It appears that anti-health care reformers are rewarding Facebook gamers with virtual currency for participation in a letter writing campaign to Congress featuring the message that government-run health care is not the answer.
A story on Business Insider details the alleged practice, which is being done at the behest of GetHealthReformRight.org, a website backed by a series of insurance brokers and underwriters, including the BlueCross BlueShield Association, the National Association of Health Underwriters and the America’s Health Insurance Plans. The National Retail Association is also listed.
The group states that they “are concerned about federal legislation that would create new government bureaucracies that would unravel the workplace healthcare system.”
It seems that the campaign is offered on Facebook under the guise of a quiz, which participants are required to take in order to receive virtual currency to use in a Facebook game. Upon completion of the quiz, and after entering personal information, an email is sent to Congress with the message, “As the Senate considers healthcare reform, I’m writing to express my strong opposition to a government-run health plan. I am concerned a new government plan would cause me to lose the employer coverage I have today.”
The growing proliferation of fake grass-roots campaigns has resulted in a name being spawned for the practice—astroturfing.
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This is quite sleazy if true, but the headline for this post is grossly dishonest. Calling opposition to greater government involvement in medicine "anti-health care" is the same sort of sophistry used by conservatives who accused everyone who opposed the invasion of Iraq of being "pro-terrorist" or hostile to American security.
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In before people complain about this site's liberal bias because they didn't post a story about Acorn giving out virtual currency for letters.
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Too obvious? In my particular view, I just didn't care. The reason this one's newsworthy is because people might actually USE IT! <burn>
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"A story on Business Insider details the alleged practice, which is being done at the behest of GetHealthReformRight.org, a website backed by a series of insurance brokers and underwriters, including the BlueCross BlueShield Association, the National Association of Health Underwriters and the America’s Health Insurance Plans."
This is basically EXACTLY why we can't trust Opponents of Health Care Reform. The ultimate legal crooks, health insurance companies, are the most vocal opponents to the Health Care Effort being taken on by the Obama Administration. I think that the fact that BORDERLINE CRIMINALS, who literally CONDEMN PEOPLE TO DEATH to make a profit, are the most vocal against the changes should indicate that Obama's Health Plan is doing something right.
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"The ultimate legal crooks, health insurance companies, are the most vocal opponents to the Health Care Effort being taken on by the Obama Administration."
This is utter rot, and only demonstrates how little actual knowledge you have of this. The major companies in inusrance and pharmaceuticals openly support Obama's reforms, and have spent millions supporting organizations and advertising in favor of it. Their clashes with the reformers are merely quibbling over details of how the loot gets distributed.
Consider the actual content of the legislation being proposed. One of the main ideas being pushed forward by "reformers" is forcing everyone to buy health insurance whether they want it or not. Do you think the insurance companies oppose the idea of forcing everyone to buy their product? The price they'll pay in return is greater government control over how they run their operations, but if it means government-guaranteed profits why should they care?
The idea that there is a cabal of insurance companies blocking "reform" is a lie, propagated so that politicians in bed with big business can pretend to be champions of the people. Governments are controlled by the wealthy and powerful. If you're really concerned about the power of business giants like the insurance companies, the last thing you should be advocating is putting an even bigger club in their hands.
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Maybe you have a point, but you're forgetting the fact that the Federal Government has no Constitutional right to require people to purchase ANYTHING, much less health care. All they have the right to do is regulate taxes and regulate the sale of goods and services across state lines. Making someone purchase something is not taxing them, as the IRS is not involved in any way, which would be required by law. Also, it isn't governed under the Commerce Clause, regulating interstate commerce, as A) people aren't buying anything to be regulated if they don't buy health insurance, and B) none of the health care proposals have suggested allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines, thereby making the sales regulated by the Commerce clause. Therefore, unless Congress and the President remove wording making it a crime not to own health care, or get a Constitutional Amendment passed making health care a right in this country instead of a privilege, the law is unconstitutional.
Funny thing is, a news reporter asked this of Nancy Pelosi, and her only response was, "are you kidding?"
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Even ignoring some of generalizations, just because some crooked people oppose something doesn't mean it's right.
