Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

March 31, 2011 -

The Times Leader reports on a drug and alcohol counselor who is agitated over the Half-Life 2 mod, School Shooter: North American Tour 2012. The CEO of Wyoming Valley Alcohol and Drug Services wants parents, teachers, school administrators to be aware of its existence and the possibility that it might be "available soon."

Showing that he doesn't understand the concept of a mod or that it is being developed online and to be given away for free, Ambrosino said he has warned the superintendents of area schools, federal and state legislators, as well as major retailers such as Kmart, Walmart and Target about the game.

I'm sure they will be delighted to know that a modification they don't actually sell will be released soon. He also issued a notice at the request of the state Bureau of Drug and Alcohol Programs, urging treatment and prevention professionals to take a formal stand against the "game’s release."

“We feel this is a serious threat to the health and safety of students and campuses,” Ambrosino said. “Acts of violence and suicide are linked to alcohol and substance use… BDAP advocates for stronger prevention policies, and this would include supporting efforts to prevent this harmful and dangerous video game from being released.”

If it's such a serious threat then why can't Ambrosino do a little research on what the hell he's talking about? Well at least The Times Leader understands that it's a Half-Life 2 modification.

While Ambrosino concedes that a modification like this one may not be all the dangerous in young people’s hands, he insists that, in the hands of an at-risk teen, it could prove to have "adverse effects."

While research indicates a game such as School Shooter may not be dangerous in and of itself, Ambrosino said, in the hands of an at-risk teen, it could have adverse effects. Ambrosino added that his organization has never spoken out about violence in video games before, but that the game’s content "seems to be so far outside the boundaries of what is decent and acceptable," that he had to speak up.

Source: Times Leader, image credit: Times Leader


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Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

I'm not surprised or offended by the mod. I just don't care. Because mods don't have to make money, they can push the boundaries in ways that the mainstream commercial software they modify can't begin to conceive of. So it just shouldn't come as a surprise when someone does this.

What continues to surprise me is how people keep overreacting to these, especially without doing the most cursory research first.

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

This guy should totally go to Walmart and camp out in the electronics department until this game hits the store shelves.  Of course being a fan project it will never see stores, but we don't have to tell him that.  Some lessons need to be learned the hard way.  Like listening to nothing but muzak on a store intercom for a couple weeks straight.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

Even better, tell him to go on a hunger strike until the game developers back down and refuse to sell the game.  Of course, since they never said they were going to sell it in the first place, they certainly can't back down so.....

Nightwng2000

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Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

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Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

I wouldn't let my kids play it, and I wouldn't play it myself, but banning something because it 'might set crazy people off' isn't really a cure, just a delay in inevitable.

I'm not going to call this guy names because he has every right to find the game offensive and upsetting, I found the artist who used actual dead people and turned them into 'waxworks' much the same, so I didn't go to his art-shows.

Since your enemies will not even be armed in this game (most of the time) I consider it, at the moment, as something like the 'Modest Proposal', it is something that deliberately sets an awkward precedent in the name of drawing attention to itself or another problem.

Personally, I'd be more concerned that school shootings are becoming such an embedded part of US culture that films and computer games are being made about them in the first place.

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

While research indicates a game such as School Shooter may not be dangerous in and of itself, Ambrosino said, in the hands of an at-risk teen, it could have adverse effects. Ambrosino added that his organization has never spoken out about violence in video games before, but that the game’s content "seems to be so far outside the boundaries of what is decent and acceptable," that he had to speak up.

You get to decide what is decent and acceptable?

 - W

Consumer responsibility is just as important as Corporate responsibility. So, be responsible consumers.

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

Pete (or anyone else), is there any contact info for this man? If so, you should write in to him explaining what a mod is, and that it is not sold in stores.

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

Where's the fun in that? That's like telling a lemming there's a cliff ahead.


Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

Sent the following comment to the Times article:

As the author points out, this game is a "mod" created using tools that allow any individual to change various aspects of a commercially released game, Half Life 2.  The mod creation tools allows any individual to change characters, environments (buildings, land, etc), weapons, characters (both player and non-player (NPC)), and even the story from what was to commercially released to whatever the mod designer wants.  Additionally, except in very rare cases, mods are not the creation of the designers or company that released the original game.  They can, in fact, be the average hobbyist who decided to use their own individual imagination to create using tools and engines previously made available.  And they may not even release the mod commercially but share it freely, much in the same way a hobbyist shares a poem, a song, a story, or any other item they created or developed from previous material.

An example might be fans who create stories or even videos based on previous released products.  Star Trek being one example.  Many fans have produced fan fiction books and even videos released on the internet, free of charge, merely to share that material.  Companies, like Paramount, may or may not take action, even if the material is released free of charge.  Sometimes those companies even cherry pick who they will or will not go after or will or will not allow to release such material.  But, ultimately, the fan fiction is the sole creation of those who create it, and most intelligent individuals treat it that way, regardless of the attitude of the original creators' efforts on the original material.

Ambrosino whimpers and whines that a fictional product will be harmful, yet has no clear evidence of harm or even the realization, due to lack of research into the reality and nature of mods, that this product is NOT a commercial product, shown by his inclusion of fearmongering to retailers who would have never been offered to sell the product in the first place.  Does this mean that Mr. Ambrosino considers his lies, deceit, and misinofrmation, brought about by his zealous ignorance, to be less harmful to others, including children, than a fictional computer/video game who, by the mere fact that it IS fictional, has no need for morals because it IS fictional and fiction is fiction and reality is reality and the two shall never truly meet?  Is it really taught in his odd little world that lies, deceit, and misinformation, brought about by zealous ignorance is more "decent" than a piece of fictional media?

If so, then perhaps it isn't a media product that needs to be complained about to various authority figures and even the general public, to have children and others protected from, but HIM.

Nightwng2000

NW2K Software

http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000

Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Nightwng2000 NW2K Software http://www.facebook.com/nightwing2000 Nightwng2000 is now admin to the group "Parents For Education, Not Legislation" on MySpace as http://groups.myspace.com/pfenl

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

After warning parents, teachers, retailers and anyone who would listen... he reminded "those darn youngens" to stay off his lawn.

------- Morality has always been in decline. As you get older, you notice it. When you were younger, you enjoyed it.

------- Morality has always been in decline. As you get older, you notice it. When you were younger, you enjoyed it.

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

Someone should make a HL2 mod that allows players to play on people's lawns..... possibility while making a racket.

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

Here you go

 

http://www.gamebanana.com/maps/search?search=house House maps galore, including lawns.

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

"Ambrosino added that his organization has never spoken out about violence in video games before, but that the game’s content "seems to be so far outside the boundaries of what is decent and acceptable," that he had to speak up."

Would you feel better if Checkerboarded Studios called the students "Opposing Forces" instead?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

Zing!

If I could award them, I would give you today's internets.

Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

LMAO, +1.  gg

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Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

Thought crime..... its real!


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Re: Wyoming Valley Counselor Disturbed by School Shooter Mod

>_<

That truly deserves both a lol and an omg. Enjoy, sir, enjoy!

 
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