Porn Star Pokes Videogames

Anti-game crusaders may have a new (and unlikely) ally—porn star Ron Jeremy.

The subject of videogames cropped up in a debate at the Consumer Electronics Show between Jeremy and anti-pornography activist Craig Gross reports PCMag. The inclusion came as Jeremy was attempting to infer that the porn industry is in business only to serve adults over the age of 18 years old.

He stated:

We don’t want kids to watch porn. Though if they do, he added, there are far worse influences out there — like video games.

 

[Studies have] found that violent video games are much bigger a negative influence on kids

Gross and Jeremy did manage to agree, however, that it’s up to parents to keep explicit or non-age related material out of the hands of their kids.

GP: Having a hard time (no pun intended) here believing that Ron has read all the relevant studies. This incident just illustrates (laughably) how much of a scapegoat videogames have become for social ills. Perhaps a new pro-videogame crusade could be launched under the banner "At Least It’s Not Porn," or Frumpy Middle-Aged Mom and Ron can team up to promote the evils of games.

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  1. lordlundar says:

    The really hilarious part about this is he has his virtual self in a mediocre indie adult game where he’s a pretty important character to interact with to finish the game. He’s no better than Schwarzenegger, bashing on one side of his face while selling himself out on the other.

  2. jedidethfreak says:

    Great way to actually respond in the proper conversation.

    You KILL Vampires. You don’t DATE them.

  3. Skillz817 says:

    porn star- that was all the information I needed, now I don’t have to take this seriously.

     

     

    Courage is not the absence of fear, but the strength to overcome it.

  4. gellymatos says:

    You know when x has become a scapegoat when porn says that x is way worse than it in an act of putting away bad attention.

  5. ZippyDSMlee says:

    Hey A_L you know…… you are singling out the gay pride stuff as the normal….I didn’t know screaming the bible down to people and blocking funerals and being blatantly hatefully and misguided was the proper christian thing to do….great way to compare apples to oranges…


    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy! CP/IP laws should not effect the daily life of common people! http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

  6. Father Time says:

    I just realized that Craig dude was on Penn and Teller BS, on the war on porn episode (Ron Jeremy was on once too but it was on the circumcision episode).

    I wish media would stop trying to throw each other activists like a game of hot potato. "We don’t want to deal with these shmucks, you take them video games/porn/whatever."

    We should all know such crap doesn’t turn people evil.

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  7. PumaFau says:

    [sarcasm]Yes because porn is better than virtual violence[sarcasm] please someone shut this fat douchebag up.

    And personally who cares if he has sex on some trashy videos he’s just trying to make his industry look better by bashing another. Personally that’s douchebaggery when we are all on the same side

     

    Never underestimate the power of idiots in large amounts.

  8. Valdearg says:

    As long as anyone involved in a sexual act is a WILLING, OF AGE participant, who is anyone to judge, so long as it’s done safely, and without lasting physical harm? The guy has a fetish that make most people, including myself, mind you, go "EEW!" But as long as everyone involved wants to be involved, who cares? Just don’t get involved.

  9. Erik says:

    Actually you are judging.  You do that quite a lot actually.  But you judge "prudes" as in people who don’t drink strangers piss in the same breath that you chastise anyone judges Toilet Pig.  But it is stuff like this that makes me even more pissed off that fucking Regan closed so many mental hospitals that people in the above so so desperately need.

    To paraphrase you, the moderate homosexuals are not doing enough to distance themselves from these fanatics.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  10. Valdearg says:

    I will admit, that guy had a very wierd fetish. However, who are we to judge, as long as nobody is pissing on me, he can do whatever the hell he wants. If you don’t want to see it, don’t go to the FETISH FESTIVAL. It’s not that hard to understand.

  11. Erik says:

    Given a choice between being the guy who wears shorts in the shower, and being the guy who squats in the street and waits to get pissed on, I’ll be the guy who wears shorts in the shower.  Prudism seems to be the better option the more people "express" things that need to be kept behind closed doors.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  12. black manta says:

     

    Now.. if pro-video game and pro-porn people can just remember to work together rather then each trying to sacrifice the other we might get somewhere.

