Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

September 10, 2010 -

In an opinion piece (which was originally published on GAMEbriefs), Nicholas Lovell takes the author of the recent SF Weekly expose on Zynga’s business practices (FarmVillains) to task for his tone. One passage in the article that really raised Lovell’s ire:

“At a time when traditional ‘console’ videogames -- the kind bought in a store and played on a computer or entertainment system such as a Sony PlayStation -- aspire to be classified as works of art, it might seem odd that such confections as FarmVille enjoy widespread attention and financial success. In 2007, for example, publisher 2K Games released a spellbinding console game, BioShock, in which players make difficult ethical decisions in an underwater city-state founded on the libertarian ideals of Ayn Rand.

Next to such immersing products, Zynga's games look cretinous.”

Lovell takes issue with this statement, calling it “snobbish arrogance” and follows it up with statistics on the popularity of Zynga’s games. After rolling out all those numbers, he says, “Gamers need to grow up.”

“So when will gamers stop sneering, stop hiding behind their bleating “but Farmville isn’t a game” and start realising that Zynga have done something that traditional games have never done.

They have made gaming something for everyone. Isn’t it time we applauded that?”

You can read the entire article at Gamasutra. The comments are also worth perusing.

Posted in

Comments

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

"Isn't it time we applaud that?"

Um, no, it is not.  What you have done is taken an exclusive medium of entertainment and COMMERCIALIZED it.  You have not broken ground on something amazing or breathtaking; you, Mr. Lovell, and your company have made something popular, not something unique.  You've merely brought a quasi-MMORPG to Facebook, much like colonists brought new and interesting diseases to the Americas.  In effect, you've merely tapped into a previously-unoccupied sector of the market.  This does not mean your game is "good," it means that it is "popular."

And popularity, my dear Mr. Lovell, is a fleeting thing in modern markets.  :)

"HEY! LISTEN!"

"HEY! LISTEN!"

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

He's pulling the "well I got more facebook friends than you do, so I'm right!" routine. Classy.

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

The problem that Mr. Lovell was talking about is real in that casual games are often bashed on quality, which really isn't fair. Think of it in terms of books, Stephen King doesn't write literary masterpeices (and sometimes his pacing is too slow for a snail) but still is respectable in its medium, or that trashy romance novels are written for a specific purpose.

But frankly that wasn't what the article was about, it was about Zynga's practices. To then say that the entire is wrong due to that one point of opinion is ludicrous.

Also:"They have made gaming something for everyone. Isn’t it time we applauded that?”

Heh heh...That sounds like saying that the "end justify the means"

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

Sure, buddy.  We should all praise everything that is popular, because that is the only possible criterion something can be judged by.  Thank you Stephanie Meyer for bringing vampires to the masses!  Thank you Transformers for bringing giant robots to the masses!  Thank you Taylor Swift for bringing country to the masses!  I am unable to criticize your works because they are popular!  Lucky you!

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

 Very much this

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

Both authors are guilty of bringing the casual gaming debate into a place it doesn't belong. This is supposed to be abount Zynga's terrible business practices, not about the effects of casual gaming on the more traditional audience.

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

So, popularity makes a game laudable, rather than actual quality?

 

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

oh suuuure, we can do that... OR we can blast this imoral company for it's disgusting buisness practices. Dont get me wrong, I'm all for more people getting into videogames, but we're talking about a game company that essentialy copied other developer's games and got away with it. I dont care WHAT the result is, you do NOT get away with plagarizing other people's work.

Nice try Lovell, but no Cigar.

Re: Op-Ed: Opinions on Zynga Suck

And racking up charges on people's phone bills.

 
Forgot your password?
Username :
Password :

Shout box

You're not permitted to post shouts.
Andrew EisenSleaker - Uh, yeah. Obviously.09/01/2014 - 8:20pm
Sleaker@AE - exclusives do not a console business make.09/01/2014 - 8:03pm
Papa MidnightI find it disappointing that, despite the presence of a snopes article and multiple articles countering it, people are still spreading a fake news story about a "SWATter" being sentenced to X (because the number seems to keep changing) years in prison.09/01/2014 - 5:08pm
Papa MidnightAnd resulting in PC gaming continuing to be held back by developer habits09/01/2014 - 5:07pm
Papa MidnightI find it disappointing that the current gen of consoles is representative of 2009-2010 in PC gaming, and will be the bar by which games are released over the next 8 years - resulting in more years of poor PC ports (if they're ever ported)09/01/2014 - 5:06pm
Andrew EisenMeanwhile, 6 of Wii U's top 12 are exclusive: Mario 3D World, Nintendo Land, Pikmin 3, Mario Kart 8, Wonderful 101, and ZombiU. (Wind Waker HD is on the list too but I didn't count it.)09/01/2014 - 4:36pm
Andrew EisenLikewise, only two of Xbox One's top 12 are exclusive: Dead Rising 3 and Ryse: Son of Rome (if you ignore a PC release later this year).09/01/2014 - 4:34pm
Andrew EisenNot to disrespect the current gen of consoles but I find it telling that of the "12 Best Games For The PS4" (per Kotaku), only two are exclusive to the system: Infamous: Second Son and Resogun.09/01/2014 - 4:30pm
MaskedPixelantehttp://www.joystiq.com/2014/09/01/beyond-two-souls-ps4-trophies-emerge-directors-cut-reported/ MMM MMM, nothing quire like reheated last gen games to make you appreciate the 400 bucks you spent on a new console.09/01/2014 - 4:24pm
Andrew EisenThat's actually a super depressing thought, that a bunch of retweeters are taking that pic as an illustration of the actual issue instead of an example of a complete misunderstanding of it.09/01/2014 - 4:20pm
Andrew EisenObviously, the picture was created by someone who doesn't understand what the issue actually is (or, possibly, someone trying to satire said misunderstanding).09/01/2014 - 4:10pm
Papa MidnightPeople fear and attack what they do not understand.09/01/2014 - 4:04pm
Papa MidnightWell, let's not forget. Someone held their hand in a peace sign a few weeks ago and people started claiming it was a gang sign. Or a police chief displayed the hand signal of their fraternity and was accused of the same.09/01/2014 - 4:04pm
SleakerEither people don't understand that what the picture is saying is true, or the picture was created out of a misunderstanding of what sexism is.09/01/2014 - 3:52pm
Sleaker@AE ok yah that's where the kind of confusion I'm getting. Your tweet can be taken to mean two different things.09/01/2014 - 3:51pm
Andrew EisenSleaker - No. No, not even remotely. The pic attached to my tweet was not made by me; it's not a statement I'm making. It's an illustration of the complete misunderstanding of the issue my tweet is referring to.09/01/2014 - 3:13pm
Papa MidnightIn other news, Netflix states why it paid Comcast: http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/29/technology/netflix-comcast/index.html?hpt=hp_t209/01/2014 - 3:10pm
Papa MidnightAndrew Eisen: Sites like Tumblr make things seem much bigger than they are. A vocal extreme minority start complaining and things go as they do.09/01/2014 - 3:09pm
SleakerAre you trying saying that specific costumes are sexist simply by being included in the game?09/01/2014 - 3:03pm
Andrew EisenSleaker - Seems completely cut and dry to me (of course, I wrote it so that's not surprising). What about it do you find confusing?09/01/2014 - 2:25pm
 

Be Heard - Contact Your Politician