Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

October 5, 2010 -

Tim Langdell will have to find a new target, according to an IndustryGamers report. The court battle between Electronic Arts and Langdell's Edge Games over the use of the term "Edge" has been tossed out by the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, San Jose Division.

Edge Games has filed several lawsuits against games and companies that use the term "Edge." The lawsuit against EA revolved around what Edge termed "willful infringement and unfair competition" in regards to EA’s Mirror’s Edge franchise. The suit sought a court injunction against EA’s "continued infringement" and included claims for treble damages.

The court sided with EA, and strongly admonished Langdell, according to Industry Gamers: The presiding judge said that "Langdell made fraudulent statements to the US Patent and Trademark Office and strongly believes that Langdell is 'suspect,' and has been 'trolling' the game industry for licensing opportunities. His actions could possibly warrant 'criminal penalties.'"

An unnamed EA spokesperson told IndustryGamers that it is pleased with the decision and that the company hopes that this decision will serve as a milestone against "nuisance litigation."

Thanks Andrew Eisen. Source: IndustryGamers


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Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

As someone who has been keeping an eye on this case, I am not surprised but very pleased at this. If you looked at his 'evidence' that he submitted, I am surprised the judge didn't just blink and smack him. Doctored or fraudulent is a severe under-statement.

Tim Langdell has made no friends, that can be said easily. During a brief email correspondence with him, I was apalled with his childish behaviour and lack of maturity. (Reminded me of my emails back and forth with John Bruce Thompson.) I sincerely hope during the countersuit that EA rips him open and exposes to the rest of the world (we already know how bad he is...) how much of a fraud, liar, and pathetic excuse of a patent troll he truly is.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

w00t!

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

I honestly would not have minded EA losing.   Yes yes, but I strongly dislike EA, their trade practices  (as such) and general disregard of the end user (you know their income base).  

That said.  Glad to see a troll put to the flames.  Regenerate that Mr Langdell :)

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

"Yes yes, but I strongly dislike EA, their trade practices  (as such) and general disregard of the end user (you know their income base)."

All of which is completely irrelevant.  They didn't break the law; they shouldn't be convicted of breaking the law.  Period.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Ah very good Thad, totally ignore the 2nd line ftw. 

I stated my opinion however.  I would rather EA not win anything else.  Imagine if they win the rights to the EDGE name on top of all the other game companies they are absorbed along the way.   Or maybe you like having DRM software (SecuRom etc), forced downloads/connection to their servers and maximum number of installs for your games.

Yet I am glad that Langdell did not win this case and hopefully will crawl away into a hole somewhere. 

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

"Ah very good Thad, totally ignore the 2nd line ftw."

The second line wasn't the part that I disagreed with.  I disagreed with the part about how EA should lose a case where it's right just because you don't like the company.  The fact that you also don't like the plaintiff really has no bearing on the case either.

"I would rather EA not win anything else.  Imagine if they win the rights to the EDGE name on top of all the other game companies they are absorbed along the way."

Unlikely.  They've got the Mirror's Edge trademark, but there's no evidence they're going after anybody else with "Edge" in the name of a game or company.

"Or maybe you like having DRM software (SecuRom etc), forced downloads/connection to their servers and maximum number of installs for your games."

See, Icehawk, THIS is what I'm criticizing: you're bringing up a bunch of completely unrelated points here.  What the fuck does SecuROM have to do with this case, exactly?

"EA should lose a trademark case because of DRM" is completely absurd logic.  Conversely, "If you think EA deserved to win this case, you love DRM" is equally insane.

"Yet I am glad that Langdell did not win this case and hopefully will crawl away into a hole somewhere."

And that's the crux of the verdict: he was wrong and EA was right.  And the install limit on Spore has fuck-all to do with that.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

There are still lawsuits that are active running through the court system right now.  EA has filed a countersuit against Langdell (EDGE Games) requesting that the court's order his trademarks over EDGE, Gamer's EDGE, Edge of Extinction, EDGE of EDGINESS, EDGE OF SANITY, EDGE EDGE EDGE EDGE & SPAM, etc. to be vacated.

This denial for an injunction by the judge against Langdell is a HUGE first victory.

And, yes, if Langdell can be found guilty of fraud, all of the various companies he's "licensed" the name "EDGE" to can sue for damages in civil court.  If the USPTO and a federal prosecutor wish to proceed, he can see himself hauled up on multiple criminal counts of fraud charges in a federal court.

I wonder if he'll flee to France like he fled Britain when the legal hammer started to come down on him there.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Do you happen to know if the counter suit is still in progress?  I think this ruling would be beneficial in completely stripping Langdell of any right he has to those trademarks.

Looking forward to seeing him burn.

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Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

The countersuit is going to trial in October 2011, so this whole slapfight isn't over by a long stretch.

But this is a HUGE blow to Langdell's case.  Langdell was looking for an injunction and in order for the injunction to be granted, the judge has to believe Langdell's case can succeed on its merits.  When the judge turns around and says you defrauded the USPTO and that all of your evidence was doctored, you're probably pretty screwed.

