Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' Developers

March 18, 2011 -

Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime says that his company will not be doing any business with what it calls "hobbyist" and "garage developers" going forward. While Fils-Aime is quick to point out that he still wants to do business with indies who want to publish games on Nintendo platforms, he points out that the hobbyist and garage game developer crowd - the same crowd that creates small apps for platforms like iOS and Android - no longer have a place at the table.

"I would separate out the true independent developer vs. the hobbyist," Fils-Aime told Gamasutra. "We are absolutely reaching out to the independent developer. Where we've drawn the line is we are not looking to do business today with the garage developer. In our view, that's not a business we want to pursue.

"Look at the music industry. There are certainly highly talented people who work other jobs and have a passion to be in the music industry. They work at it. There are reality TV shows that revolve around this concept. I love it when there's a game that's found that captures people's imagination, just like that...singer toiling in a factory."

Fils-Aime is echoing comments made by Iwata during his GDC keynote, where he took a shot at Apple and its endless ocean of apps and games. He accused Apple of not having a stricter quality control process.

Source: GI.biz


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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Minecraft was made by one person so wouldn't that count as a garage/hobbyist developer?

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

He's hired more people since he started bringing in money.

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

How come all I see is "Nintendo NEEDS to do" this, and "Nintendo NEEDS to do" that? What Nintendo NEEDS to do is whatever they've been doing for the past 4 years. They've already won the console war for this generation. They've already proven they don't need 3rd Party support. They've already proven they don't need "adult" games. They've already proven you don't need cutting-edge technology, or even high-definition graphics. I own all 3 current-gen systems, and I'd get rid of my PS3 or my Xbox if I had to make a choice, before I got rid of my Wii. Sure, graphics are nice, but fun and gameplay are where it counts, and right now, Nintendo has plenty of fun games. And with the 3DS right around the corner in the U.S., it looks like they're going to be dominating the handheld market again for the next generation.

"Power means nothing without honor and pride."

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Nintendo is very far off the mark from "winning" the console war for this generation.

The Wii is crap compared to the PS3 or 360 in specs and support, has fewer games and more shovelware bloat.  Your anecdotal evidence supports nothing other than your desire for the system.  I could easily counter with my own claims that my Wii is gathering dust (which you would obviously dismiss since it doesn't fit your worldview) and what then?

Just because everyone buys McDonalds hamburgers doesn't mean they're better than a steak.

 

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

I believe he's basing "winning the war" on number of consoles sold.  If that's the case, then yeah, Wii won by a landslide.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

It could be based off several things, and Nintendo could come out on top. But yes, generally, consoles sold is the main factor in determining the leader of consoles.

And I understand that not everyone likes the Wii. Conejo was right in that the Wii is inferior to Xbox and PS3 in terms of specs and 3rd party support. But wouldn't the fact that despite that, the Wii is still outselling both other systems solidify my point? I already said this earlier. Nintendo doesn't NEED specs OR support. It's doing just fine as it is.

Aside from that, if the Wii really was crap, would there be a Move or a Kinect? I highly doubt it. The PS3 didn't even have SIXAXIS controls until the Wii was unveiled and everyone went all goo-goo over it.

Sincerest form of flattery, indeed.

"Power means nothing without honor and pride."

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

I think some of the Wii's sales are padded by the fact that nearly every retirement home has one.  Nintendo waved by by a gamers and started pandering to everyone else.  Mind you I am a little regretful I sold my Wii.  With the virtual console it was the best emulator I've ever owned.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Oddly enough, most of the Wiis in hospitals and retirement homes are donated. Any other excuses as to why the "superior" systems still can't catch up to the Wii in sales?
"Well, the Wii is just for kids."
Honestly? Is that the best you can come up with? Surely a hardcore gamer's system with High-Definition graphics, lots of M-rated titles, and comptetitive online multiplayer could outsell a mere "child's toy", right? 

Grasp at more straws, why don't you?

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Because, again, the system is pandering to everyone EXCEPT gamers.  It has found popularity amongst the Angry Birds/Famville community.  Hell, my brother owns one, and he hasn't owned a system since the NES.  But they realized it's quality to make everyone look like retards at parties.  As for everyone who made Nintendo who they are, and were then betrayed by Nintendo, we have moved on to the PS3 and 360.

