Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

November 10, 2010 -

In response to Microsoft’s recent Xbox Live dashboard update, which added the ability for parents to limit non-game content such as downloaded movies and television shows on a per-user basis, CNN took a look at the current state of other measures designed to keep kids from viewing content that perhaps they shouldn’t be.

The article focuses mainly on “age gates,” or content that is hidden behind a screen in which users must input their birth date. Obviously such obstacles are easily overcome by any mouse-wielder, regardless of age.

Sony’s PlayStation 3, the author writes, “doesn't appear to let owners lock content downloaded from Sony's digital store or those manually loaded onto the console,” like its Microsoft brethren now does. In reply, Sony’s Vice President of Marketing Peter Dille said that “We’re all doing something similar,” adding that Sony complies with the Child Online Protection Act (COPA).

James Schmidt, a retired professor and former member of the now-disbanded COPA Commission, answered Dille's claim, saying, “To say they [Sony] are complying with COPA is a nonsensical statement.” Schmidt said that the Commission determined that there was no “technological means” to protect kids online and that age verification schemes were “were so patently transparent that they were of no use.”

The ESRB asks participating videogame-related websites to install a browser tracking device that would not allow a user to access a website upon failing to meet an age gate’s standard.

GameTrailers.com, however, has declined to implement such a device, because, according to the site’s Shane Satterfield, that barrier was “a little more extreme than we had wanted…”

For her part, ESRB Chief Patricia Vance added, “We can't prevent kids from lying about their age. The important part is that we aren't inappropriately marketing these games to children.”

Schmidt outlined what the COPA Commission eventually surmised about the situation, “We believed first and foremost that the responsibility for monitoring access to content on the internet lies with parents and legal guardians.”


Comments

Re: Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

So now they are trying to censor or block the videogame websites? Great job GT for telling them to politely go fuck themselves

 

This however has got to stop, we need to tell these nanny-statist to shut the fuck up.

 

IMHO of course.

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Re: Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

Not exactly "censor," just allow parental control software to recognize certain material as something to block.  If mommy and daddy haven't activated the child locks, then nothing would be inhibited.

Re: Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

Are we talking about COPA or COPPA here? There is a huge difference-the former is a content restriction that was ruled unconstitutional and no longer relevant, while the latter is the privacy protection measure that is still in effect.

Re: Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

Age gates are dumb unless they are incorporated by a password in the paternal controls.


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Re: Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

Age gates are perhaps the dumbest most ineffectual child protection measure in existence.  Seriously, has any child anywhere ever been stopped by an age gate?  Hell, I don't even put in my true age; I just open the "year" drop down and give the mouse wheel a good spin.  I usually end up being born in the sixties.

Age gates are nothing more than a nuisance to people who want to watch the damn video.  Get rid of them.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

Is anyone actually arguing that age gates effectively prevent minors from entering sites?

It's a liability issue, nothing more: if a minor lies to get around an age gate, it's not the site owner's fault.

I'll grant it's all terribly silly, but I think it's a necessary CYA from the content providers' perspective.

Re: Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

"Is anyone actually arguing that age gates effectively prevent minors from entering sites?"

I should certainly hope not.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Ex-COPA Commissioner: Parents > Age Gates

Come to think of it, it doesn't just shift liability, it's also an end run around the "children can see/hear it by accident" argument, which was key in the Seven Words case.

 

 
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