Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

May 6, 2011 -

According to a C|Net report a group of hackers is planning another attack on Sony this weekend. C|Net is calling the planned offensive a "major attack" that will target various Sony web sites. The information comes from IRC chatter, observed by an unnamed source. According to the report, the people involved plan to publicize the information they are able to steal from Sony's servers, which could include customer names, credit card numbers, and addresses. The hackers claim they currently have access to some of Sony's servers.

It's been a bad couple of weeks for Sony, who suffered a series of devastating security breaches of its servers. The failure to protect customers and inform them of the security breach has sparked a storm of investigations and inquires from various government agencies and politicians including the FBI, the Department of Justice, Congress, and the New York State Attorney General, a well as authorities in the U.K., Canada, Australia, Japan, and Taiwan.

Naturally, Sony is not commenting on this story, but we are pretty sure they are paying attention at this point. We will have more on this story as it develops.

Source: C|Net


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Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

If this is true and they do it while Sony is more then likely watching their servers for anything like this, then they're pretty stupid...if this is true anyways.

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Sure it matters. If it was awesome enough and still failed, you can still get famous on the front page of failblog. :3

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Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

And so, if it does come to pass, they will be perceived not through the lenses we are seeing them now, but through the ones of the aftereffects. Hence, if they succeed, the blow will be simply devastating to SONY. However, if they fail, they will be laughed at for their arrogance. And, if for any reason it doesn't come to pass, whether the intent was there prior or not, it will be called a "fake". History cares little about truth, only perception matters.

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"It's been a bad couple of weeks for Sony, who suffered series of [humiliating and humbling] security breaches of its servers."

There.  I fixed it for you.

If legit, this new wave of attacks is probably just to rub it in that Sony doesn't hire competent personnel who know what they are doing.  Once a soft, vulnerable, major target like Sony PSN is identified, hackers start looking for other venues and vulnerabilities because the thinking goes is that the same people who wrote the software that powers PSN probably also wrote other, equally poorly written software elsewhere in the company's infrastructure - just waiting to be exploited while the company's pants are down.

IMO, though, hackers should find something constructive to do with their apparent inordinate amounts of free time.

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Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

Constructive to you, society or their objectives? For example, a terrorist will believe quite constructive the use of his time planning an attack. Doesn't mean we'd agree, but at least being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes help a great deal find a way to interact with them (whatever your goals may be).

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But how will they hack them?  I thought Sony's been entirely off-line lately :-p har har har

Seriously though, what I cannot understand here is the motive... :/

 

 


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There doesn't have to be any logical reason behind why somebody wants to do something. Anything at all.

The hackers may want money or 15 minutes of internet fame, they might be angry at Sony for this or that, or they just might find it extremely funny.

"Because I can", whilst being one of the worst reasons in history, is still a valid one.

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...Are you kidding me? Greed, Fame, Anger, Twisted sense of right and wrong, Justified sense of right and wrong (?), Sense of entitlement, Dare, etc. Pretty much any reason is a """good""" reason at this point.

Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

So does anyone here actually enjoy sony products and would be upset if they were crippled? Seriously, just because your console won't do all you want it to do doesn't really mean you don't still use it?

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I don't think it's an issue of it doing all they WANT, but, rather, that Sony made it stop doing all Sony said it WOULD do.  For those who bought it for what Sony claimed it WOULD do, it seems like a case of after the fact false advertising.

If people bought a vehicle with the selling point that they would receive a free Tom-Tom (or other navigation system) and free service for that navigation system, a short while down the road, the car company said not only were they taking away the free service but they were also, somehow, blocking that vehicle's access to that navigation service, or ANY navigation service, I'd think the consumers would be rather upset that a service that was made a selling point was revoked after they purchased it.

Another similar comparison would be ISPs that offered non-capped internet services through advertising and then, suddenly, after a large number of folks signed up under that premise, the ISP switched to a cap system, forcing the customer to abide by the new system if they want to keep the service.  In fact, it's more like this situation because you have so few alternatives if you decide to choose a different ISP (as there are few alternatives in the customer's local area).

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Again, this is saying that Sony actively advertised the OtherOS feature, which they never did. You'll never find a TV ad, magazine clipping, or even written on the box that says you can use a different OS. The only way someone could know about the OtherOS feature is by word of mouth.

