GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

September 2, 2010 -

GameStop announced today that "out of respect for our past and present men and women in uniform we will not carry Medal of Honor in any of our AAFES based stores". AAFES, the Army and Air Force Exchange Service, is responsible for commercial sales on military posts and often includes outside vendors such as GameStop.

Based on the language reported by Kotaku, it appears that the request actually came from AAFES and is simply being honored by GameStop. From the email to GameStop employees earlier today, "GameStop fully supports AAFES in this endeavor and is sensitive to the fact that in multiplayer mode one side will assume the role of Taliban fighter."

While service members on military posts in much of the world will still be able to purchase Medal of Honor off-post, the 50,000 remaining soldiers in Iraq and the forces in Afghanistan, are out of luck. For some of the most dangerous theaters of operation, the ones where the stress relief of video games are likely most needed, there simply are no "nearest GameStop location[s] off base" for them to return to.

Interestingly, while Medal of Honor was pulled because players could assume the role of Taliban fighters, as of the time of this article, it was still possible to purchase Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 from AAFES stores, which featured a mission in which the player acts as a terrorist, shooting civilians in a Russian airport.


Dan Rosenthal is lawyer and analyst for the video games industry


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Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

"Well, hopefully this action was prompted by a unanimous decision by all the service folk.  I'd hate to think any of them are being denied the ability to decide for themselves what they do and do not want to play."

No, this decision was made by one person, the AAFES commander. But not to worry you can still pick up the latest Playboy or Hustler, stop in the Power Play (Electronics) section to get the latest SAW movie or maybe The Hurt Locker, then cruise down to the class-six store and get all the booze you want tax free.

God bless America

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Use the reply button.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Yeah, sorry about that. I'm a little rusty on posting in here again. Thanks for the tip

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

WTF?

Speaking as a person with over eight years of service and playing lots of other soldiers during that time and often against them  in coop play, playing Axis powers and fictitious baddies including terrorists, I dont think anyone I know would have an issue or take offense at playing against a person or team of people playing the Taliban. Shoot, one target is as good as any other for cryin' out loud.

Gettin' really sick of the PC movement to be frank. These type of games are about killing and killing lots of people and others worry about labeling and some sort of stigma crap?

Wow, just wow!!

If you dont like it dont buy but dont deny others the access because your narrow mindedness tends to make more out of somethin' than is there to begin with.

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Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

How about we set up a charity here and buy and send copies of Metal Of Honor to soldiers who want it? :)

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Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Well, hopefully this action was prompted by a unanimous decision by all the service folk.  I'd hate to think any of them are being denied the ability to decide for themselves what they do and do not want to play.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Over in the slashdot thread there was someone (claimed to be a soldier) saying that it was too 'risky' for soldiers to be allowed to play the game because they might have PTSD and not know it.

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Okay, but finding out by playing a video game would be vastly preferable to finding out on the battlefield, no?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

More to the point, wouldn't finding out over there, surrounded by people who can subdue you, be preferable to finding out when you're back home, surrounded by your wife and children?

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Heh.  Well, there is that bit of pramatism too.

Though mostly I was thinking that it was a rather nasty slippery slope to think private companies should restrict what they will sell soldiers based on the idea that some (theoreticly) might snap due to undaignosed mental damage.   I know if I was in the military it would piss me off.

If it was the military saying 'do not sell these games on our bases'.. ok, I could see that.. I would probably not agree with it, but in the end, the soldier's are the military's responsiblity and thus they have some standing on deciding what might be a bad idea.  EA?  Not so much...

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

I guess the claim that the soldiers are overseas fighting for Freedom doesn't mean fighting for THEIR OWN Freedom, even in part.

"...sensitive to the fact that in multiplayer mode one side will assume the role of Taliban fighter."
 

So, do the children of Police Officers play cops and robbers, and even play the part of the robber from time to time?  Or do the higher ups in the Police hierarchy demand that their officers tell their children they cannot play Cops and Robbers because it disgraces the Police force for an Officer's child to play the robber from time to time?

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Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

It must be nice to be so naïve.

"Cops and robbers" is a make-believe pastime for kids based on a real-life struggle that has existed for centures - as long as there's been civilization, there's been law and law enforcers.  We use "cops and robbers" to sell breakfast cereal.

