AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

February 11, 2010 -

While it should be no surprise that Australian videogame retailers support the addition of an R18+ videogame rating category, as it would help to fill their coffers, some merchants have gone a step further and offered to display R18+ rated games in whatever fashion suits the government.

If an R18+ category was enacted for videogames, both GAME and Gametraders expressed to GameSpot their willingness to setup a separate section in stores for the adult-rated games. The pair also said that, if need be, they would follow the path of how R18+ movies are now merchandised in South Australia—housed in plain, generic covers.

Gametraders’ Marketing Director Chad Polley:

If it has to be done we will do it, but it would be our preference to place them in their appropriate platform section, up high, out of the view of minors. This is, of course, providing that the cover art is not deemed inappropriate for general public viewing.

A GAME spokesperson agreed, saying that although the plain wrappers would not be an “ideal solution,” they would acquiesce to any new legislation that the government enacted.

EBGames, who has shown their support of the addition of an R18+ rating category by plastering their stores with signage and inviting customers to sign a petition, was a little more reserved when it came to discussing how they would display adult titles if the time came, saying that the focus first should be on getting R18+ introduced before divulging any future plans.

Gametraders has since joined EBGames and also added a section to its website that urges people to voice their opinion to the government over the R18+ matter.


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Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

This is ridiculous. Atikinson is making a big deal about it, when it's not a big deal. It is ONLY a small problem to parents & whoever else is concerned w/it. The AU government just needs to get fire Atkinson. He is making everyone's lives down there harder than it already is.

 

 

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Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

wouldnt plain covers make it harder for parents to tell its too adult for their kids ... the dumb parents I mean yknow most of em

Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

Ok Labor party, here'a deal for you.

 

You want the internet filter, I want R18 games.

You want no R18 games,  I want no internet filter.

Pick one.

Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

I like what you ended your post with Thomas. I actually just started playing Warcraft 3 again.

Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

Much as I hate to say it, we have greater concerns here in Australia than just video game censorship. Lazy, ignorant and just plain stupid individuals of all stripes (some of whom I would never expect it of) are supporting censorship of the entire internet on a mandatory Government level.

Sadly, I suspect that if many of these people bother responding to this video game discussion paper, they will be saying the same things.. that they don't feel they can stop their children playing these games.. or viewing these websites.. so nobody should be allowed too.

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Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

Kinda like how in Urusuki Doji 3: Return of the Overfiend, that crazy Cezer guy who wanted his daughter all to himself, once said that if he can't have his daughter then nobody will have his daughter.

Or something like that.

Also isn't it strange that many people who are pro-censorship are parents who are afraid of having no control over their kids, so they want to make the government have laws that would be convinient only to them?

Some say it is the love of a parent, I call it being addicted to having control over their kids.

 

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Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

It's good that Gametraders are not only also willing to discuss the topic, but also show that they are willing to compromise on the issue. However, the compromise of choice isn't all that great in that I don't think game box art requires censorship specifically in relation to R18+ games.

Whenever compared to film, opponents to violent games often play the 'interactive nature of games' to [ignorantly] justify their point when the hypocrisy is pointed out that film contains equally or worse graphic imagery. You can't display this 'interactive nature' on a box and it's not transmitted through your retina like some funky airborne STD. There are already standards for displaying imagery on packaging in public and I would maintain that it is a completely separate issue to the R-rating. When the worst of the MA15+ titles don't break these standards, considering the differnece between them and a banned version are often negligible, I'm not sure exactly what R18+ titles can do to top this, especially since the imagery is often only one aspect of games subject to a ban under the current system. R-rated games should be displayed as any other title and standards of packaging maintained as per the law requires.

Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

Sigh, one step forward, two steps back.

This isn't about videogames, this is about one meglomaniac who thinks he gets to control media in a nation.

The "generic packaging" of movies was the first salvo in a much broader war. It is nothing but creeping censorship. By saying "We'll cordone them off" or "we'll give them generic packaging" the industry is just admitting there is something inherently bad about the media.

