AZ State Senator: Violent Culture and Abortion to Blame for Tucson Shooting

Arizona State Senator Linda Gray recently said that the Tucson shootings weren’t caused by lax gun control laws, but a culture of violence.. and abortion. Yes, you have read that right, ABORTION. She later distanced herself slightly from her comments. How abortion factors into the equation I’m not sure, but politicians do so enjoy tying irrelevant things to tragedies to score political points..

"The problem is not the gun, but about respect for all human life, from the unborn, a 9 year old child, a senior citizen or a political leader," Gray told Raw Story, by e-mail. "The shooter had no respect for the value of any these innocent citizens who were injured or killed."

"Our children are bombarded with TV programming showing a multitude of killings," she continued in the e-mail. "Children are given games to play in which they earn points for killing people. Where are the TV programs that promote good role models? … Children are becoming more desensitized and complacent toward their own violent acts and those of others."

Gray backed off a comment she made a week ago on GWU Radio’s "Political Pulse" program, tying the Tucson killings to the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling.

"My lead comment when asked what are lawmakers going to do about stricter gun control was, it begins with respect for human life," she said. "There is no connection to the Tucson Tragedy and the court decision of Roe v Wade. The comment was focused on respect for all humans, including the unborn."

Arizona’s gun laws are not very strict and the level of checks and hurdles purchasers face may have had something to with Jared Loughner’s easy access to a legally purchased handgun. For one, state law does not require permits to purchase a handgun, shotgun, or rifle and background checks only look for individuals convicted of a crime or found to have a mental illness by a court. The state also lets people carry concealed weapons in public without a permit, and allows guns in bars.

Source: Raw Story

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  1. GoodRobotUs says:

    What caused the killings was the sad fact that a very disaffected and sick young man passed under the Radar, felt isolated and ignored and snapped.

    Trying to use this tradgedy to promote her own personal beliefs is extremely poor judgement, neither movement is relevant. She is correct that respect is a key, but the problem is that more and more people are adopting a Mobster view of the word ‘Respect’, i.e. that it means ‘Doing what I tell you’. Even politicians are falling into this trap.

    Indeed, I wouldn’t be surprised if Loughner considered Senator Gifford to have ‘disrepected’ him in her response to his questions during their previous meetings. In fact, during an interview with his ex-Girlfriend she stated that what usually used to ‘set him off’ was talking about Politics and the Government in general.

  2. hellfire7885 says:

    It’s like they just have dart boards with hot button issues taped to it and decide whatever they hit is the cause.

  3. joes says:

    Not to mention that when we look at war or violent crime, all we do is reduce it to numbers anyway. We hear 5,000 killed vs 10,000 enemies, 205 executed…it may be a stretch, but kids learn about real life through point systems of all kinds.

  4. edmoss87 says:

    It’s less common, but some games do give point scores, e.g. CoD multiplayer, GTA4 (albeit hidden in the menus). However, a point score is still just an arbitrary number and not really a reward in any meaningful sense. Do you remember the score, or the fact that you won the round / saved the day?

  5. gellymatos says:

    Actually, on that note, some rather bad news then. Bulletstorm may become such a target of antigame legislation. And the point argument would then be relevent. You see, the game give points on the creativity of kills. I mean, I’ve seen the demo (with intentions to play it myself). Seems fun as hell. But, I predict it may become an issue.



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  6. MonkeyPeaches says:

     (sigh) again with the claiming video games give you points for violence, most video games don’t even have points anymore.

  7. Kajex says:

    Indeed. In a time where there are scarcely as many crime problems compared to years before, the media and politicians alike need to highlight what little exists as the causes of all social ills.

    Otherwise, they’d have to actually do some work.

  8. Craig R. says:

    Not to mention her assertion that humanity is only NOW violent in recent history or something.

    Sorry, lady, but humans have been violent from the start.

  9. sirdarkat says:

     Thank you … I find it funny that they often claim this Culture of Violence even though crime is going down.  Disinformation is fun.