    This is actually one of the classical reasons that conservative activist groups tend to work well while thier liberal counterparts struggle.  Conservative groups tend to try to back each other up, while liberal groups often sell each other out to try to look more ‘mainstream’.

    That’s a good point, and in theory it should work.  However, it’s easier for conservative activist groups to do that because they know the values they’re espousing are essentially more appealing.  It’s hard to do that when you’re trying to defend porn, video games, gay rights, marijuana legalization and pro-choice.  Who’s actually going to step forward and make those positions sound appealing?  It’s easier to say, "I’m for mom, America and apple pie!" when the opposite appears to say, "I’m for social corruption, moral decay and decadence!"

    As someone who holds a lot of liberal values (marijuana legalization, pro-choice, gay rights, and consdier myself to be polyamorous) and who enjoys both video games and porn (I know a few people in both industries)  I’ve often wondered myself why they don’t work together.  But I think it’s for the above reaosns I mentioned that they don’t.

  13. Valdearg says:

    Forced?

    Hah, what, were you the victim of some roving gang of violent gays? Did they hold a gun to your head and force you to stare at men in chaps? Oh, the HORROR!

    Milwaukee Pride actually has a pretty even representation of Males vs Females. I was actually surprised, the first year I went, because I was expecting nothing but gay guys, like I’m sure many people assume. As it turns out, the split is something like 60-40, Male Vs. Female.

  14. Bennett Beeny says:

    "…every time shit like this happens, I guarantee it sets the gay movement back. "

    If you’re this upset by guys exposing themselves in a gay pride parade, you need therapy. And the only people who feel such things set the gay movement back are the nutters who believe gays are the devil. I don’t think the movement can be set any further back in those folks’ eyes.

    Nudity – the body’s natural state – cannot set a bad impression on anyone except the sort of prudes who wear shorts in the shower for fear of seeing their private parts. Do you really want to be one of those folks?

  15. Valdearg says:

    How are they the "Worst Aspects of the Gay lifestyle"? Clearly, your mind is too closed to comprehend the whole "Sexual Expression" thing. These people aren’t some criminal element, the majority of them are probably totally normal, producing members of society on any other day. Yes, what they are doing isn’t socially acceptable by the mainstream standards, but they are willing adults engaging in consenting practises, and the festival itself sets up an atmosphere of exhibitionism and public sexuality from the start. Like I said, it’s an expression of sexuality, and there’s nothing wrong with it. On top of that, according to the link you posted, the people who WERE in attendence seemed to enjoy and encourage the public antics, and nobody there voluntarily was offended by it. Therefore, I see nothing wrong with that kind of expression.

    The ONLY thing that I think I’d classify as a negative thing would probably be the amount of unprotected sex happening. That could pose a public health risk, in an atmosphere like that. Other than that though, to each thier own, like I said before.

     

  16. Valdearg says:

    Let me be the first to tell you that that festival was FAR, FAR, FAR more extreme than anything I’ve seen here in Milwaukee. Those images are probably something I would have avoided, if I were there.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folsom_Street_Fair

    That being said, The Folsom street fair is a festival of sexual expression, and BDSM, NOT a Gay Pride Fest. Yes, clearly there are many gay individuals there, but the festival itself is NOT focused on gays, gay pride, or gay rights. It’s focused on Bondage, Exhibitionism, and extreme fetishes. This example, while clearly the extreme side of sexuality, and something I, personally, don’t have too much interest in, is still just an expression of sexuality. If you don’t want to view extreme acts of fetishism and bondage, you probably shouldn’t go to an extreme fetish festival.

    To be completely honest, some sexual expressions still freak me out, personally. But, unlike you, apparently, I know that different people have different fetishes, and to each thier own.

    Edit: In addition, after exploring that ZombieTime link some more, it’s clearly a right wing rag, and it clearly omits many details in order to steer it’s narrative to support the right wing. I knew that folsom street festival wasn’t as bad as he was portraying it.