It is just like all of the talented musicians out there being outsold by Justin Beiber.  Crap sells and sells well.  Just as I would be willing to bet that Farmville has more total playtime on it than Mass Effect, but I would still bet that GAMERS would prefer Mass Effect to Farmville don't you?

I will admit that the Wii does have 3 or 4 good games.  But after you get past Mario and Zelda you are buried under an Endless Ocean of crap like Nintendogs.

For a gamer, at best, the Wii is a supplement system to one of the other two.  But most serious gamers are not going to want to miss out on titles such as the Grand Theft Auto series, Fallout, Bioshock, InFamous, Uncharted, Red Dead Redemption, Little Big Planet... on and on and on.

I really can't fault Nintendo for what they are doing.  They are a business after all and therefore all that matters is their profit.  Were I in their position and I could make a little money selling a good product or make a lot of money selling crap, then I would sell crap.  So what they are doing is just good sense.

So why does the Wii do so well?  Because there are a lot more non-gamers than there are gamers.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

But for the sake of giving credit where credit is due I decided to compile a list of games I would play on the Wii.

Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Twillight Princess, Super Paper Mario, No More Heroes

But honestly, that isn't enough games to hold me over for so much as a year.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Now let's compare my list to the list of games I own/want to own on the PS3 (which I don't like as much as my 360)

GTA4, Uncharted, Uncharted 2, Little Big Planet, Little Big Planet 2, Red Dead Redemption, Bioshock,  Bioshock 2,  Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, Killzone 2, Killzone 3, Batman Arkham Asylum, Dead Space, Deadspace 2, Heavy Rain, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, Marvel vs. Capcom 3, Just Cause 2, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Borderlands, Dead Rising 2, Infamous, Infamous 2, Demon's Souls.

And again, not my favorite system! 

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Granted, I love my PS3 and Xbox 360, but the variety is somewhat limited. Xbox has little outside of generic first-and-third-person shooters, and the PS3 has a few platformers and RPGs. If you only like one or two genres, that's fine. But don't say Nintendo abandoned gamers just because they don't have as many gore-filled death-fests as the Xbox. And don't presume that YOUR standards are the baseline for what determines what a "Gamer" is.

If anything, Microsoft abandoned gamers because unlike Sony or Nintendo, they can't be bothered to hire a decent QA department. I've gone through 4 elites now.

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

"Granted, I love my PS3 and Xbox 360, but the variety is somewhat limited."

Really?  Because that is what I say about the Wii, without the love part.  Maybe if I was pre-puberty I could squeal over the technicolor and sacharine games.  But I'm not so I can't.

And NEVER assume that Zynga bullcrap is anything close to something a gamer would like.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

There you go again, assuming you decide what a gamer will, and will not like.

I hate Zynga as much as the next guy, but there's no denying that FarmVille is extremely popular. You don't get to decide what makes a gamer any more than I do. By the same token, you don't get to decide what does and does not make a game good any more than I do. Sure, I run a game review site, but I'm not trying to push my opinions as fact, I'm merely stating facts about a game, as well as my opinion.

You, sir, do NOT speak for the gaming community. Especially not with that condescending attitude.

For the record: Xbox sucks.

"Power means nothing without honor and pride."

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

"You don't get to decide what makes a gamer any more than I do."

Bullshit.  I think I've put enough time and money into it where I have earned the right to say that the Farmville, Wii Fit, Angry Birds upstarts is a completely different fold from actual gaming.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Okay, we'll use your logic.

I've put enough time and money into it where I earned the right to say that the Xbox is a poor, inferior system that doesn't cater to real gamers, since all they make are the M-rated shooters that only appeal to 12-year-old kids that shouldn't have them in the first place.

God, I'm so mature, surely I'm respected by everyone.

"Power means nothing without honor and pride."

http://grifsgamereviews.blogspot.com My video game review site.

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

And your suggestions is that we play the games designed for the 12 year olds instead?  Please.  Oh sure, I'll give up Mass effect so I can play a Disney colored waggle carnival fest on the Wii, sure.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Mass Effect was a great game. But you shouldn't base the quality of a game because of how it looks.
Pokemon was designed for kids between 8-12, but the average Pokemon player is closer to 18-22. And it has remained, for 15 years, the most popular franchise in the world. You don't have any branches of Microsoft in one of the world's largest cities dedicated to Halo or Gears of War, do you?

