Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

July 16, 2010 -

Kotaku reports that the notorious Westboro Baptist Church (who you may know better as the "God Hates Fags" sign wielding congregation out of Kansas) will be in San Diego next week to protest the "idolatrous worship" taking place at Comic-Con (thanks to Shoutbox user Rodrigo Ybáñez García for the tip!).

The activity will happen on July 22. To get an idea of where this group is coming from you need look no further than comments in its schedule of events section on its web site:

Are you kidding?! If these people would spend even some of the energy that they spend on these comic books, reading the Bible, well no high hopes here. They have turned comic book characters into idols, and worship them they do! Isaiah 2:8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made: 9 And the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not. It is time to put away the silly vanities and turn to God like you mean it. The destruction of this nation is imminent - so start calling on Batman and Superman now, see if they can pull you from the mess that you have created with all your silly idolatry.

Commentary Alert: Looking at the sign in the picture above, it is hard to understand what these protestors are talking about. Are nerds like Esau - "hairy, immoral and dumb" as this site translates the twin brothers' long ordeal? Are these protestors heirs as Jacob was? And how can they be heirs when they break the most fundamental rule of the New Testament? Namely "Thou Shalt Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself" (Mark 12:31)?

It might be time for some more Bible study, people. Still, sometimes free speech can be ugly and offensive - that's the price of having those rights. And although I don’t know what God thinks of nerds, I draw the line at dudes dressed like Wonder Woman.


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Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

I always laugh when these guys run around saying things like "And it says in the Bible in plain English" or take quotes from the Bible saying it's the infaliable word of God. Here's why.

The Bible was not originally written in english. Add to that the fact that it was origiannly written thousands of years ago and there is simply no way that the Bible, as it appears in english, is exactly what was orginally written. Furthermore every translator probably had their own biases and viewpoints that influenced things. Even more, sometimes there simply is no such thing as a perfect translation. As an example, when someone is hungry in english they say "I am hungry". This is their present state of being. In spanish one would say "Yo tengo hambre". Literally translated what the person is saying is "I have hunger". It is possible to say "I am hungry" in spanish, it would be "Yo estoy hambre". But if you say that, due to the spanish grammar rules, you would actually be introducing yourself with your name being Hunger. And that's translating two live languages. With the Bible we're talking about translating a dead language.

Now, I'm not trying to say there is no God or that the Bible wasn't, at some point, His/Her/It's word. The problem is, we know man is not infaliable or even honest at times, and after thousands of years of editing, translating and tampering with the Bible, it can hardly be considered the "infaliable word of God".

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All that, and i'm pretty certain that if there is some sort of devine being, he/she/it is very, VERY sick of people with agendas speaking for them.

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Your argument makes perfect sense to a normal human being. 

However if I was thinking in their shoes, they would believe that god himself/herself/itself would be guiding the translators so that it was a perfect infalable translation.  And you not being faithful enough to realize that it was translated by god is blasphemous in itself.

FOR SHAME! Now go say 10 rosaries, eat ice cream until you get a brain freeze, and kick a unicorn in the balls for penance.  :P

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"FOR SHAME! Now go say 10 rosaries, eat ice cream until you get a brain freeze, and kick a unicorn in the balls for penance.  :P"

Rosaries and Penance? That's not their thing. Penance is done by catholics, orthodox, and anglicans. Rosaries specifically by catholics. Thanks for associating us with they guys that would sooner picket at our funerals, insult our members, and damn us all to hell with everyone else.

 

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

Easy now, he was kidding.

Besides, WBC members probably don't beleive in penance or reptanance as i ntheir world they do no wrong.

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Yeah, perhaps I did jump the gun a bit. It's just that, if one is going to joke about an offensive group, don't you think it would be better to get a joke on their thing, not a group they harass.

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

Sorry, I take back the comment about the penance.  I forgot how much they hate priests. 

Which is why I also added the the ridiculousness of kicking a unicorn in the balls.  In hindsight, I probably should have said to be kicked in the balls in the balls by a unicorn instead...  anyways....