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You're a fool. Seeing this as an indicator that government-run healthcare is "doing something right," is idiotic. Take you marxist ideals and move to Cuba. There is no Constitutional authority that gives the Federal government the power they are legislating for themselves in these bills.
As for the details of this practice, I find them to be exceptionally misleading and wrong. With that said, I think that Obama's support polls being less than 50% and a majority of Americans being against the government option (note how I said government option and not health reform), speaks much more to the issue. We all want health reform and lower costs, but there are better ways of achieving that using free-market principles rather than just handing all the power to the Federal government and letting politicians decide who lives and dies.
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Free-Market principles? I am really not comfortable with laxing the regulations on these corporate jackals more than they already are. There has to be a better option than handing all the power to corporations and letting them decide to lives and dies.
Also, why is it whenever a conservative comes up with a solution to a problem that solution has a "side-effect" of lining the pockets of some Forbes douche.
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Why is it that whenever a liberal comes up with a solution to a problem that solution has a "side-effect" of lining the pockets of some Daily KOS hero?
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Lesser of two evils.
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Nope. Not buying it. If it ain't good for the goose, it ain't good for the gander. If you got a problem with one side doing it, you can't support the other. That's what I think is funny about liberals getting all upset about people protesting Obama and his friends. For eight years, all Liberals did was protest Bush and his friends, citing free speech. Now, they're in power, and the people protesting are quasi-criminals. Sorry, doesn't work that way.
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The point remains that health care is much to important to remain in the hands of companies. Let them sell Nike shoes and McDonalds Big Macs. But should we put our lives in the hands of a system which subsists off of greed? Hell no. I say tear down Blue Cross, Blue Shield and the rest of them.
And I don't think you are a quasi-criminal. You can say whatever you want. But that doesn't change the fact that I think you are a part of the Death Panel that calls themselves teabaggers.
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Here's the bottom line. The U.S. Constitution, which is the document determines the powers of the U.S. Government (in case you didn't know) doesn't give Congress the authority to do some of the things they want to do in this bill.
For example, there is a mandate in the bill that REQUIRES Americans to purchase Federally approved health insurance or face criminal penalty. What's the big deal you ask? Well, where in The Constitution does it give the Federal government the right to TELL you that you HAVE to purchase a commodity (in this case health insurance) with the money you earned for yourself? Where does it say they can tell you what you can and cannot buy with your own money?
Absolutely nowhere. It isn't there because the Founders understood the problems of a large, overreaching Federal government.
You hate companies and free-market principals? You're a marxist and a typical, jealous liberal. You believe it is fair for the Federal government to sieze wealth that someone else created, and give it to you just so long as you don't have to pay. It is this sick, entitlement ideology that ruins countries, creates more poverity, and tyrannical rule. You won't be satisfied until everything is provided to you by the Federal government, until every molecule of CO2, oxygen, and water is regulated by the Federal government to "protect the environment," and until you have absolutely no liberty left.
Health care is not a right. It is earned, like everything else SHOULD be. It is the result of an individual's labor and determination to better themselves.
Death panels... haha, you think the insurance companies are bad? Wait until people like Nancy Pelosi and other government beauracrats are sitting down, assigning you life a number value, and putting you in health care rationing lines.
Sorry, Erik, it looks like you had a heart condition at birth, that knocks you down a few points on the list. That operation you wanted, that you actually have the money to pay for anyway, yeah, you can't have it because there are people with a higher number than you, and they need it first. What, you need it within a month or you may die from complications? Well... we are very sorry to hear that. Have some aspirin.
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"For example, there is a mandate in the bill that REQUIRES Americans to purchase Federally approved health insurance or face criminal penalty. What's the big deal you ask? Well, where in The Constitution does it give the Federal government the right to TELL you that you HAVE to purchase a commodity (in this case health insurance) with the money you earned for yourself? Where does it say they can tell you what you can and cannot buy with your own money?"
Then it needs to be made optional. But beyond that my money seems to be used to invade a lot of countries and drag us down further, despite my wants.