  17. Bennett Beeny says:

    Even if there aren’t topless lesbians, and I’ve yet to see one that doesn’t have at least some pretty women worth seeing, gay pride parades are incredibly fun – unless of course you’re a raging homophobe. I mean I just don’t see what’s not to like. But heck, if you really don’t like them, what the heck are you doing ‘enduring’ them? You have a voice and a pair of legs – just say no and walk away.

  18. DarkSaber says:

    Why not? It works for conservatives and their media groups.

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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  19. Austin_Lewis says:

    If you don’t think showcasing things like the leather and fetish gay crowd at gay pride parades is showcasing some of the worst aspects of the gay lifestyle as a whole, I’m going to go ahead and call you an idiot too. 

    Why not showcase the great successes?  The well raised children and stable families?  No, that’s too sensible.  Let’s showcase the things most likely to shock and scare the rest of society.

  20. DarkSaber says:

    Funnily enough, the gay pride parade photos I’ve seen from numerous years, taken by numerous friends and at various cities show a roughly 85% female to 14% male to 1% could be bloody either ratio.

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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  21. DarkSaber says:

    "every time shit like this happens, I guarantee it sets the gay movement back."

    Replace gay with "conservative" and it applies to the entire conservative side of america every time a conservative opens his mouth.

    And by saying "worst aspects" and "worst impression" just shows your typical and unsurprising bigotry.

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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  22. Austin_Lewis says:

    Yeah, bullshit.  The one gay pride parade I was forced to endure was around 95% men and 5% women.  And while I agree, there can’t be enough topless lesbians in the world, that doesn’t mean I want to subject a busy metropolitan area to such things

  23. Austin_Lewis says:

    Yeah, let me tell you, no one running errands in San Francisco would ever encounter something that would be called indecent exposure anywhere else.

    Oh, wait.

    http://www.zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_blurred/index.php

    Now true, these are some of the crazier people in the gay community, but every time shit like this happens, I guarantee it sets the gay movement back.  So you may stand by your ‘oh, it’s a funny way to ”shock” the squares’ bullshit, but in the end, you’re the one who’s ignorant. 

    Here’s a hint; it’s never a good idea to showcase the worst aspects and people’s worst impression of your culture in an attempt to freak people out.  And if you think otherwise, you’re a fucking moron.

  24. Valdearg says:

    Hah! And that’s also a bonus, no doubt.

    Seriously, though, Gay Pride Celebrations are something I’d suggest ANYONE with an open mind attend. They are a TON of fun, and there are beautiful people walking around everywhere!

    For the record: When I attend Milwaukee Pride, yearly, I do avoid walking through the section of the park that the older leatherbound gentlemen and masculine lesbians occupy. I’ve got nothing against them, and encourage thier expression, but it’s not something I want to look at, haha! I’d rather ogle the sexy 20 somethings on the other side of the park! Topless or not, watching a pair of hot college age lesbians make out will always make your day.

  25. Bennett Beeny says:

    I’m with Valdearg on this one. I’m not gay myself, but I think the world could do with a few more gay pride parades. Remember, usually the guys with the assless chaps are walking alongside topless lesbians. If you ask me, there cannot be too many topless lesbians in the world.

  26. Valdearg says:

    Ugh.. Again, you expose yourself as a total ignorant moron.

    "Gay Pride" parades only happen in one month of the year, really, except for special circumstances. On top of that, if you don’t want to see it, don’t watch. Much like we say if you don’t like a game, don’t play it. Nobody is forcing you to stare at some guys bare ass, you are the one doing it.

    While I will admit Pride Parades certainly have a unique and sometimes inappropriate feel to them, it’s no different than other festivals celebrating sexuality and expression. Hell, I’ve been to Gay Pride Celebrations on a regular basis for years, and the fact is that many of the "inappropriate" or "extreme" visuals you get, such as the assless chaps or people wearing Bondage gear, are there almost exclusively to offend the easily offended.

