AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to Fathom” Arnie’s Motivation

November 1, 2010 -

Outgoing Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences (AIAS) head Joseph Olin, in discussing the Schwarzenegger vs. EMA case with Techland, begins by admitting that he, along with “most of the creative and financial stakeholders of the interactive entertainment industry,” were “mystified” that the Supreme Court decided to grant California's petition for writ of certiorari.

Olin also demonstrates at least a little grudging respect for California State Senator Leland Yee, stating that he doesn’t believe Yee is doing all this as “a grandstand play or because he has designs to be the next governor…”

“He did it because he fundamentally believes it,” said Olin, who continued, “But the other side, with Governor Schwarzenegger, I think there's definitely some politics in his involvement.”

Olin had some additional criticism for the Governator, stating:

He's been the lead in lots of films with violence that's no different than what's found in games. With this bill and the supposed violent video game issue, he doesn't necessarily gain anything politically in the short term, either, because he's not up for election. It's hard to fathom his motivation.

Much like Reed Smith LLP lawyer Patrick Sweeney, Olin worried about the impact a win for the state of California in the case could have on independent developers:

I think that the immediate effect is going to be a lot of independent studios choosing to be very cautious and the funding parties–whether they're publishers or independent financial arms–will really caution themselves about sponsoring M-rated games, or even T-rated games.


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Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

I could not disagree more with Olin's assessment of Yee. Yee is a power-hungry, manipulative, lying, slimy bastard that does not deserve to be respected by anyone.

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Ah poltiations...truly the lowest of life forms...


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Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

I do believe Yee thinks violent games are harmful to some extent. I also have the feeling that he's getting some generous contributions from Common Sense Media, which is based in his district of San Francisco, to pursue this legislation. Has anyone attempted to dig up whether and how much CSM has donated to Yee in the past?

Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

Yeah, let's find out how much that piece of shit James Steyer gave not just Leland Yee, but also Arnold Schwarzenegger as well.

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Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

He did it because he fundamentally believes it...

I really find hard to believe in that. I think he is more interesed on any possible political gain than in "protect the children from evil videogames" campaing. I just can´t see Yee doing it without nothing to gain.

 

 

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Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

Personally, I find that Yee's motivations are easier to grasp when you take the arguments he makes and try to apply them to something other than videogames. His complaints about the ESRB not being trustworthy in their ratings, for example. The underlying concern there is industry self-regulation, which has certainly shown itself to be lacking in other instances.

This doesn't mean the complaints are accurate -- you'd think a politician from California would be well aware that entertainment industries are capable of self-regulation when it comes to content ratings -- but they don't necessarily rise purely from glory-hogging either.

Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

I have a hard time buying the idea of someone truly believing in something they repeatedly lie about.  If you truly believe in something, you shouldn't have to lie to support that belief.

 

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Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

Well, we first need to go past the idea of whether he's willingly and knowingly giving false information, or just really ignorant. Then there's also the possibliy of him having some form of cognative bias. But lets assume he is lying. Think of it this way. It's possible (i'm not going to insist this as fact due to lack of information on Yee's exact thoughts), that the lying is justified as he thinks that the evidence for the the truth will come out, so it's then okay to lie, since eventually the "truth" will be shown to be correct, so why give the opposition a fair chance? I could go on with possible explainations ranging from elaborate forms of justification to just outright not really having a belief on the subject, but just doing it for political reasons, though I find the cognitive bias or justifications more likely. 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

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Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

Considering he has been twice corrected in court and has 9 other court rulings against him. Considering any study he has quoted or used has been called to question by other members of the scientific community. Considering he has received numerous letters from video game players.

I think he is lying through his teeth and he knows it.

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Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

On his lying

"Considering he has been twice corrected in court and has 9 other court rulings against him."

Could you give me specifics. Being corrected in court doesn't mean he's accepted the corrections as truth. I could use some specifics on what the corrections exactly were to make a better assessment. What were the court rulings? 

"Considering any study he has quoted or used has been called to question by other members of the scientific community."

Yes, and what's been his counter? Has he heard any of these voices of opposition to his quotes? Or has he just dismissed them without consideration? Has he created strawmen of his opponents? Again, take into consideration congnitive bias.

"Considering he has received numerous letters from video game players."

And considering that he's probably recieved his share of truly hateful mail, as well as intelligent gamers mail,  who do you think's probably the one that influences him on a personal level the most? This also affects his bias.

 

 

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Albert Einstein

Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

I think they feel like they need to, that it's justified, because the poor misguided people who disagree with them are obviously too stupid to see the rightness of the truth for themselves, so they have to be swayed by other means to have the correct opinion.  I see it in fanatics of all stripes, and it's pretty sickening.

That being said, I don't get that impression from Yee.  I think he's got a political ball and he's running with it.

Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

Like the Solomon Short quote goes: "Never justify anything.  If it needs justification, it's already wrong."

Re: AIAS Prez on SCOTUS Case: Respect for Yee, “Hard to ...

Yay, a fellow Chtorr fan!  My favorite is "Common sense isn't."  :)

Also, David Gerrold needs to finish the series already.  :/

 
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