NC Org Against Incentives for Developers of “Kill with Skill” Games

July 28, 2010 -

Not everyone, it seems, is a fan of the recently passed North Carolina tax incentives for videogame makers, film producers and other makers of interactive media.

The North Carolina Institute for Constitutional Law (NCICL) bills itself as a “nonprofit, non-partisan organization devoted to educating the public, bar, and policymakers about constitutional issues,” but what really seems to raise its hackles is “the granting by governmental entities of so-called ‘incentives’ in the form of taxpayers’ money being used for corporate welfare.”

The Raleigh-based organization came out against the recently enacted tax breaks in the latest issue of its newsletter, entitled Corporate Welfare Weekly, writing:

Oblivious to the fact that the U.S. Supreme Court is in the process of hearing arguments for a law that would ban sales of violent videogames to minors, North Carolina just approved an incentives deal for the industry. Last Thursday, Gov. Bev Perdue signed off on a bill that gives even more taxpayer dollars away, and this time it’s to video game producers. Apparently, North Carolina is now actively luring the video game industry to the state.
 
The signing ceremony was held at the Cary headquarters of Epic Games. Epic produces a variety of violent, “kill with skill” games such as Gears of War, Bulletstorm, and Shadow Complex.


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Re: NC Org Against Incentives for Developers of “Kill ...

>Last Thursday, Gov. Bev Perdue signed off on a bill that gives even more taxpayer dollars away 

...do these people even have any idea how a tax break works?

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Re: NC Org Against Incentives for Developers of “Kill ...

No they don't. If they did, they would not be complaining about them.

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: NC Org Against Incentives for Developers of “Kill ...

So they don't want a new influx of revenue, residents and jobs in their state, is what you're saying?

I suppose for them, having Epic Games bringing money into their state's economy is tantamount to dealing with Satan himself. How very narrow-minded of them.

Re: NC Org Against Incentives for Developers of “Kill ...

*blink blink* um err..... if you no like dun buy it...its one of the few quassi protected markets so it needs all the help it can get.


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Re: NC Org Against Incentives for Developers of “Kill ...

So are they against the incentives in general or are they just against them for "kill with skill" games?

E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma

Re: NC Org Against Incentives for Developers of “Kill ...

 Sounds like both.  I read their statement as 'government tinkering in the market is bad, this is esp bad because it is an evil market.

Sometimes I really miss the realpolitik concervatives.... there the only question would be 'can it be shown via historical examples that this will create more wealth for our region then it removes?'

 
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