Hal Halpin and several members of the Entertainment Consumer Association are on location at the steps of the Supreme Court this morning to support the game industry side of Schwarzenegger vs. Entertainment Merchants Association. Many members of the ECA are there (gamers!) showing their support with signs, chanting, and other displays of positivity. Below you can check out a few photos (click on the thumbnails for a better look).
[GamePolitics is an ECA publication.]
Technogeek: If the developer were male there wouldn't have been a "conversation" in the first place.10/19/2014 - 2:27am
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Monte: trolls are just at their absolute worst when it comes to women and feminist. You could bet good money that if the developer were male the trolls would be silent and the conversation would actually focus on the journalism.10/18/2014 - 9:18pm
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Monte: Papa: Not the first time we've had a journalism scandals before, but the harassment never got close to this level; the difference with this scandal is that feminists are involved. Without the feminist angle, their would be A LOT less harrassment10/18/2014 - 9:15pm
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Papa Midnight: Monte: That's honestly rather short-sighted. As has been proven with other persons who have been targeted, if it wasn't Quinn, it would be someone else.10/18/2014 - 6:26pm
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Avalongod: I think that's part of what gives an esoteric news story like this real life...it taps into a larger narrative about misogyny in society outside of games.10/18/2014 - 3:29pm
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Avalongod: @Monte, well the trolls made death threats that came to police (and media attention). I think this is tapping into a larger issue outside of games about how women are treated in society (like all the "real rape" stuff during the last election)10/18/2014 - 3:28pm
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Wonderkarp: Zippy : Havent tried the PS4 controller. might later.10/18/2014 - 2:37pm
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Monte: Seirously, If Quinn was not involved and GG was instead about something like the Mordor Marketing contracts, the trolling would have never grown so vile and disgusting. There have been plenty of movements in the past that never sufferred from behavior..10/18/2014 - 1:57pm
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Monte: We have seen scandel's before but the trolling has never been as vile as what we see with GG. Trolls usually have such a tiny voice you can barely notice them, but its like moths to a flame whenever femistist are involved.10/18/2014 - 1:53pm
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ZippyDSMlee: Wonderkarp: You might be able to if you had a PS4 controller.10/18/2014 - 1:00pm
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MaskedPixelante: http://store.steampowered.com/app/327940/ Night Dive starts charging for freeware.10/18/2014 - 12:21pm
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Matthew Wilson: the sad thing is there are trolls on both sides of this. people need to stop acting like their side is so pure.10/18/2014 - 12:19pm
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MechaTama31: So, only speak out on a scandal that hasn't attracted trolls? I wouldn't hold my breath...10/18/2014 - 10:49am
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Monte: I feel like GG just needs to die. The movement is FAR to tainted by hatred and BS for it to be useful for any conversation. Let GG die, and then rally behind the NEXT gaming journalism scandal, and start the conversation fresh.10/18/2014 - 10:33am
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quiknkold: and we dont have a Dovakin to call a cease fire10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: The whole thing is Futile. Both sides are so buried deep in their trenchs that there isnt a conversation. Its just Finger Pointing, Name Calling, Doxxing, Threats. there needs to be a serious conversation, and GG isnt it.10/17/2014 - 7:37pm
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quiknkold: I thought it was a good article. Jeff is right. I feel like GamerGate did destroy its message. I am for Ethics in game journalism, but man. so much hate. and its on both sides. I've seen some awful stuff spewed on twitter. Its a big reason why I exited..10/17/2014 - 7:34pm
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Matthew Wilson: while he focused on gg, he did call out both sides crap.10/17/2014 - 7:18pm
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Papa Midnight: That was a damn good read offered by Jeff Gertsmann.10/17/2014 - 7:17pm
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Matthew Wilson: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/letter-from-the-editor-10-17-2014/1100-5049/ deferentially a nice write up.10/17/2014 - 6:44pm
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Comments
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
All of this is all well and good but I don't see what it'll accomplish besides venting. The day the Supreme Court is at all influenced in ANY case by protests outside will be a terrible one.
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Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
Honestly, they need to be seen by the people around them. Just as some of us try not to hide our love for games and our involvement in the gaming community, even at the risk of being talked down upon or treated like a child to some people (happens to me at my job alot, especially today because to them if it's not "Obama must go!" then it's just me being stupid and childish), these individuals need to make a scene that others will notice in the middle of the political machine called Washington. People need to see that we are serious about this and how it will change things not just for us, but eventually everybody involved with the partaking or creation of media.
Zen aka Jeremy Powers, Host of the ZensPath Podcast
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Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
Nothing wrong with a good vent. The purpose, I feel, of this event is not to sway the Supreme Court but to expose those who are not aware or are there for California to the people this law would affect.