"You hate companies and free-market principals? You're a marxist and a typical, jealous liberal. "
And you are a capitalist. Just because I don't want these companies to grind us beneath their heels and exert so much power in our lives I'm jealous? Really now? I suppose instead you suggest to be free of my jealousy I bend over and present my sphincter to the Fortune 500 then?
"You won't be satisfied until everything is provided to you by the Federal government, until every molecule of CO2, oxygen, and water is regulated by the Federal government to "protect the environment," and until you have absolutely no liberty left."
And you will not be satisfied until the Coca-Cola company has removed all oxygen from the planet and sells it back to people at a phenomenal cost. If you are poor? Well you are called a marxist, a suffocating marxist.
"Health care is not a right. It is earned, like everything else SHOULD be. It is the result of an individual's labor and determination to better themselves."
So in other words if you are poor, go choke to death in a gutter somewhere right? Yeah, it seems I was spot on in the above.
"Death panels... haha, you think the insurance companies are bad? Wait until people like Nancy Pelosi and other government beauracrats are sitting down, assigning you life a number value, and putting you in health care rationing lines."
You are the one saying that poor people should choke and die. So you have no room to speak.
"Sorry, Erik, it looks like you had a heart condition at birth, that knocks you down a few points on the list. That operation you wanted, that you actually have the money to pay for anyway, yeah, you can't have it because there are people with a higher number than you, and they need it first. What, you need it within a month or you may die from complications? Well... we are very sorry to hear that. Have some aspirin."
You have cancer? No problem, your form is pretty treatable. Just give us the name of your Fortune 500 number and we will get in touch with your secretary to get your Swiss bank account information. Whats that? You are a waiter? I'm sorry, your fucked. Go die in a gutter.
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Try reading The Constitution, kid. You know what it doesn't say? That the Federal government has the power to tax you and I for the purpose of supplying free health insurance coverage for everyone. You know what it DOES say? That one of the Federal government's largest responsibilities, aside from establishing a currency, regulation interstate commerce, and creating infrastructure, is to maintain our armies and provide for the defense of this country. So whether or not you, personally, support this was is irrelevant. The fact is that the way the Federal government appropriates money and spends it on this was is... and say this with me now, Constitutional.
All I hear is some paranoid talk about Fortune 500s grinding you under their heels. Wake up, drone. You know why the United States has succeeded in so many areas where other countries are only starting to? You think this country owes its success to the Federal government? Was your iPod engineered by Congress? How about the computer your using to type on? The car you drive? No, the free market created those technologies you use today. People, coming together unders the banner of hard work. Take me, for example. I work at a company and am getting paid less than what most would consider a middle-class salary. I get my health insurance through my employer and I must say, it is VERY affordable. I'm not even middle class and I don't see any Fortune 500 heels coming to grind me into the dirst. And, guess what? Most Americans live the same way. These Fortune 500 heels are about as substantial as UFO sightings.
I'm not even sure what to say about your little Coca-Cola tirade. Except, come back to reality please. The Federal government regulates things through legislation, which is the creation of laws. Now, and try to keep up, laws are dangerous because they inherently come with consequences for violating them. Last time I checked, private companies DO NOT create and enforce laws. Better figure out where the real danger could come from, before it's too late.
No, if you are poor, then find a job and try to better yourself. This country already provides a ton of support programs for the poor. There is help out there, and it is accessible. Also, I want to differeniate between the poor who are disabled and cannot help themselves and those that are just plain losers, slackers, and drains on our economy. Those who desperately need help, who cannot care for themselves, need our support. With that said, they are in the minority, and are not worth destroying the entire health insurance industry. There are better ways of taking care of those who cannot do so themselves, ways that DO NOT involve handing the power over to the Federal government.
All your scenarios are ridiculous and not even worth debating. You make it sound as if this is happening to 99% of Americans every day. Wake the fuck up. These are not good reasons to let the Federal government dictate who gets care and who doesn't. These are not good reasons to pass a bill that will increase our National debt into the trillions. These are not good reasons to create huge bureaucracies that cannot be undone. These are not good reasons to surrender more of your personal freedoms.