They can't just kick out people who have sinned in their congregation because they'd have nobody left.  To say that they've never sinned is blasphemy in itself.  I'm kind of curious to see how they attone for sins in that church.  Would it be the same as any regular babtists church?

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Forget about it. I got too defensive over it.

They actually have no affiliation with any other Baptist Church. They call them out with everyone else. They claim to be based off of primitive Baptist churches, but those baptists reject them. They also seem to have some calvinist based beliefs ie: unconditional election.

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

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"The destruction of this nation is imminent - so start calling on Batman and Superman now, see if they can pull you from the mess that you have created with all your silly idolatry."

Sounds to me like pot calling kettle black. The only defference between the bible and a comic book is that they believe Jesus and God are real. And I don't think anyone has been killed in the name of superman. See doesn't feel good does it?

BTW I don't have a problem with religion, everyone is free to believe whatever works for them. I just have a problem with zealots who force their own ideals on everyone else and place blame where it doesn't belong.

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I think we all know what argument works with these dinks:

"There are no conditions for god...."

"You ain't got no pancake mix!"

"But god hates Superman and..."

"You're lying to these people! You ain't got no pancake mix!!"

"Jesus shall...."

"There's no pancake mix in there! You're decieving all these people!"

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwyZ0ji1GRU

 

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

Typical, angry christians (although I am one myself.) making idiots of themselves just to get their names in the papers. It's starting to become a escapegoat for famewhoring now.

What we got here is failure to communicate!

What we got here is failure to communicate!

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

I'd love to see how they respond to a Jesus cosplayer (Yes, they exist) or even better, the Buddy Christ from Dogma cosplayer I saw a few years ago.

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I'd give him the knotted rope so he can drive them away! (The hypocrites, not the nerds.)

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

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Or a coplayer of one of the many priests of anime.

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These guys have finally made a critical blunder though, and their days are numbered.

They just slammed the goddamn Batman.  I pity the poor fools...

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

Well, let's see, they slammed.....

Batman, Iron Man, Thor, Deadpool, Wolverine, Nick fury, the X-men, Superman, The Green Lanter, Captain America, Wonder Woman, Mario, Link, Vash the Stampede.....

 

that's the problem with blank statements, EVERYBODY gets covered.

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Protest has become their idol.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

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Yeah... Dudes dressed as Wonder Woman is not something you want to see every day.

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I would tell the WBC to go to hell, but that would be redundant I think.

So I recomend them come protest in Az.

It'd be funny to watch them sweating to death while the rest of us point and laugh from Air conditioned offices.

 

 

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Not to call Fred Phelps and his band of psychos "Hypocrites," but I did some research on Sodom and Gomorrah and from what I read, it was not Homosexuality, but rather Greed and Pride that did both cities in.  The actual bible quote of Sodom

Ezekiel 16:49-50 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fulness of bread, and careless ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before Me; therefore I removed them when I saw it.

You can read more about it at http://www.thesegladtidings.com/Sodom.html

What is a game?(throws wine glass on the floor and it breaks to pieces) A miserable little pile of secrets.

What is a game?(throws wine glass on the floor and it breaks to pieces) A miserable little pile of secrets.

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

Hmm, I get the feeling that they're running low on funds. How does this theory come about?

The WBC gets a huge amount of their funding from the lawsuits filed when someone they've antagonized retaliates. Lately, epecially with the aid of anti-WBC groups, their attempts have been largely fruitless. Gays aren't biting at their hand anymore, so they need to get a new group. Cue the term nerdrage. A group that gets enraged to the point of violence for little reason and, unlike a biker gang, isn't likely to destroy them outright. They push a nerd far enough, and they will fight back. As well, if they hit the right target, it's a massive windfall.

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The problem I see I think is that nerds aren´t an organization of any sort. Gays are organized, but so far nerds don´t need to fight for their civil rights.

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Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

As a Christian myself, as well as what many would call a geek or a nerd, it sickens me to see people claim to be Christians while attacking my hobbies.