That's all Atkinson and his ilk need to be able to say "See, they shouldn't be sold even in the same stores" or "If they are inherently bad they shouldn't be sold at all.'

Australians need to stand up before they find themselves living in 1984 and where the only media you're allowed to consume has to be "Atkinson Approved."

Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

I don't shop by rating.  I'd prefer games be shelved in alphabetical order so I can easily find what I'm looking for.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

Retailers support something that would lead to increased sales. Whoulda thunk it.

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Re: AU Retailers Discuss Their Readiness for R18+

It's the how, not the why.

 
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DocMelonheadSorry about that, but I'm surprise at what IP posted;05/29/2015 - 7:25am
E. Zachary KnightIron, I did not Google Search because I figured the ESRB would publish such infor on their site, which is where I looked. http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_process.jsp05/29/2015 - 7:22am
WonderkarpDocMelonHead, don't look a gift horse in the mouth05/29/2015 - 7:21am
E. Zachary KnightDoc, Uncalled for. Please keep things civil.05/29/2015 - 7:21am
MattsworknameThey were discussing the appeals process for Esrb ratings Doc.05/29/2015 - 7:21am
DocMelonheadDid IP post something that isn't related to White Supremecy?05/29/2015 - 7:13am
IronPatriotBut hey, you're welcome.05/29/2015 - 5:23am
Andrew EisenEZK did say he didn't find any info on the appeals process. And if all he did was look at the ratings process part of the ESRB's website, he wouldn't have. That's where I would have looked too. But hey, thanks for being thorough and finding the info.05/29/2015 - 5:01am
Andrew EisenDude, again. I am NOT saying there is no appeals process. THERE OBVIOUSLY IS. All I am saying is that the appeals process is not described in the ratings process part of the ESRB's website.05/29/2015 - 4:59am
IronPatriotI googled appeal esrb.org and it is the first and third hits. Second is esrb talking about appeals for web publishers. Gamefaqs is fourth.05/29/2015 - 4:01am
IronPatriotZachary said he did not find any information about a formal appeals process. I did a simple search and found two places on the esrb site with the info. Just sayin.05/29/2015 - 3:57am
IronPatriotOn Google I get "1 Written Testimony of Patricia E. Vance President ... - ESRB" http://www.esrb.org/about/news/downloads/pvtestimony_6_14_06.pdf05/29/2015 - 3:55am
Andrew EisenNow, that post on GameFAQs was made four years ago. It appears the ESRB has since moved the appeals process stuff behind the publisher login on its website.05/29/2015 - 3:32am
Andrew EisenOh, third link on the Google search. Okay. That leads to a GameFAQs message board which quotes a section of the ESRB website that includes a description of the appeals process. But when you follow the link, that quote doesn't exist.05/29/2015 - 3:30am
Andrew EisenThird link down from what? Look, I'm not arguing the existance of an appeals process. There obviously is one. I was merely noting that it's odd that it isn't described on the website's ratings process section but it is on the mobile site.05/29/2015 - 3:25am
IronPatriotOK, so use the third link down, which describes the appeals process and is not on the mobile site"Publishers also have the ability to appeal an ESRB rating assignment to an Appeals Board, which is made up of publishers, retailers and other professionals."05/29/2015 - 2:47am
Andrew EisenRight, which links to the ESRB's mobile site. On the website (again, unless I'm overlooking it) the appeals process is locked behind the publisher login.05/29/2015 - 2:37am
IronPatriotHuh? Google "appeals esrb". It is the first link. Click it. No login requested.05/29/2015 - 2:31am
Andrew EisenInteresting. It's on the mobile site but unless I'm overlooking it, I don't see it under the Ratings Process on the web site. It is under the publishers section but you can't access it without a login.05/29/2015 - 2:13am
IronPatriot"Publishers also have the ability to appeal an ESRB rating assignment to an Appeals Board made up of publishers, retailers and other professionals. " Esrb05/29/2015 - 2:01am
 

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