Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

February 18, 2010 -

With the release of SOCOM: U.S. Nave SEALs Fireteam Bravo 3 for the PSP this week, Sony has implemented a new way to fight piracy on its handheld.

As detailed on IGN, those who purchase a physical copy of the SOCOM title will need to register the game on the PlayStation Network using a supplied voucher code in order to play SOCOM online. Those who download the game digitally will have their copy automatically registered in a background operation.

Anyone who purchases a used physical copy of the game will need to pay Sony $20 for a PSN entitlement voucher to play it online. A note on the back of the game box states: “Includes voucher for online play. The voucher can be redeemed by only one PSN account and cannot be transferred or sold.”

Sony’s Director of Hardware Marketing John Koller answered a few questions from IGN about the new scheme.

On whether this technology might also make its way to the PlayStation 3 in the future:

As with many programs, we're investigating future opportunities, but we have no announcements to make on it at this time.

How does Koller think PSP users will react to the new tech?

From our research, this will be received quite positively. Remember, piracy affects more than just the creators of the game. It also affects the consumers who purchase titles expecting a high-quality gaming experience.


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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

I love the SOCOM game series. But in order to stop piracy, Sony says that if anyone is wanting to play this game online, they will have a voucher on the back of the game to register this game w/an PlayStation account & only one. Then pay $20 to them to play it online. But if I get this game, I won't have to do that, since I don't have wifi on my PSP slim 3000. So wouldn't the game still be considered piracy by hooking it up to something & getting the data off of it somehow? I know there are ways to do it, but then I don't know how that would work.

 

 

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

One could make the argument that the scarecrow could bowwor the game from one of his friends and not pirate the game. That one way to play a game without paying for it.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Yes, but if you read the news post, you'd know that the scarecrow is a pirate.  I thought it was hilarious, as the scarecrow mimics - almost word for word - stuff that's been said here on GP by pirates and piracy apologists.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

But if you had actually paid attention to the DRM issue, it has nothing to do with piracy at all. This is meant to stop used game sales, just like the Ubisoft system, just like Steam and Direct 2 Drive, just like the PSP Go. These things are all ineffective at stopping piracy, but they seriously put a dent in used games.

AKA buy a game and you don't like it? LOL TOO BAD

Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Been having that mentality for games for over 20 years before Gamestop and the like surfaced. In the day and age of instantly finding out the merits of a video game by doing some research on it, there really is no excuse for you to be totally suprised by the content of a video game at this point.

Not saying, 'Gamestop and second hand sales should be stopped' or anything, but I am saying that your logic of buying a game and it suprising you with poor content is kind of a weak point.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Well, if you mean "hey, pirate the game and find out what it's like" then yeah, I've done that a few times. If you mean "check out this manufactured demo that doesn't really play like the game at all while watching these god awful gameplay videos" then no, your argument is weak.

Example: I downloaded Spore. It sucked, I deleted it. I downloaded Mass Effect. I liked it but didn't want to buy it because of DRM so I just didn't play it... but then they got rid of the DRM and I purchased it soon after. This is how I make a lot of purchasing decisions actually.

But you're saying it's impossible to be surprised with poor content? What about the fantastically reviewed Deus Ex, that turned out to be a piece of shit? If I had bought that I would have been pissed... or the aforementioned Spore, which had shown gameplay vastly different from the actual contents, and had no demo? I could go on and on with examples but it's past 11pm and I really don't care that much. Point is, being surprised by poor gameplay does happen.

Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

I thought Deus Ex was pretty good, so did the bulk of people who played it. The sequel was pretty much garbage in a box though.

I was actually trying to say we have a retarded amount of review sites (both user and editor point of views) that can help people decide on whether or not to purchase a game.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Look at the bright side.   At least it will deter people from cheating in multiplayer matches.   

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

This isn't about piracy or copyright protection, this is about attempting to destroy used game sales. That's all DRM is about and all DRM will ever be about.

Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Question. What about the version for PSP Go? Will it also require a voucher? Wouldn't put it past some companies.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

They said that downloaded versions - I'm assuming they refer to the PSP Go - would activate automatically.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Wow, that's certainly an effective way to destroy the used games trade.

Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

They just made me not want a PSP, period.

Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

I never understood why ANYONE wanted them.

However, I say ditch the cost of a new key, and I don't see a problem.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

PSP has a few really solid titles and the Monster Hunter series is phenomenal (personal opinion), it is also a solid MP3 player, has internet radio that is decent, is a good multimedia device, Skype compatible, in some countries it also operates as a GPS device.

It is quite the capable machine for its price. The PSP Go on the other hand....

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

From our research, this will be received quite positively.

Keep dreaming. Your house made of gold bricks will really take a little longer to be made for this crap.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Also funny to note that this is pretty much word-for-word what Ubisoft are saying about their bullshit for Assassins Creed 2 on PC.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Yes, is basically the same article word by word.

 

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

This becomes a buyer beware issue.

Now, if you don't like the game, you probably can't return it without the voucher, since it's effectively worth $20 less without. And forget about reselling it; it'll be worth less to stores and trade in centers too. Less-protected games have a bit of a safety -- at least if it's mediocre, you can sell it back for an ok price; now? Not likely.

Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Yep. Used game retailers will have to sell the game for $20 less than they would have without this DRM and will thus pay $20 less for it when someone trades it in.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

I don't remember a single game I've traded in that gave me more than $15, and that was because the game had just been released that month. I have a feeling that, if this is implemented regularly with $20 as the rate, used game sales will plummit and the trade will almost cease to exist. Which would be bad news for me as more than three-quarters of the games I buy are previously-owned copies because of the cheaper price.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Do used game retailers even give $10 on trade in?

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Piracy? I think not

Oh come off it, ECA. Get it right.

This isn't about piracy. This is actually a way of evading copyright law, but because it's by copyright holders taking away rights granted to their customers (and not the other way round) the term 'piracy' doesn't apply.

This is obviously aimed squarely at preventing/taxing used game sales. The games industry has had a bee in its bonnet for a couple of years now about used games (this site actually reported on the likes of Mark Rein from Epic saying as much). By using DRM coupled with a tax on passing on your used physical copies of the game, this is a technological method of preventing, or deterring people from exercising their 'first sale' right - the right to give away/lend/resell any legit copy of a copyrighted work you own, without paying a tithe to the copyright holder - which is guaranteed by copyright law in many countries. I'd have thought that the website of lobby group for gamers would at least be able to write the proper story ('Games industry uses technology to effectively rob consumers of their rights') instead of using the totally bogus propaganda terms used by the industry itself.

Re: Piracy? I think not

Part of the ECAs agenda is to try and get consumers to bend over and take the DRM dildo the corporations are wielding. Hal Halpin said as much (but not in those words) last year sometime.

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Re: Piracy? I think not

Interesting, do you mind sharing your source. Because I can't find anything.

The only recent thing I can find is from the FTC Townhall that Hal attended and his statements there:

http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/03/31/eca039s-hal-halpin-dishes-drm-eul...

There he says that if a game is going to include DRM it should be disclosed on the box, not just its presence but also what it actually does.

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Re: Piracy? I think not

Well for a start, saying what DRM is in the box really isn't going to help with, say, what Ubisoft are doing with Screed 2. It's STILL in the game. The ECA aren't fighting overly restrictive or downright abusive DRM in any way shape or form. Nor are they doing anything to protect consumers rights to re-sell games.

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Re: Piracy? I think not

Typically I want to smash your face in with a hammer, but you are so spot on with this it's unbelievable. The ECA is bullshit, and I am still glad that to this day, I have provided them no funding whatsoever.

When they decide to stand up for consumer rights, I'll take another look at it. But DRM, marked or not, is never acceptable.

Re: Piracy? I think not

When the ECA makes a public statement on their thoughts of this new tech, I am sure it will be reported. AS of now, it looks like GamePolitics is only reporting on what has been said. Yes, Game Politics inserts editorial opinion from time to time, they just chose not to in this case.

Yes it can easily be seen as a way to make money off used sales and it will most likely only achieve that. I don't doubt for a minute that this will not stop piracy in any form.

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Re: Piracy? I think not

It's not about inserting your own 'editorial opinion' - you're reprinting Sony's obviously ludicrous spin straight up as if it was fact - not just reporting on what was said.

There aren't even quotes around 'piracy fighting tech' in the headline, for instance, and the very first sentence states boldly that "Sony has implemented a new way to fight piracy on its handheld.", without even qualifying it by saying that this is just what Sony is saying.

You might as well just have reprinted Sony's very own press release.

Re: Piracy? I think not

I do believe Sony owns the rights to their own online servers, not you or I

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Re: Piracy? I think not

See my response below for the likely reason why they chose not to here compared to the 99% of articles they DO put some opinion into.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

This seems functionally identical to what PCs have had for years, the whole "need a VALID (non key-gen'd) CD key or you get booted off servers whenever you try and play online" thing.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Not quite. With a CD key, you can pass on the CD + key combo to another person, or resell it, once you're done with the game. Here, you can't.

Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Exactly, Sonys trying to battle the second hand market.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

Yep, this has absolutely nothing to do with battling piracy.

Look at all the big online distributions for PC? Steam, Direct 2 Drive, Impulse... these have not stopped piracy, even of games available exclusively on that platform. But they have stopped used game sales.

Seems the copyright guys don't want us to own our software.

Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

"How does Koller think PSP users will react to the new tech?

From our research, this will be received quite positively. Remember, piracy affects more than just the creators of the game. It also affects the consumers who purchase titles expecting a high-quality gaming experience.

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Let's see the details of that research.  I have doubts that the overall scheme will be received as positively as they claim.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

So now pirates are responsible for the falling quality of games as well as the escalating price? Wonder what's next, piracy causes cancer?

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

I know of a few companies that refuse to touch the system because of how high the piracy rate of it is. For example, Pandemic (who made God of War and Starwars Battlefront, the two most popular games, for the handheld) have pretty much abandonded the system for this very reason.

Sad thing is, the PSP is still quite the beast of a handheld, but good games for it are sparse. Of course, I can't blame developers for wanting to avoid, back when I played Resistance online with it, I ran into more people that openly admitted to pirating it than buying it.

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Cancer? Ridiculus. Everyone knows they cause diabetes.

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Re: Latest SOCOM PSP Release Features Piracy Fighting Tech

I thought it caused scurvy.

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