Word to the wise: These people do not represent the majority view of people of the Christian faith.  They're yet another case of a small yet extremely vocal minority.  They misrepresent Christians and our faith, serving only to make us objects of ridicule.  Meanwhile, the real Christians are sitting at home, minding our own business, playing Team Fortress 2 with our buddies.  (Okay, not ALL of us, but you get the idea.)

Why do these people represent the public image of Christianity?  Because they're the ones being obnoxious.  It's newsworthy.  The news doesn't care about the reasonable ones who don't make a huge fuss, because that's not interesting.  These people so much as announce a protest and it's national news.

And because of the actions of the self-righteous, more people are driven away from the Christian faith.  It's a sad state of affairs, really, and it makes me disgusted to see anyone attempt to drive a wedge between the two groups that I most readily identify myself with.

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Here's an idea, go to their protest and have a Dungeons and Dragons and comic book read sit down right in front of them. They want to protest in the name of God, then we can protest in the name of nerds. This isn't the 1950's comic book moral panic scare anymore and I bet they won't expect us to express OUR free speech. ------- Veni, vidi, vici, I came, I saw, I conquered.

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Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

Odds are one of them would step forward, snatch it from you and rip it up, probably spit on it if you got it signed.

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

You know if someone is willing to take the bullet for this they can sue whoever took and ripped the comic for vandalism. It is withing thier legal rights to protest but when they start defacing and destroying private property it's tantamount to vandalism.

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Could also be assault charges I would think.

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Regular new comic book would result in an assualt charge against the person ripping it out of the guy's hand. At least I would think a violent gesture resulting in limited physical contact should be viewed as such.

A Gary Gygax signed 1st edition copy of an Advanced D&D Players handbook gets ripped up? Guraunteed assualt, attempted/murder, battery, arson, vigilante, and other such charges will definitely be thrown against the nerds from the resulting fallout.

I don't even want to think what would happen if they took some mint figures out their boxes and wrappings in front of that crowd.......

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A little light for them.

After that they would then remove collector's comics from their sleeves, smear dog crap all over them, then pile those and all the figures up, and probably snatch soemone's prop weapon, pile it up, douse it in lighter fluid and burn it, declarign they'll get ahold of everything in there and torch it too.

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I read this yesterday on Kotaku.  These groups really piss me off and they are starting to make an ass out of themselves.  why the hell are they attacking nerd?  Attacking nerd is so 1950 to 1970.  I find their point just stupid and confusing.

 

Off topic: Did you know in Florida, a mother wanted manga ban in the library because she claim it made her son different.  She even sent him to therapy.  The worse part she is paranoid as Jack Thompson.  I wonder if that means anime/manga are next to be scapegoated beside video game.  I wonder if anime haters on Youtube will make a video saying they'lll side with game-hating politicians because they attack anime/manga for them.     

 

 

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It would just be one new type of hater among dozens on youtube.

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

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We need the Sodomobile back!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_fAYl4Th4

@Gamepolitics: I think that sign actually is Photoshop´d.

 

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Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

I am officially adding this group to those who never grew out of picking on the different in school.

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I'd like to see the counter-protests. At this point they are getting desperate.

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Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

I remember the Veteran Bikers surrounding them on their rides at funerals and reving everytime they opened their mouths. I do not care how loud you yell, your NOT being heard over 25 Harleys with their tailpipes blasting in your face.

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Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

A friend of mine on LiveJournal posted this months ago about those assclowns protesting at Ronnie James Dio's funeral(and I do agree with the sentiment):

"These sons of bitches need to die. I'm not even kidding. Attempts within the legal system to get them to knock this shit off have all failed, it's time to just start blowing the heads off of dozens of them every time they show up. Maybe then they'll get the message."