"Power means nothing without honor and pride."

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Pokemon is like Pop music, pulls in a lot of money but is pure shit.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Hint: Pure shit doesn't pull in money for 15 years. Grow up.

"Power means nothing without honor and pride."

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Hint: And yet we still have pop music

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

If you like those games, there are lots more great Wii games along those lines.  No More Heroes is pretty unique but the other games are the Wii's bread and butter.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

It was getting narrow up top.

But for laughs lets compare the top ten of all three consoles based on Metacritic

360: GTA4, Bioshock, Orange Box, Mass Effect 2, Red Dead Redemption, Gears of War, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, Modern Warfare 2

PS3: GTA4, Uncharted 2, Little Big Planet, Red Dead Redemption, Call of Duty 4, Modern warfare 2, Bioshock, Mass Effect 2, Street Fighter 4, MGS4

Wii: Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Twillight Princess, World of Goo, SSB Brawl, Rock Band, Rock Band 2, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Resident Evil 4, Okami

Need more be said?

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Yeah. A point would be nice.

"Power means nothing without honor and pride."

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

See reply here

"That's fine.  You're just wrong."

Yeah, I think I would know a little bit about what I would like and what I wouldn't like.  And I can tell you that the games you mentioned just aren't up to snuff.

And it's frankly insulting that you would even try to say that I would like those games.  You might as well go around saying that I like to eat out of dumpsters.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Gez man there's no reason to overreact over a list of suggestions like this. Its not like Mr. Andrew is forcing you to play the games. 

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Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

I would be just as insulted if someone said: "You have no taste in music.  Have you considered listening to Justin Beiber?"

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

I'm not arguing what you would or wouldn't like.  I'm saying that the games I mentioned are right in line with the ones you mentioned.  Whether you like them or not is totally up to you.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

And if they were, I would like them.  But it really bristles me the wrong way how you keep saying "Oh, well since your standards are so low here is some more garbage you might like garbage eater."  It frankly irritates me.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Well, then don't let things I didn't say irritate you.  That's just silly.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

I really don't have control over such things.  If I did have control over what did and didn't irritate me then I would never be irritated.  Were that the case I would probably be wearing hemp and playing a ukelele in some commune somewhere.

By suggesting those games it was just insulting, no matter how you worded it.

You insinuated that I might like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yX1-L5IUAI

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

"You insinuated that I might like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yX1-L5IUAI"

Good lord that does look awful!  Good thing that's not one of the games I listed.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

"Good lord that does look awful!  Good thing that's not one of the games I listed."

 

"Wario Land: Shake It!, Donkey Kong Country Returns, ---------->De Blob<--------*, Zack and Wiki, Madworld, No More Heroes 2 (to be honest, I didn't like this entry), Metroid Prime 3, Metroid: Other M (horrid writing but fun game), House of the Dead: Overkill (don't know your feelings on rail shooters but this one's a ton of fun), Dead Space: Extraction (same here, rail shooter but very cool), Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Rabbids Go Home, Little King's Story (it's kind of like Pikmin), Punch-Out!!, Okami (although that was on the PS2 first)."

*arrows added for effect

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

You know all the titles I listed are Wii games, right?  Of course you do, that's what we're talking about.  So, you know the video you linked to is not footage of de Blob for the Wii, right?  Of course you do, you're not stupid.

Uh, are you?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Here you go:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AWMZkPmLrc

I'm still insulted that you would suggest that I would like it.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Seriously, where the hell did I get the idea that you might consider a fun, colorful platformer?

*cough* Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2 *cough*

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Apples to spoiled oranges.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Yeah, what was I thinking suggesting New Super Mario Bros. Wii when you had mentioned Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2...

Or Okami when you had mentioned Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess...

Or Tatsunoko vs. Capcom when you had mentioned Marvel vs. Capcom and Marvel vs. Capcom 2...

Or No More Heroes 2 when you had mentioned No more Heroes...

Or Dead Space: Extraction when you had mentioned Dead Space and Dead Space 2...

I feel just horrible making suggestions so far out of line.  I'm just going to flog myself and turn in for the evening.  I mean, Christ, next thing you know I'll be recommending LEGO Star Wars III to someone who expressed interest in LEGO Star Wars and LEGO Star Wars II.

I must be stopped!

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

"Or Dead Space: Extraction when you had mentioned Dead Space and Dead Space 2..."