Additionally, Langdell claims he's sold "thousands upon thousands" of copies of various mobile games, so he should get to keep his trademarks.  Now that he's suing EA (and they're countersuing), this opens up a whole can of worms for Langdell in the discovery period.  EA will be able to request EDGE Games' corporate balance sheets for proof that income of these purported sales actually occurred.  What are the odds that those balance sheets will match up with Langdell's claims as well as EDGE Games' corporate income taxes?  (I'm guessing "zero point zero.")

Langdell is about to get trounced...it's just going to take the slow hand of justice some time to swing around on him (and it will be a full roundhouse punch when it gets there).

EDIT:  Something else to note.  Langdell had previously made a motion to dismiss EA's counterclaim (the one alleging fraud).  This has not yet been ruled upon, but I would have to guess the judge in that case will see the preliminary evidence and rule against Langdell.  That case is set for a jury.

Additionally, all actions at the USPTO have been suspended pending the outcome of this trial, which is solely a civil trial.  No criminal charges have been filed as of yet.

As I mentioned before, this is far from over.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Can we retroactively start referring to Soul Blade as Soul Edge now?  That always bothered me for some reason.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Though one side effect from this Edge muck.... I really hope a 'good' trademark case gets reported on sometime in the next few months.  I have seen a lot of viciousness twards the entire idea of trademarks and defending trademarks coming from the small time and indy crowd lately because of this, including a lot of misunderstanding about how trademarks work and how important they can be for protecting small companies.

The demonization of trademarks could really use a counterexample.....

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

You know, the 2G GSM data network is called Edge.  Maybe he should try his luck vs AT&T ...

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

I wish they had this resolution with the MOH critics. Anyways, I´m glad that Langdell didn´t get away from this. I hope he gets sued to oblivion.

 

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Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

For what?  There's no law against filing a trademark suit and losing.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Well, as others have said, there is the fraud aspect.

If Edge had actually been activly creating games then this case probably would have gone rather differntly... but in this instance he claimed to be activly using a trademark that he was not... so he did not just loose, he defrauded the trademark office.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Got it, thanks.

There's still the question of who's going to sue him.  I don't see EA taking a stand on this; they've got games to sell.  Would sure be nice, though.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Probably no one will actually bother sueing him, though any one of the companies he sued under the false trademarks would have grounds to.. so maybe someone will be bored or vindictive enough.  I wonder if he has any assetts to go after?

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Read this (everyone should if they're interested in the aftermath of this ruling):

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2010-10-05-what-the-langdell-vs-ea-ruling-really-means-blog-entry

Specifically:

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Who would the onus for pursuing that [civil or criminal legal action from the government] be on?

...For civil and criminal action, it would potentially be by law enforcement authorities directly - against Langdell or against Edge Games. All that we can say is this document was published on October 1, and on October 4 there was another, very short court document which requires EA to make available its evidence regarding the misrepresentation by Langdell. Now that's obviously going to be in connection with something, but we don't know what. I would imagine in the next few weeks we will see further developments on that front. EA may step out of the picture, but the regulators, the law enforcement authorities might step in. And that's pretty serious. This guy has been around in the industry for a while, he was formerly on the board of IGDA.
--

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

There is if it's filed under false or falsified information.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

How is this going to affect the release of MIRROR (a game by) EDGE? I must know!

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Was likely made up just so he could sue.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Now, can we get his ass thrown in jail?

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

On what grounds?  Are you going to plant drugs on him?

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

The judge sounded like the door is wide open for criminal charges.  Now it all depends on whose responsibility it is to actually pursue this avenue.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Going by the judge's comments, he could be investigated for fradulent activities pertaining to a public office, which is a criminal version of fraud. If found guilty, it could warrant jail time.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Ah, guess I skimmed over that graf; thanks.  Yeah, if a judge uses the word "fraudulent" that's serious business.

Good.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

This lawsuit had me on the edge of my seat.

oh, sh...

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Man, you like to live on the edge, don't you?

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

I fear these puns may not be edgy enough.

 

"That's not ironic. That's justice."

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Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Seriously.  They're in danger of being edged out when tougher competition comes along.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

 Man these stupid jokes are driving me to the edge of sanity.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Let's not let this drive a wedge between us.  I pledge to stop using that word.  I hope we can all acknowledge that the use of that word should be restricted to the ledgeitimate owner.  We mustn't dredge up old wounds like this.  It's like taking a sledgehammer to our common bond as gamers.  We should be coming together in peace, knowledge and understanding.

 

 

 

Edge.

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

 Ha finally! Ea won the battle, but the war won't be won until Langdell loosing his right to the term "edge" and isn't able to threaten anyone else by sitting on such a common term. But this should atleast set the precedent that companies can useto stand by future games. 

Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Finally something is being done with this pathetic troll.

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Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Figures it'd take EA to bury this asshole, good riddance.

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Re: Edge Games Loses Mirror's Edge Lawsuit Against EA

Langdell dug his own grave. EA just bumped him into it.

 
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