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Agreed.  As much as they're actually asking to have exactly that done, that's really the only thing that they'll understand.  I can only guess the reason why the Federal Government hasn't stepped in or Child Protective Services hasn't tried to take the kids away despite the danger to their mental and physical well-being is because they don't want another Waco on their hands.  Like the Branch Davidians, the WBC live on a compound of sorts, and it's easy to imagine them behaving just as they did...with a similar outcome. :(

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Throwing insults at nerds, eh? I bet those geeks attending the convention won't know how to act. I mean it isn't like people give nerds a hard time for being nerds in their daily life. This will show the lot of them. [/sarcasm]

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God doesn't really hate me personally.  It's more like professional jealousy.

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When I was at the University of Kansas, Reverend Fred Phelps (of Westboro fame) brought a group of protesters and picketed in front of the student union during the Gay-Bi Awareness week.  My room-mate at the time interviewed him for a Political Science class.  The best part of the interview went something like this:

Roomie: Can you tell me why are you here protesting the Gay-bi awareness week?

Phelps: In the state of Kansas, sodomy is illegal.  By promoting acceptance of homosexuality, the school is promoting an illegal activity.  It has nothing to do with liking or disliking gays, it's just about the Law.

Roomie: Ok.  So... since over 70% of the student population is under 21 and can't legally drink, does that mean we shouldn't have an Alchohol Awareness week?

Phelps: That... well... I mean... it's totally different!

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I know that the WBC has their right to free speech.  But isn't their brand of speech categorized as fighting words (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words)? and would therefore not be protected under the first amendment?

I don't know much about US constitutional law, that's why I'm asking.

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Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

If anyone is going to start a fight, it'll be them and they'll cry victim if you fight back.

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Probably, although I haven't heard of anybody actually attacking those c***biting f***tards. It's bound to happen if it hasn't already.

Though the Circuit Court of Appeals that overturned Synder's victory in District Court(setting up their hearing before SCOTUS) cited the Larry Flynt v. Jerry Falwell case(which encompasses parody).

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra. Hell will stay frozen over for quite a while since the Saints won the Super Bowl.

Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Pelicans. Solidarity for the Saints = No retreat, no surrender. 2013 = Saints' revenge on the NFL. Even through the darkest days, this fire burns always.

Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

the following is counter-logic for the WBC, and should it offend you, treat it as valid as anything the WBC themselves would say:

the Westboro Baptist Church should read and follow Mark 16:17-18, especially the part about poison. also, in Matthew 19:16-17, Jesus denies himself as "being good". furthermore, in Revelation 22:16, Jesus calls himself the "morning star", which St. Jerome translated, in Isaiah 14:12, the Hebrew word for "morning star" into the Latin term "Lucifer" (light bearer), a name commonly ascribed to Satan by Christians, and represents the fallen star, an ancient symbol for the fallen or evil one. also compare I Chronicles 21:1 and II Samuel 24:1

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Re: Does God Hate Nerds More Than Stupid People?

The god hates people argument is a stupid argument made by ignorent people that hates other for no good reason. Plus if god was really hateful towards mandkind he would not have made us into his own image.  

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And I'm pretty sure God is sick of people liek these speaking up for him/her/it

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As a Christian, those people make me sick.  Despite their claims, they are not christians.

Also, Christians don't have problems with Harry Potter, Fantasy, SCi-fi, and all that stuff.  It's the two people who did that has lead everyone to generalize that all Christians do.  I for one love Harry Potter, Sci-fi, and fantasy, and so does my pastor.

They should follow the "hate the sin, love the sinner" concept, not the "Hate everything and everyone and condemn them all" idea.

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Attention nerds. Your are eligable to join the Association of Guys who get Crap from Westboro. Our members are homosexuals, soldiers, jews, catholics, methodists, presbyterians, lutherans, baptists, orthodox, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, liberals, conservatives, Bill O'Rielly, Heath Ledger fans, Lady Gaga, Lady Gaga fans,  Michael Jackson fans, and most if not all nations of the world. Join us as we unite in laughter against them.

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

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Adding to the list: John Stewart (and his fans), Steven Colbert (and his fans), Al Gore, the Clinton family, Mormons, and all people that could count as "fans" of every person they've ever protested the funeral of. 

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

 
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