This country was founded on the principles of hard and honest work, and it should be run that way.
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Wow, Ignorant Conservative rant not withstanding...
"Health care is not a right."
UNEQUIVOCALLY FALSE! According to the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights, of which the United States is a Signatory, Quality, Affordable healthcare for EVERYBODY is a human right.
The fact that you think Healthcare is earned, rather than a right, is a sign of EVERYTHING that's wrong with the Conservative line of thinking. It amazes me that the same line of people who complain that the government should make abortion illegal because "a life is a life" finds it just as easy to say that the lives of those who can't afford the LUDICROUS costs for health care in this country aren't as important as the lives of those who can. The fact that you think that sickens me.
That being said, everything else you said in your rant is like reading a transcript of the Glen Beck Show.. You are truly Clueless when it comes to what's actually happening in the government. It would be hilarious, if it was just you that was so ignorant, but the fact that you, and millions of others are SO misinformed, SO ignorant, and most importantly, SO clueless about what's happening is equal parts saddening and frightening.
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You seem to be mistaking "Quality, Affordable healthcare for everybody," with "free, tax subsidized, government-run healthcare for everybody."
Right now, healthcare in the United States is very affordable, if you have a job. And, if you think that having a job is a stupid requirement for getting health insurance, then you are a drone. I have a basic job that pays what most would consider to be less than minimum wage, but I get health insurance provided through my employer and it is very affordable. And, despite what you may think, a majority of Americans have the same. That sounds like it meets the UN's declaration to me.
You think that earning and working hard is a "sign of everything that's wrong." I suppose you support laziness and slackassery? Also, I think you're confusing Republicans with Conservatives, a typical Liberal mistake, but I forgive you. You see, I don't believe the Federal government has the power to make abortion legal or illegal.
In fact, I'm pretty sure that any powers not given to the Federal government via The Constitution fall on the States and the people, try looking it up sometime. And, that's why I'm perfectly fine with State governments deciding whether abortion is legal or illegal within those borders. What I DO NOT believe in is Federal taxes going to fund abortions. You want to abort the child you don't want? Pay for it yourself. Seems fair to me.
You think that because I find it wrong for the Federal government to take my, and your, private property, which includes more than real estate by the way, and use it in ways not allowed by the U.S. Constitution, that I don't care about the poor? I want those without healthcare to be able to afford it. I want them to get jobs and support themselves, and not just suckle on the tit of the Federal government their entire lives. I want to see them prosper and earn their own wealth, raise a family, and send them to college. However, I don't think destroying the health insurance industry, creating massive Federal government bureaucracies funded by American taxpayers, increasing our National debt with wreckless government spending, and then passing the trillion dollar bill on to future generations (our children and their children) is a good way of doing it.
This is why Conservatives support health reform, but not a government-run option. Why won't the Federal government allow us to purchase health insurance across State lines, thus increasing competition and driving down the cost? Why won't they issue TORT reform so that doctors are protected from medical malpractice lawsuits that require high legal fees, which also increases the cost of our health insurance? And, lastly, if the government-run option is going to be so great for the American people, why won't the very same politicians trying to force it on us and make us pay for it with taxes allow an amendment stating that they would also enter into the program?
As for calling me ignorant, look in the mirror. You say I'm misinformed, but fail to make any case supporting you accusation. I refer to the U.S. Constitution, and you just say I'm clueless. Oh, and by the way, I don't even like Glenn Beck, so STFU about that crap. It just makes you look even more juvenile.
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"The point remains that health care is much to important to remain in the hands of companies."
The fact that something is important is a poor argument for having the government do it. Food is even more important than health care, but that's not a good reason for the government to own all the farms or grocery stores.
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Seriously, what is it with you European haters? Why are you guys even bothering asking us for help in Afghanistan if you despise the way our countries work and call us communists for it all the time? Do you guys even care? If you think like this, just get the fuck out of the rest of the world and stick to your own borders, don't pretend we're allies yet find it horrible if your country were to do anything we did long ago.
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Maybe it's because we've helped free you from Fascism and you throw us under the rug? I don't know...
