasn't working. I cut and paste exactly what was in there before and now it works.

Thanks for pointing it out.

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"Fox News: We report AND decide"

Interestign to see Yellow Journalism is still rampant. Not nice or cool, but, interesting.

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They would not allow that guy to say that your not a terrorist and when he was able to say that you were under cover they just laughed it off and just continued with the talk of playing a terrorist.

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Oh my fucking God enough with the MW2 news!

 

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I see this as more mainstream media covering video games than MW2 news. FOX covering any video game topic would have been here, whether MW2 or not.

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Kotaku has a synopsis

http://kotaku.com/5402067/modern-warfare-2-on-fox--friends

Why is it that everyone who is taking up the "pro games" position in the media is ill-equipped to get the point across and too often looks like an idiot?

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Is that a synopsis of the news about it, or the actual show itself (its blocked for me at work right now)? I would never want to watch Fox News, but I am curious as to what they said, and subsequently laugh at their idiocy.

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From the site:
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This morning, Fox brought its "fair and balanced" reporting to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. The headline? "A game that lets you play as a terrorist?"

That was followed with this pre-commercial quip: "Is the game going too far? We're going to have a fair and balance debate to find out."

Jon Christensen of website Slash Gamer and Common Sense media CEO Jim Steyer discussed the issue with the Fox host. Reader Ryan transcribed the conversation from his television set. It follows:

Fox Host: Jim, you got some problems with this game?

Jim: It's mainly for adults and a well made game, but there's no doubt there's a link between violent video games and kids.

Fox Host: Jon, you essentially get to be a terrorist and kill people and it's very realistic.

Jon: You're not actually a terrorist. You're a CIA undercover agent. You are infiltrating a terrorist organization and the game specifically says, when you go into, uh when you work with this terrorist organization. You are um... (Jon loses his train of thought, awkward moment) You are a a a uh a a a CIA operative. (chuckles) I'm sorry.

Fox Host: Jim at what age is this game appropriate or is it ever appropriate?

Jim: The main issue with violent video games, including very well made made games like COD. There's no question there's correlation between violent games and kids blah blah*. It's up to the parent to decide whether they buy the game for their son or daughter blah blah*. You need to use common sense.
*blah blah blah added by reader Ryan

Fox Host: I'll give you the final world Jon

Jon: Kids can definitely pick up the game. If parents buy it for them. I have a buddy who's a manager of a store. Little kids came in to buy the game and he asked if they were over 17. They said no, so he didn't sell them the game. Retailers are doing a good job. It's been proven time and time again.

Fox Host: You bring a violent game into a house with an 8 year old, nothing to stop that kid from playing it and becoming a terrorist...on a video game.

Jon: That's ridiculous! You're not a terrorist! It's pixelated violence! You're not a terrorist!

Fox Host: It's violence.

Jon: (closing his eyes) It's not real. It's not real.

Fox Host: Jon and Jim. The debate goes on.

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Presuming this isn't some satirical take on what it may be like. The host was just told the player is an undercover CIA agent, but "...[there's] nothing to stop that kid from playing it and becoming a terrorist...on a video game."

Sigh. Not as bad as their take on Mass Effect, indeed, but another example of piss poor journalism.

Edit: "Fox and Friends?" What the hell sort of name is that for a news segment? I'd expect it of a purple dinosaur character, not an international news broadcast!

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Thanks dude. This is very helpful!

A shame though about the article.

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Fox Host: You bring a violent game into a house with an 8 year old, nothing to stop that kid from playing it and becoming a terrorist...on a video game.

Jon: That's ridiculous! You're not a terrorist! It's pixelated violence! You're not a terrorist!

Fox Host: It's violence.

Some thing tells me that Fox News are not that smart and doesn't want to accept what they are saying.  the host sounds like he's not listening.  I'm laughing at that.  I wonder how long till CNN's Rick Sanchez says Fox News are liar and call the FOX and friend's host a dumbass for not listening to the guy?
 

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No, they're smart.  They're hammering home THEIR point and they get a person on to "interview" and "debate" in a segment who was clearly ill-prepared and in over his head.  It's easier to make a really stupid point to your audience when the person you're "debating" with has little to no experience in public relations, debate, or public speaking.  When that camera light goes red, it becomes much harder to stay focused, and Fox News (or any network on this type of show) will take advantage of that lack of experience to make the counterargument look bad.

For example: when Fox News makes a point that you could bring the game in to your home and any kid could play it, why not mention that "all modern consoles have parental controls or locks on them?"  With that, you mention that the decision on what games kids play are left in the hands of parents, where they should be.  And if they cut you off, you keep talking anyway.  (Or better yet, you don't go on these ambush shows in the first place -- guys like Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck are professional douchebags and are very good at making people who don't agree with them look bad.)

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It's their dopey morning show where they try to be both funny at times and do hard-hitting "news" at others.  It's been a long time since I've seen that show, so I'm not sure if the hosts are still the same, but one of them could be a real douchbag at times (though not even close to the level of Glenn Beck douchebaggery).

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I've been sort of engrossed in something else for a while, and this whole "controversy" thing flew right over my head until I heard BBC in my car talking about terrorists levels in the game.  I have no idea what's going on here.

Could someone who isn't a clueless mainstream reporter explain what has everyone riled up?  Like, what is this terrorist thing, and in what context it is to the rest of the game, etc?