E. Zachary Knight
Oklahoma City Chapter of the ECA
http://www.theeca.com/chapters_oklahoma
E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming
OK Game Devs
Random Tower
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Indeed. This doesn't end with the Supreme Court. Even in a best-case scenario where the justices broadly rule that games are speech and violence cannot be restricted in the same way as pornography, even if they put a stop to legislation like this once and for all, we're still looking at spending the next decade fighting in the court of public opinion. Games will still be vilified six months from now, next year, five years from now, regardless of what happens here.
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
Kotaku has pictures of fucking cosplayers in attendance. Please tell us that they are an unnoticeable minority.
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
There ws wonly one person there dressed as Mario. That was the extent of the cosplay. Everyone else was dressed normal.
Oh, and my fiancee and I were in 3 of the 6 pictures there (I'm the bald guy in the black leather jacket. She's the one in the brown jacket.) Nice work, GP!
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Oy, enough. They went and stood for what they believed in while practicing their own rights. What did you do exactly?
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
Dressing up as videogame characters on the steps of the SCOTUS is counter-productive and makes gamers look just like the immature losers the mainstream media sees them as. Remember the backlash over the cosplay rally for an R18+ rating in Austrailia? The same applies here. If you're going to rally to convince that games should be treated seriously, don't dress up like a cartoon character.
Oh, and good job on the personal attack. You must be very proud.
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
"of fucking cosplayers"
Right. Because you definitively did not attack them. I believe you can go do to yourself what you seem to think of them.
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
Now at some of the other political rallies that have occured in Washington and other parts of the country, people have dressed as the Founding Fathers or other political figures from history and it was viewed as ok and as a visual way to get a point across. I honestly see no difference if someone is dressed as Mario and using their right to say, and represent, what they believe. They are there for the sakes of all of us gamers that wanted, but could not attend this even either because of money or other factors. This is a case that while some take lightly because it's about videogames, really could have a severe effect on our way of life for the hobby that we all embrace and live by. So I believe that anybody that is there to show support, in their own individual ways, helps us. Because they believe that just kids play videogames...this shows them that EVERYBODY plays videogames.
Zen aka Jeremy Powers, Host of the ZensPath Podcast
www.ZensPath.com/WordPress
Xbox Live Gamertag: "Zen of the Dark"
PSN Gamertag: "Zenspath"
Wii System Code: "4919 8280 4221 9114"
Zen aka Jeremy Powers
Editor and Host of the Zenspath Podcast (now on iTunes)
www.ZensPath.com
XBL: "PsychoticZen" PSN: "Zenspath"
Nintendo Network: "Psychoticzen", 3DS: "0860-3238-7260
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
"Now at some of the other political rallies that have occured in Washington and other parts of the country, people have dressed as the Founding Fathers or other political figures from history and it was viewed as ok and as a visual way to get a point across. I honestly see no difference if someone is dressed as Mario and using their right to say, and represent, what they believe."
The difference is in perception. The general public doesn't see dressing up like Thomas Jefferson as being as silly as dressing up as Mario. I don't happen to agree with that assessment, but it's a common one.
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
I understand the perception that some people will have about that, but I still believe they have as much a right to be there as the others, perception be damned lol. But I do see your point as well, so we have common ground on that as well.
Zen aka Jeremy Powers, Host of the ZensPath Podcast
www.ZensPath.com/WordPress
Xbox Live Gamertag: "Zen of the Dark"
PSN Gamertag: "Zenspath"
Wii System Code: "4919 8280 4221 9114"
Zen aka Jeremy Powers
Editor and Host of the Zenspath Podcast (now on iTunes)
www.ZensPath.com
XBL: "PsychoticZen" PSN: "Zenspath"
Nintendo Network: "Psychoticzen", 3DS: "0860-3238-7260
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
I don't think anybody's disputing their right to do it, just whether it's a good idea.
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
That's a fair argument.
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
He's complaining on an Internet comment thread, which as we know is the solution to all of the world's problems. If only the UN paid attention to Fark, there'd be no more wars.
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Fangamer
Fangamer
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
I´m totally agree with Zerodash here. Cosplayers have nothing to do there. It´s completely unnecesary. It´s a political rally, not the Comicon.
Now, if I just could find that webcomic about the Australia cosplay rally to illustrate this...
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Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
...you DO realize that Americans dressing in funny costumes at protests goes back at least as far as the Boston Tea Party, right?
Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
I don´t know what they dresses on average political rallies or how common is to wear funny costumes on them, but in this case, having a fat guy dressed as Bayonetta can´t be a good thing or even appropiate, as many more thought about that other cosplay protest on Australia.
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Re: ECA SCOTUS Rally Scenes
Then why the fuck are you here, hypocrite.