"Taliban vs US Military" is a real, political, controversial war going on right the hell now, wherein people are dying.  It wouldn't be a stretch to say almost every single US serviceman and woman on these bases knows someone who has been personally affected by a bullet ripping through the flesh of one of their fellow soldiers, fired by a Taliban gun.

Are the folks on this site seriously so stupid as to make the suggest that GameStop, as a business, should stand by their guns when a joint military organization asks them not to stock a single game simply out of respect for those who might actually be fighting or--worse--wounded or bereaved by the war that game depicts?  Does your life consist of nothing but clicking furtively on the news feeds and waiting to rally your banner against the "Evil Censorshipz!!!" of two businesses making a friendly agreement?

It's not even like anyone's being hurt by this - as has been noted, it's trivial for any serviceperson with an Xbox to get the game off-base.  GameStop is choosing not to stock MoH out of respect.  If you can't see why that's a better decision for everybody, then maybe you should ask some of your family who are serving or suffering overseas.

Or do you have any, to inform your perspective...?

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

And someone has to be the "robber". 

By your own admission, playing a Taliban character would imply that the player is sympathetic to the Taliban side.

Yet, magically, playing a "robber" (or the side of evil in whatever game they choose to play "good" vs "evil") does NOT make them sympathetic to evil.

After all, GTA involves the player being the "robber" and shooting fictional police officers.  And other games allow the player to be the "cop" shooting the fictional bad guys.

Condemnation, however, DOES come when a player can assume the role of the "robber".

If you agree with the stand of those who say the ability to play "robber" in a computer/video game means the player is sympathetic to the "evil" side, at least then you'll be consistant, while at the same time killing your argument that "cops vs robbers" games aren't harmful as opposed to the "Taliban vs US Military" game.

If, however, you defend a game that allows a player to become the "robber", killing the fictional cops, then you are automatically dismissing the arguments made by police officers who claim to feel harmed by the ability of individuals to play those parts.  This, then, would condradict your argument that we should feel sympathy for real military personnel and not have the option to play as ficitional Taliban characters killing fictional US Military characters but not feel sympathy for real police officers and keep the option to play fictional bad guys killing fictional police officers.

And while there is no speaking of it, there is no evidence to the contrary that children may, in fact, be playing, in their backyards or in the parks, "US Soldier" vs "Taliban Terrorist".  And, again, SOMEONE has to be the "Taliban Terrorist".

Yes, thousands of years of outdoor "good" vs "evil" play.  Thousands of years ago, it probably wasn't "Castle guard vs criminal peasant".  It was more likely "Our Nation's soldiers vs their nation's soldiers".  And, again, SOMEONE had to be "their nation's soldiers".

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

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Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Naïve?

It is a game. Shoot using your line of thinking, movies about historical events should not be made.

Everyone I ever served with, without reservation, never considered the political dimension of the person on the business end of the weapon as it was not our job to do so.

An enemy is an enemy that has not changed since the dawn of time. The labels do and the ideology does but to a solider those things are irrelevant.

My job is to make as many of them die for their cause as possible until such a time that those people are no longer the flavor of the week target wise and my mission changes.

Taliban vs US Military is no different than Axis vs Allies or US Military vs Vietcong or Russia -etc... The political correct shenanigans shit really needs to stop.

As far as I'm concerned your perspective is antiquated, naive and absurd.

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Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Can't the soldiers order it from another store and have it sent? Or does the military check all incoming packages?

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

"Can't the soldiers order it from another store and have it sent?"

If they have internet access (or phone a friend or family) I suppose they could but I imagine the shipping and handling would be pretty steep.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Wrong. Just the same rate as domestic mail. (I think soldiers can receive packages while posted overseas using a military address. Postal office treat this as a domestic US address and the military will then forward it.)

Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

If shipped to a APO they can, but many retailers are not allowing some things like video games or DVD's to be sent to APO's when ordered over the internet.

Also as an FYI last time I checked, to send the package by USPS they require that you fill out a customs form for all APO addresses regardless of value, so thats not really true :/

~Weatherlight~

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Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Doesn't stop them from getting a friend to buy it locally and mail it to them.  That's probably the easiest way.

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Re: GameStop Stores on Military Bases Won’t Sell MOH

Pretty groovy if true.

 

Andrew Eisen

 
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