  10. Neeneko says:

    Yeah… all that disrespect for human life has resulted in the lowest violent crime statistics in 60 years…

  11. Andrew Eisen says:

    I think you mean high-capacity magazine but I agree, crazy people should not have guns.


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  12. E. Zachary Knight says:

    No. It was mentioned in a context about reasons people do not value human life. Not valuing human life is what was linked to the shooting. You could say she was drawing that line, but that reasoning is more akin to 6 degrees of seperation than a one to one connection.

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  13. Thad says:

    Jared Loughner’s actions were his own, and he needs to spend the rest of his life in a cell.  But there were other factors in play here.  The man clearly seems to be mentally ill, and he should have gotten treatment — institutionalization if necessary.

    And contrary to Gray’s comments, there’s a much clearer line from "gun" to "shooting people" than "abortion" to "shooting people".  Loughner should not have been allowed access to firearms or high-capacity rounds.

  14. BearDogg-X says:


    Geaux Saints, Geaux Tigers, Geaux Hornets, Jack Thompson can geaux chase a chupacabra. Hell will stay frozen over for quite a while since the Saints won the Super Bowl.

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  15. Andrew Eisen says:

    Jared Loughner is to blame for the Tuscon shooting, no one and nothing else.  Not a culture of violence.  Not abortion.


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  16. Thad says:

    She mentioned abortion in the same sentence as a completely unrelated tragedy.  That’s some pretty odious politicking right there.

  17. E. Zachary Knight says:

    I don’t know, even with the lead in in this article, the message behind her comment was pretty clear. We don’t have a very strong culture of respect to people.

    I really don’t understand why everyone is complaining about that quote. It doesn’t blame the shooting on abortion or even esuggest the idea.

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  18. Thad says:

    No, you’re thinking of Governor Jan Brewer.  Who was reelected in a walk.




    EDIT/afterthought: "Reelected" isn’t really the right word; she was elected to a second term as governor.  She was not, however, elected to the office for her first term; she assumed office after Janet Napolitano resigned to become Secretary of Homeland Security.  Arizona has no Lieutenant Governor; Brewer was Secretary of State, the next office in the chain of succession.

    (Ironically, in this past election Brewer supported an initiative that would have changed the Secretary of State to Lieutenant Governor and ensured that both offices would run on the same ticket — had this been in effect in 2008, Brewer would not be Governor.)

  19. Arell says:

    Isn’t this the same woman who insisted that there was a steady stream of beheadings being commited by illegal aliens along the border during the last election cycle?  I seem to remember an Arizona politician who had a problem with spouting unsubstantiated ridiculousness whenever a media camera was pointed at her.

  20. Thad says:

    "stupid comments like this should get this lady on the fast track to the unemployment line."

    Yeah, but this is Arizona.  Stupid comments are the best way to run for higher office.

  21. sirdarkat says:

     For the love of all that is holy … I wish thee well on your Sojourn … May you succeed and perhaps we can have the horror of the Shore removed from the annuals of our histories. 

  22. Zerodash says:

     This is just as batshit insane as the Conservative assertions that atheism leads to Nazism.  As much as I agree that guns don’t have this magical ability to turn normal people insane, stupid comments like this should get this lady on the fast track to the unemployment line.  

    Every goddamned day, this shooting rampage has more and more agenda-pushing bullshit placed on it.

     I personally don’t like The Jersey Shore, so now I’m off to find a way to link that show to the shooting- wish me luck!

  23. nightwng2000 says:

    It merely looks like she was tying in a variety of Human Life issues at different developmental stages of Human Life, and the various views that different segments of society have towards those different stages of Human Life.

    We, as Humans, fail to recognize scientific fact over religious beliefs over personal superiority over others.  And, in so doing, lead to rather conflicting views about the value of Human Life, or even what denotes Human Life.


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  24. babyhenchy1 says:

    Okay, while I fully agree that abortion is wrong, I fail to see any connection in this case. Did Gabrielle Giffords try to have the shooter aborted?

    And again we have the same out of touch politician blaming violence in movies and games for the actions of an obviously mentally unstable man. As Jon Stewart said the only person we can blame for this tragedy is the shooter himself.

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