Also, I thought Cuba was off the coast of Florida, not Europe....or is that because I went to public school?
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It's all the yelling of marxism, socialism and communism, labelling it all pure evil, when we have systems in place that go beyond what Obama wants. If his ideas are already evil, then what are we? Your country wants our help in Afghanistan, yet your people denounce so much of what we are, it makes me wonder why you guys even pretend we're supposed to be on the same side.
Throw you under the rug? How? You mean those wars you guys started that our soldiers died for during the past few years? That we were supposed to retreat from ages ago, since the mess should have been taken care of long ago? Where we went beyond what was promised? And besides, your country only interfered and 'helped' free us from Facism because it had its own benefits to fight for. Nobody cared about Europe until the war hit home. The soldiers might have thought it was for the greater good, but it only was about the USA.
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To continue what Alex was saying, we were supplying Britain and Canada weapons, tanks and ships for two years before we got involved. We were selling weapons and armor to Europe as a vastly discounted rate. Also, I don't know if you know this, but the only person in this country who wanted to stay out of fighting was our President, who wanted to remain neutral. Your "nobody cared" comment shows how absolutely unappreciative Europeans are of the United States. Which is funny, because Germany would have taken France in WW1 without us, too.
Also, if you want to compare body counts, lets compare body counts. America has always had the largest ground force in the Middle east in Iraq and Afghanistan, by no smaller than a 1.5:1 margin. America has always been on the front lines of any conflict as well. Whatever your body count was, ours was higher, and we didn't have our representatives in the UN decrying the wars in the first place. Also, it may not have even been a problem if France and Germany weren't being paid by Saddam Hussein under the table to help keep him in power.
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Understand this, please. We are from different countries. Your people have authored the course of your development and chosen governing system that we, Americans as a people, oppose by a majority. WE oppose those systems being imposed on us, what you do in your country and how your government is run doesn't matter to the average American. We couldn't give a shit. Sure, we may think your system is the wrong one, a bad one, an "evil," one, but as long as your leaders aren't a threat to peace--the way North Korea is, for example--then there is no pretending we are on the same side, we simply are.
Nobody forced your country to help fight in the war against terrorism. And, we didn't start the wars that are raging right now, get it right. They were started by the people who fly planes into building, detonate bombs in European subway systems, and behead civilians of other faiths.
Yes, we did fight in WWII because we were attacked first. However, that doesn't negate the fact that we freed you from Facism. But no, that also doesn't mean it was "only about the USA." Once the U.S. was attacked and entered into the war on the side of the Allies, it became much more than that. Once we were all allies against a threat to peace, it was about doing the right thing, about saving Europe from tyrannical rule.
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Actually, yes we did start the wars we are in now. At least one of them anyways. If you turn your televison on you might notice this little "skirmish" that is called Iraq. You know, the country that we invaded?
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Oh, you mean the country we said we'd invade if they didn't stop killing their own people? The country we invaded after warning them for nine months we were coming? The country we WOULDN'T have invaded if Hussein would have turned himself in for his crimes against humanity? That country? Okay, just making sure.
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No, the country we said we would invade if they didn't give us the weapons that they and the weapons inspectors never had. No WMDs = Justfication. The Bush/Conservative attempts at retroactive justification is great and all. If you think that we went in for altruistic reasons then you are more foolish than I thought. And if he was so terrible to his people then it is up to them to depose him, not us. If they can put up such a rigid defense against our soldiers for "saving" them, then I sure as hell think that they could have overthrown Saddam if they so wished.
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So, you think France should have deposed Hitler themselves, then? Because, as I recall, we went in there and deposed a dictator because they couldn't do it themselves. That would fall under your "if he's so terrible his own people should have stopped him" argument just as well as Iraq. Also, keep in mind that the post-Saddam insurgency was being led by Al-Queda, you know, the same guys who brought down the World Trade Center. Also, conveniently, the same ones who "supposedly" didn't care about Iraq at all.
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Yes, I think France should have deposed Hitler themselves. But beyond that I don't recall the French trying to kill our soldiers after they were freed. We aren't wanted there. And to anyone with a brain it is painfully obvious by this point in time that they would rather live under Saddam's rule than be "freed" by the US.