    Hell, I know a few gay guys who are totally normal 364 days a year. Jeans and a T-Shirt, Boxers, normal shoes and socks, just like any of us. Only on that one day they attend a Pride Festival do they dress up in whatever crazy outfit they pick out, wearing womens underwear, no shirt, or even a tiara, at times. Is it them? Nope, they just do it to freak out the Conservatives. Sort of like real life trolling.

    Frankly, It’s all in good fun, and if you are put off by it, don’t show up.

  27. Austin_Lewis says:

    You know what’s holding back the gay movement and turning opinion against them? Shit like the ‘Gay Pride’ Parades.

    No one cares if you’re gay, but no one wants to see someone walking down the street in assless chaps.

  28. Erik says:

    After subject to watching consenting adults get in on in public, such as on the bus, I can say that I would much rather see their heads rolling around.

    -Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person’s fear of their own freedom-

  29. Bennett Beeny says:

    "…more would prefer their kids see scenes of severed heads then scenes of consenting adults getting it on."

    Which just goes to show how stupidly prudish, sick and ass-backwards our society is.

  30. Andrew Eisen says:

    Looking at another survey from the same article shows parents are a bit more concerned about GTA than pornography.

    The second poll… queried parents on what they’d be most concerned about their 17-year-old child indulging in while at a sleepover. More than 1,600 respondents revealed they’re more apprehensive about their child smoking marijuana (49%) and playing the video game Grand Theft Auto (19%), than watching pornography (16%) and drinking beer (14%).

    Not sure why they’d care that a 17-year-old is playing GTA or watching porn but there you go.

     

    Andrew Eisen

  31. Valdearg says:

    Huh.. Interesting, because I’d rather see two consenting adults getting it on than a graphically severed head. If that head is anywhere near realistic, it would make my stomach turn.

  32. Skillz817 says:

    "That "washed-up fat bastard" has been PAID to shag more attractive (plastic or not) women in his life then you will EVER shag in your life voluntarily."

    And that matters… why?"

     

    Most males think screwing around with every girl in town makes them look like a hero.

     

     

     

    Courage is not the absence of fear, but the strength to overcome it.

  33. Neeneko says:

    Mmmm.. sour grapes ^_^

    Most of the people I have met who work in the adult industry over the years really enjoy what they do and have a lot of fun doing it (though it is also rather hard work).

    Just because a girl is doing sex for a living does not mean she can not enjoy it.  The only reason people tend to think otherwise is the ‘devaluing’ bullshit that claims girls have something ‘taken away’ from them by having sex and thus are less pure for thier eventual husband/boyfriend. Ah.. steal objectification.

  34. DarkSaber says:

    I wasn’t even aware I HAD credibility.

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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  35. DarkSaber says:

    "and BTW, I can guarantee I’ve had more than you."

    Congratulations on reducing your statements to negative credability.

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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  36. Kincyr says:

    like I care, and BTW, I can guarantee I’ve had more than you.

    besides, not very many women in America’s porn industry are what I’d call attractive anyway

    岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

  37. Valdearg says:

    True. In order to work in the Sex industry, whether that be legalized prostitution, in Nevada, or in Porn, you are required to undergo STD tests before your first gig and at regular intervals after. The big name porn industry does it’s best to take care of the health of it’s stars. Aside from the occassional controversy, which is regrettable, most mainstream porn actors and actresses are absolutely clean and 100% healthy.

  38. DarkSaber says:

    Porn stars are probably much less likely to be diseased than Sarah Slut you met down the pub.

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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  39. Bennett Beeny says:

    If anything, it makes them more of a diseased man. Personally, I’d prefer to have one good sexual experience with a woman who is sincerely enjoying herself, rather than all of Ron Jeremy’s experiences with potentially diseased women who are mostly jaded and barely acting.

  40. DarkSaber says:

    I’m certainly arguing that it’s pretty damn far from "washed-up".

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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  41. Bennett Beeny says:

    "That "washed-up fat bastard" has been PAID to shag more attractive (plastic or not) women in his life then you will EVER shag in your life voluntarily."