You see, here's the thing.  Often when the PS3 and the 360 get a good game like Dead Space the Wii gets a crap title vaguely themed after said game.  So when the other two consoles get a game like Dead Space, you get a rail shooter named Dead Space.  Or the 360 gets Dead Rising, and the Wii gets the abomination known as Dead Rising Chop till you Drop.

I mean hell, if I would say that I liked 30 Days of Night you aren't going to suggest Twillight are you?

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Well, like I said in my original post, I don't know how you feel about rail shooters.  If you don't like them, then obviously you're not going to enjoy Dead Space: Extraction.  But, despite being a rail shooter, it's definitely a Dead Space game, just a different genre.

"I mean hell, if I would say that I liked 30 Days of Night you aren't going to suggest Twillight are you?"

I haven't seen either film but from what I know about them, no I wouldn't.

 

Andrew Eisen 

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

"If you don't like them, then obviously you're not going to enjoy Dead Space: Extraction."

There have been rail shooters that I have enjoyed actually.  What I don't like though is taking the name of a good game, dumbing it down, and attaching it to some downgraded themed game.  This also happened with Ghostbusters.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

No, that is honestly EVERY game for the Wii that I would play.  I compiled that list from a list of the full Wii library.  I used to own a Wii, but I traded it in for a PS3 when I found that I couldn't find a single game to rent for it.  After going to the video store and staring at the rentals for 45 minutes, only to leave the store empty handed along with similar events at Gamestop lead to me having to get rid of the system.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

If you say so.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

I do say so.  But honestly, what else is there?

Carnival Games, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wario Ware, Wii Fit? *snerk* no thank you.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Yeah, those games aren't up my alley either (except Kirby which is awesome as long as you're not expecting a challenge but if you're interested in Super Mario Galaxy 2, I'm guessing that's not a major sticking point).

Off the top of my head:

Wario Land: Shake It!, Donkey Kong Country Returns, De Blob, Zack and Wiki, Madworld, No More Heroes 2 (to be honest, I didn't like this entry), Metroid Prime 3, Metroid: Other M (horrid writing but fun game), House of the Dead: Overkill (don't know your feelings on rail shooters but this one's a ton of fun), Dead Space: Extraction (same here, rail shooter but very cool), Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Rabbids Go Home, Little King's Story (it's kind of like Pikmin), Punch-Out!!, Okami (although that was on the PS2 first).

The Trauma Center games are a lot of fun too.

Tons of stuff but hey, if you've already considered all those titles and they simply don't appeal to you, that's cool.  Although, I don't see how you could dig Super Mario Galaxy and the like and not find anything else interesting.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Those all were already taken into account when I made my list.  And just because I like Super Mario Galaxy doesn't mean  that I enjoy any shovelware for five year olds that passes my way.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

Of course it doesn't.  I've no idea what would even make you say that as nothing on my list is shovelware for five-year-olds (although the Wii's catalogue is certainly chockful of such titles).  But, as I said, if none of them float your boat then none of them float your boat.  Nothing wrong with that but I still find it odd.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

The issue being I can't comprehend why you find it odd.  It's like, I want to go on a roller coaster, but you say I should go to Kiddie Land and ride the merry-go-round.  But you deny that either Kiddy Land or the amusement park proper are aiming for distinctly different groups.

And that is just taking into account all of the light hearted and "Disney-esque" games.  (In fact the Wii seems like the Disney of the console world)  The Disney stuff aside then you still have to contend with the garage developer quality party game crap.

The Wii can be fun.  I would not have nearly thrown my shoulder out of the socket playing Wii bowling if it were not a fun system.  But had I stuck just with the Wii I feel as if I would be cheating myself out of deeper and richer experiences such as Mass Effect.

Disney is great and all. But even in my DVD collection the movies on the level of Disney are outranked by other sorts of DVDs about 9 to 1.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

You identified games you liked.  I listed a bunch of similar games.  Your roller coaster/Kiddy Land analogy doesn't make a lick of sense.

Now, had I listed We Cheer, Hamster Heroes, and Chuck E. Cheese's Party Games, then you'd have a point.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Nintendo Won't Support 'Hobbyist' and 'Garage' ...

It doesn't make any sense because you are firmly planted in the middle of Kiddy Land/Family Friendly console but can't see the circus for the clowns.

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