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My understanding is that you play a level as an undercover agent during a terrorist hostage situation. And during this situation, your evil cohorts are shooting civilians, and you have the option to as well. But you can choose not to shoot them, or skip the entire scene regardless, so even if you're FORCED to play a game unwillingly, you still wouldn't be forced to shoot any civilians.

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And with that, all the money spent on the title's marketing was wasted.

/b

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I think FPS_Doug would make a perfect candidate as the "Expert Gamer".

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Re: TiVo Alert: Fox News to Tackle MW2

Oh well, just like GTA IV, this game is going to sell exceptionally well with or without controversy so it's not like it will accomplish much *cue MC Hammer can't touch this*

Why is it that certain conservatives need a constant supply of outrage, even if it's completely overblown?

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 I think its more like certain people require outrage, and the conservatives are just the ones we disagree with.

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They're going to link the Fort Hood shooting with the MW2 terrorist scene. 

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Which will be neatly countered by the fact that game wasn't out then. Who's going to argue that crazies can be set off by blurry videos of a video game?

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But countered by who? Fox has a habbit of only inviting bobbleheads and shutting up anyone who disagrees with them.

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Faux News is going to lie again? Ho-hum.

Not watching(Usually watching Mike & Mike on ESPN2).

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So they're going to try to confirm all the fears about it.

Sounds like them.

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inb4 terroristbox

you personally execute civilians by pointing a pistol at their foreheads and pulling the trigger

tying bombs to people and sending thme off to the safety of the police only to detonate the bomb and kill them and police officers..

and that you're able to kill children

and this takes place in either NYC or Washington D.C. and that you're Muslim Terrorists.

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sigh....I absolutely approve of the way Republicans run the economy, yet I can't stand their "please think of the children" bullshitting.

I'M IN DESPAIR!!!

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Well, both the left-wing and the right-wing trump the whole "please think of the children" and "protect the children" bullshit and like to shit all over the First Amendment anyways so they both suck.

What's funny is that there is nothing in these games that is harmful to children to being with as the evidence claiming so is nothing more then extremely weak, inconsistant, flawed and incredibly biased psuedoscientific bullshit. Inappropriate and unsuitable, possibly depending on the child, their age and maturity but nothing harmful unless you consider a few sleepless nights from seeing it to be considered psychological harm.

 "No law means no law" - Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black on the First Amendment

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Its pathetic that the Republicans have become the defacto defenders of a free economy and personal economic freedom.  And this may just be because the Democrats have positioned themselves as purveyors of the government-owned economy and the Republicans naturally have to oppose them.

In politics, I hate having to choose between my economic freedoms and supporting Conservative idiocy like Pro-Life, Censorship, Creationism, and Christianity  VS  my social freedoms and supporting Liberal lidocy like Equal Outcome (regardless of work ethic or job), Terrorist Apoligizing, Racism (Liberalism is the new White Man's Burdeon), Sexism (Radical Feminism), and the Victim Culture.

Republicans think freedom starts and ends with money and guns, and Democrats think freedom starts and ends with drugs and anal sex.

Why can't we have a political movement founded on the best parts of Conservativism and Liberalism that pushes both Social Freedom AND Economic Freedom?  Libertarianism seems to swing too far right to be the answer.

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Eh, still, might as well join the Libertarian's until we get rid of the bullshit that is the Republican and Democrat corruption machine. Once the government is smaller and we have more rights, then you can decide whether or not you want to stick with the Libertarians or just become semi-moderate-ish. ^^

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I know what you mean. I am conservative when it comes to the economy (capitalism forever!) and I am pro-life, yet I disapprove of the death penalty, torture, and Glenn Beck. However, to be fair, the democrats attack videogames as well. For example, Jack Thompson has been on other news stations such as CBS and CNN.

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I am pro choice,IE we as a modern society have the right to give individuals free reign over their own life(IE if you can own a gun you can have an abortion, though out of the wound they(children) have alot more rights they just share them with their parents for the most part)  and when you become worthless to society by means of criminal activity that involves the rape,torture or death of others your life loses its right to live amongst society. I am conservative when it comes to the economy but without hard reglution and oversight capitalism is nothing but anarchy.


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I guess that makes me feel a little better.  There are indeed christian fundies on both sides...republicans just seem to have more of them :/

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I wonder if Jack Thompson will show up. That would be either really good or really bad, depending on factors such as if they mentioned his disbarrment and if he acts as rude as he usually does.

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

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I don´t think so. But I´m sure he will to try contact FOX NEWS for this, but they will ignore him. Then, he will release 13 consecutive news letters (spam) bitching about how Fox News, Nintendo and Colgate are against him.

Then, we will receive lulz.

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Shoulda just replied to them with 6 words:

"Mass Effect.  Cooper Lawrence.  'Nuff said."

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Fox News is a bias joke of a company. I really don’t know what else to say.

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I like the fact that they are afraid of Geoff.

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Oh boy. I really wish that I could wake up at 6 in the morning to see this, it sounds like it'll be amazing (or incredibly disappointing, which will at the least be amusing).

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Re: TiVo Alert: Fox News to Tackle MW2

 Sending a request on such short notice? I bet they're after a no-show or no response so they can say "the representatives of the gaming industry refused to comment on these controversial issues."

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This'll be worth a few yuks.

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This is not going to be good... 

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The only people who watch Fox News and take it with a grain of salt are brainwashed reactionaries who probably hate videogames already anyway.


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