Again, it is quite obvious that the Iraqi people could have put up one hell of a resistance against Saddam if they so desired to. They are showing just what kind of fight they can put up against our military, and it isn't insignifigant.
But don't play the alturism card. There is no way that the government would do something like this unless they had something to gain. But regardless we attacked a country that did not attack us, nor was currently threatening military action against another country. Much like Nazi Germany, we just showed up on Iraq's door and welcomed ourselves in.
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There is a slight difference between liberating a country taken over by another country and liberating a country under siege by a tyrannical and genocidal dictator, do you not agree? Of course there was resistance after we toppled Sadam's official military. You think that the terrorists thought it would be a good idea if the United States removed Sadam from power?
Asserting that the Iraqi people would have rather lived under Sadam's rule than be freed from his tyranny makes me sick to my stomach. Did you live there? Have you ever lived under a tyrannical despot who believe killing a certain sect of his population is just fine? No, you've probably lived in a country where the government isn't breaking down houses and killing people with opposing views. Your ignorance is disgusting.
You make it seem like it's easy to rebel against dictators, that somehow it only takes a certain amount of will to accomplish, and that if it isn't accomplished it inherently means that there was no wish to do so in the first place. Essentially, your "logic," boils down to, "Hey, if you didn't do it, you must not have really wanted to."
Idiotic at best, especially considering the fact that the ultimate price (human life) is on the line when it comes to things like overthrowing a government, and that people would rather protect themselves then put them and their families in harms way unless they were either A) desperate enough or B) had a high probability of organization and success. I'm willing to best the most you've ever risked in your life's endeavor's was no more than $100. Maybe if your life is ever at stake you'll open your eyes.
Comparing us to Nazi Germany is ridiculous. Nazi Germany wanted to retake land for themselves and establish an empire. Is that what we've done? Explain the timetables for slowly removing our presence as well because I don't think Hitler was reporting to his people that he'd be slowly withdrawing troops from all of Western Europe. Oh, and are you also implying that the countries Hitler invaded were committing acts of genocide against their people, funneling money into a few elites while the rest of the population starves--that Hitler's aim was to liberate Western Europe from the tyranny of democracy?
Get your head on straight.
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By getting my head on straight you mean turning off my brain and tuning into baseball and apple pie propoganda don't you?
Sorry, no. It still comes down to the fact that we were the aggressor in this. Look back in the history books a little and see what it says about the countries that invade other countries which had not attacked them.
The Iraqi people don't want us to be there, the world doesn't want us to be there, a large amount of Americans don't want us to be there. The only people on this planet who do want us to be there are a handfull of you Limbaugh supporters.
You cannot tell me that the Iraqi people, who are giving hell to their "liberators", one of the, if not the most powerful militaries on earth that they could not have not put up some kind of fight against their leader that you tell us they supposedly hated. Why can they do one thing which is phenomenal and not do something which is really hard? Why is that?
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they tempt you with a bribe and then (without your knowledge?) proceed to speak for you ... thats gotta be ilegal right?
oh wait politicians do it all the time they tell you the're going to do all kinds of good stuff to get you to vote then they get elected and all of a sudden oops not enough funds or its not practical blearghh
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website backed by a series of insurance brokers and underwriters, including the BlueCross BlueShield Association, the National Association of Health Underwriters and the America’s Health Insurance Plans
It seems that the campaign is offered on Facebook under the guise of a quiz
Without getting in to the whole debate, these two lines right here make me very wary. Do they explain what is done after the quiz? and do they reveal who exactly is financing this? Could be trouble for them.
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Probably not, as that is not the norm for Facebook quizzes.
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This seems to be a simple matter of adapting this type of data mining toward political affairs. Data is still data, after all.
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"It seems that the campaign is offered on Facebook under the guise of a quiz"
Are they being told that a letter would be sent on their behalf?
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Odds are no. There's a number of those quizzes on FB that's tied to shady and illegal practices. FB and the games tied to them do nothing to stop it because they make money off of it.