In a Console World, PCs Remain Military Training Platform of Choice

February 9, 2010 -

As the U.S. military turns more and more to PC-based military simulations as a less expensive solution to real-world exercises, an article on Wired examines whether game consoles might eventually replace PCs as the training platform of choice.

While they can lack horsepower when compared to their PC brethren, consoles are attractive to Army officials for one reason—price. Consoles can cost a couple of hundred dollars, while a high-end PC can run into the thousands.

It seems, though, that Microsoft themselves may have created a roadblock to the more widespread use of Xbox consoles within the military. The Wired article features feedback from the Chief Technology Officer of U.S. Army Program Executive Office for Simulation, Training & Instrumentation, who claims that Microsoft refused to sell him consoles in 2006.

Roger Smith said the Xbox-maker gave him three reasons for the refusal: Microsoft feared a low attach rate for the consoles sold to the military, the military could have drained supplies of the console and Microsoft did not necessarily want their console associated with the Army, as this could “taint its reputation.”

A Microsoft spokesperson answered that the military was free to team up with an existing developer (as was done in the case of THQ’s Full Spectrum Warrior) or they could leverage XNA Game Studio development tools and create their own games.

It turns out that Smith may not even be interested in using the Xbox anymore, as he stated, “Our initial enthusiasm when Xbox and XNA were new products has cooled.” So it appears the PC will remain the training base of choice for at least the near future, leveraging a more open architecture and an ability for greater performance.

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Re: In a Console World, PCs Remain Military Training ...

I have a feeling the main reason Microsoft would not want to sell xboxes to the military would be the loss.  Recall consoles are sold at a significant loss that is made up via game purchaces.  These training centers are not going to fill up with piles of games.

Though from the military's perspective,... they do not need a true 'general purpose' PC.  These training rooms are used for training and nothing else.  They do need flexibility (like multi-head) though and, more importantly, the two main training enviroments (VBS2 and RealWorld) are serious resource hogs and would port all that well to a console in the first place.

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Taint Microsoft's reputation?  Is that even possible at this point?

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Re: In a Console World, PCs Remain Military Training ...

Well you can do more with a PC then you could with an xbox anyways.

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Re: In a Console World, PCs Remain Military Training ...

This.  That added cost will balance out if those PC's are used for more than games -- an $800 PC costs the same as a $300 game console plus a $500 PC.

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Becuse a PC is not a toy......its a multipurpose machine!

/PC snob


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Re: In a Console World, PCs Remain Military Training ...

Which is why you can justify spending 1k building a good one, that will blow a console out of the water and let you do you homework/email/chat/work.

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Re: In a Console World, PCs Remain Military Training ...

It do not take 1K to build a good one, it only takes 500 and you get 2K worth of stuff out of it unlike a console that can only play games and you must play them how big brother tells you....while he rubs your butt......


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Re: In a Console World, PCs Remain Military Training ...

I spent 570 on my box, total. 500 for the box, 69.99 for a video card upgrade.

 
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