    And that matters… why?

  42. Austin_Lewis says:

    I just think it’s funny when people in porn are hopping on the witch hunt bandwagon for another form of entertainment.  

  43. Bennett Beeny says:

    His comment is interesting because it really illustrates the level of ‘witch hunt’ that video games are being subjected to. I mean, here we have a medium that has never been shown to do anyone the least bit of harm – an entertainment medium that is about as dangerous to a person’s health as is eating apple pie. Yet most people believe video games are worse than porn. Now personally, I don’t buy the notion that porn is dangerous either, but I do understand how ludicrously prudish most people are, and a witch hunt has to be pretty bad if society generally regards the witch that’s being hunted as worse than porn.

    The thing is, there are much worse things that kids can get involved in – gangs, drugs, child prostitution, child porn, etc. But the first thing that came to his mind was video games. How sick does society have to be when video games are the first ‘evil’ that springs to people’s minds?

  44. Austin_Lewis says:

    I know that Ron Jeremy has a Master’s in Special Education, but his opinion still reeks of the lazy, stupid and uninformed, as well as of mudslinging.  I get the feeling he’s trying to say ‘well, at least we’re not making videogames here!’.

  45. DarkSaber says:

    That "washed-up fat bastard" has been PAID to shag more attractive (plastic or not) women in his life then you will EVER shag in your life voluntarily.

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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  46. Kincyr says:

    well of course this washed-up fat bastard would say that, he’s just shifting the blame. besides, the ‘net has essentially eliminated the need of money for porn, unlike videogames in which you still need to purchase.

    岩「…Where do masochists go when they die?」

  47. Neeneko says:

    Now.. if pro-video game and pro-porn people can just remember to work together rather then each trying to sacrifice the other we might get somewhere.

    This is actually one of the classical reasons that conservative activist groups tend to work well while thier liberal counterparts struggle.  Conservative groups tend to try to back each other up, while liberal groups often sell each other out to try to look more ‘mainstream’.

    Sometimes I wonder if the gay marriage issue would have gone better if many of the gay rights activists had not alienated so many of their long time allies in their attempt to look more ‘normal’.  Hard to say if such things result in more mainstream assistance then loss of alternative assistance….

  48. Zerodash says:

    "Porn: At least it’s not Videogames!"

    The only people who come off as utterly insane as anti-games folk are the anti-porn folk. 

  49. Vake Xeacons says:

    Actually, this is perfect! By relating Ron Jeremy to anti-gamers, it makes them look bad. Same way relating relating Jack Thompson to the church gives them a bad rep. Same way relating school shooters to gamers give us a bad rep. I’m tired having to wash my hands of all the @$$#*!!s who claim to support my cause! It’s time to turn the tables!

     

  50. Adrian Lopez says:

    I find myself not particularly caring whether Ron Jeremy thinks video games are "worse" than porn, but I do think it’s hilarious that the picture you’ve chosen to accompany this writeup has him looking exactly like Mario.

  51. hellfire7885 says:

    Well, to their credit, at least they agreed that game content regulation is the job of the parents and no one else


  52. Dan says:

    I would make a quip about politics making strange bedfellows, but that would be too easy.

    —— Ago. Perceptum. Teneo.

  53. Andrew Eisen says:

    As I recall, there was a similar survey.  Unsurprisingly, more would prefer their kids see scenes of severed heads then scenes of consenting adults getting it on.

    Ah, here it is:

    According to WTP’s data, here’s what parents found most offensive in video games:

    • a man and woman having sex (37%)

    • two men kissing (27%)

    • a graphically severed head (25%)

    • multiple use of the F-word (9%).

     

    Andrew Eisen

  54. Valdearg says:

    I kind of like it. "Video Games: At least it’s not porn!" It has a nice ring to it.

    We could send out polls to people, with the question: "Would you rather have your child play video games or watch pornography? (Yes) – (No)"

    That way, we can claim that 98% of American Parents support video games, when the poll comes back!

    It’s PERFECT!

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