After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

January 26, 2010 -

The heartbreaking story of a nine-year old Texas boy committing suicide at school led a Clinical Psychologist to attempt to pin part of the blame for kids acting out in ways outside of the norm on violent videogames.

The fourth-grader in question was a student at Stewart Creek Elementary School. He asked a nurse to use the restroom, locked himself inside and tragically hung himself. In a CNN video report on the story, Clinical Psychologist Dr. Brenda Wade was brought in for commentary.

The doctor cited two factors for why children are acting out in ways “never imagined possible”. The first was that there is now “more instability” in families, because of external stresses and the economy.

The second factor? Violent videogames of course.

Dr. Wade stated:

The other factor is that younger and younger children are exposed to very violent videogames with content that I would shudder to have an adult watch on a regular basis.

We just covered, a couple days ago, the story that children are watching as much as 52 hours a week of TV and sitting in front of a screen. A lot of that content is not uplifting and it’s not teaching our children how to handle problems and feelings.


These statements came moments after the Doctor cautioned that we “don’t want to blame and cast dispersions” at what role the boy’s family may have played in the tragedy.

Dr. Wade bills herself as a nationally syndicated talk show host and best selling author (as seen on Oprah). Visitors to her website are also offered a free love lesson.


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Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Videogames...is there anything bad they can't do?

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

They can't take out stains from my carpet!  That's what Oxyclean's for!

Brainwave:  an Oxyclean videogame!  Then they can do everything.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Nope. Videogames are so evil they sank the titanic and caused WWII, before they were even invented!

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

It's all part of the conspiracy, you see.  Video game companies created a shared world setting based around widespread fighting in Europe.  Then they decided they could sell more games if they went back in time and made it actually happen.

World War 1 (AKA "The Great War") never actually happened.  It was all a huge propaganda work done because they liked the way "World War Two" sounded better.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

We're waiting for World War III now, because everything's a trilogy.  Everything else is a reboot or spinoff.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Let's just hope it doesn't succumb to Godfather syndrome.

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Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

They need to make sure they nail that one, though, because I've heard there won't be a World War IV

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Gee I hope it doesn't involve nuclear weapons. That was the grand finale for the second world war and it'd be lame to just repeat the stunt over and over and over.

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Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Bah, it's just one sentence.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Bynow that record's grooves are worn smooth.

 

Seriosuly, this shit was old when it was new.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Or.....kids were always like this?  Really, there's no bit of evidence that today's kids are any different than decades ago.  Saying that something was better in the past usually seems to me to be a case of nostalgia and personal bias rather than something based in reality. 

So no, today's youth are not more estranged or messed up in the head than in the past.  Video games have no blame in anything.  It certainly isn't making the youth of today more violent or suicidal.  Case in point, the FBI has shown a steady decrease in youth violence over the past decade and more.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

They put on rose colored filters and look at the past, and al lthey see are polite little angels and a world where wearing your sunday best and minding your manners somehow magically made you a good citizen.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

The reason they're the "good old days" for them is because whereas today they have responsibilities and stuff, they were kids way back then.  They didn't have any responsibilities aside from going to school and paying attention.  It was pretty much stress-free after the polio vaccine.  For the most part, they didn't have to worry about food, or clothes, or shelter - they had their parents taking care of them.

They see the early years of their as sunshine and unicorns because that's what the world is to kids, which they were.  As you grow up, you start to see how ugly the world is.  From there, you can accept it, exploit it, or try to make it better in some way.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Or more specifically, they see a past where things that shamed family were simply hidden from view.. a time where little girls who got pregnant vanished for 9 months to one of those horrible shame schools, or simply was forced to have an abortion (kinda strange.. abortion was not immoral in the evangelical community when fathers could force it on an unwilling daughter)... when troubled little boys were quietly locked up where they would not disturb the neighbors....

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Meanwhile they ignore the race issues, women's rights, drugs, social unrest, etc.  Convenient that.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

To AMAZON, game-fans!


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Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Why bother?  Love Lessons ranks over the 2.5 million mark.  A far, far cry from even the top 1000.

Another book ranks over the 1.4 million mark.  And a third, dealing with relationships and race (not even VAGUELY interested in how the explaination of dealing with the issues of individuals having relationsonships with other individuals can, or even should, be segregated by race considering that according to the summary, African-American men and women are having trouble relating to each other because of European-Americans), is over the 300,000 rank.

And, though there are a few blithering kissy-hug-hug blind followers giving her high marks on one of the books, it looks like the books amounted, and still amount, to diddly squat.

So, why bother?

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Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

(Just to play Devil's Advocate) I can see why people would down-rate her books, just out of principal. It won't have any real effect, sure, but it'll work to show how serious the gaming community is.

If she can play the slander-blame-game, so can we.

I'm not taking part in those types of shenanigans, but I don't think that it should be discouraged. Better that than, say, threats.

-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-

-Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis-It is best to endure what you cannot change-

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

"serious the gaming community is"? All it shows is how immature a section of the gaming community is. We can not argue on facts so lets attack the people attacking us.

Great job guys, well done!

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A house is not a home unless it contains food and fire for the mind as well as the body. Benjamin Franklin

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A house is not a home unless it contains food and fire for the mind as well as the body. Benjamin Franklin

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Not this again -Gets ready to laugh at the situation- google her books on amazon if you want to, just leave this site and it's members out it

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Enough with the Game Blame already(Although opinions should be taken with a grain of salt)

Watching JT on GP is just like watching an episode of Jerry springer only as funny as the fights

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: After Tragedy, Dr. Plays Violent Game Blame Card

Yeah, let's not bring the family into this, however abusive or neglecting they may have been. Let's point fingers everywhere but ourselves. Games are always the easiest scapegoat! Let's blame them...AGAIN! Hey, "Hang Yourself 3: Bowels of the Bathroom" just came out; kid must have played that!
 
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AvalongodAgain I think we're conflating the issue of whether Sarkeesian's claims are beyond critique (no they're not) and whether its ever appropriate to use sexist language, let alone physical threats on a woman to intimidate her (no it isn't)08/29/2014 - 5:04pm
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