Let's be reminded that it wasn't always there. They put it in with firmware version 1.60.

The argument is the same as me complaining that they put in trophies. I didn't ask for, nor even want trophies, it was one of the reasons I bought a PS3, and not an Xbox. They have just as much right to remove features as they do to add them.

I didn't care for the OtherOS option, but at least it was just that: an option. I'm suck with trophies whether I like it or not.

I still don't like comparing the PS3 to a car, because the argument that they can take out a navigation system is like my argument saying that they can add a hood ornament of a swastika or something of that nature.

The difference is that the PS3 is constantly changing, and you can choose whether or not to accept the changes, where if you buy a car, that's it.

Also, the attack on Sony was a targeted attack with a purpose. Lax as their security may have been, there's no evidence to support the concept that the same thing wouldn't have happened no matter how good their security was. I'm willing to bet anything that they could have had all the firewalls, protection, and black boxes in the world and it wouldn't have done a bit of good.

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Word of mouth is an effective selling tool.

Note that Sony DID make the Otheros visible on the XMB menu.  It wasn't a hidden tool available only to a select few or a tool they installed into the code, then decided they didn't want it and hid it instead of removing it, meaning only an external 3rd party tool was required to make it visible (sound familiar?).

This function was available for use and became a talking point, not only by consumers but by companies that were to create the software that was compatible for it.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6162316.html?tag=result;title;0

Now, certain details seem to be no longer available, such as the manual referred to in the article.  HOWEVER, if Otheros was NOT a selling point, and was NOT meant to be used by the average consumer who chose to make use of it, then where is the lawsuit by Sony against Terra Soft for having created the Yellow Dog Linux OS to be used by Otheros on the PS3?

Sony may, or may not, have directly advertised on TV, magazines, etc.  But they didn't oppose legal usage and advertising of legal usage of the Otheros function.

Sony may not have advertised YDL, but YDL was openly advertised and Sony did nothing to stop it.

These lines need to be noticed and clarified as to what Sony itself has said on the subject as well:

"Sony has been saying that it sees its new next-gen machine, the PlayStation 3, as more of a computer than a console."

In what sense if it can't be used as a computer using an OS.

"According to the manual, when Sony Computer Entertainment designed the PS3, "it was fully intended that you, a PS3 owner, could play games, watch movies, view photos, listen to music, and run a full-featured Linux operating system that transforms your PS3 into a home computer." "

"the manual" would be YDL's manual, stated by the maker of the OS.  But they make claims that SCE designed the PS3 with full intent... etc.  Did they make a false claim?  If so, again why isn't Sony suing?

The advertisement is in making the option publically available, allowing software companies to produce products to be compatible with the option, and not stepping in when the "word of mouth" advertising was in full swing and saying "No, this option is NOT intended to be used in this way and we have no intent on allowing the option to be used in this way for the average consumer".

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"HOWEVER, if Otheros was NOT a selling point, and was NOT meant to be used by the average consumer who chose to make use of it, then where is the lawsuit by Sony against Terra Soft for having created the Yellow Dog Linux OS to be used by Otheros on the PS3?"

For the same reason there's no lawsuit by Nintendo against Datel for making the Action Replay for the DS. Or against MadCatz for making (crappy) controllers.

You can make all the third-party accessories and tools you want for a system, but it's not Sony's responsibility to ensure those third-party devices are compatible with your system. If you update the firmware on your PS3, and find your third-party devices no longer work, then that's just tough cookies. They're only obligated to make sure their own products work with their own products.

On top of that, other companies can advertise a feature of someone else's product if they want, unless, of course, it isn't a feature anymore. If someone advertised that the PS3 had OtherOS now, then they'd probably be sued. But my point is, since they aren't Sony, they can't guarantee that the feature will stay there, so that's them taking a gamble.

Word of mouth IS an effective selling tool, but it's not official advertising. For example, if your friend says that the PS3 can run Linux, and you decide to go out and buy one, and then find out that the PS3 can't run Linux, is Sony at fault? No. Your friend is at fault for giving you false information, and you're at fault for not checking. Sony reserves the right to add and remove features at will, which is in the terms of service.

They may have fully intended to keep Linux support; we'll probably never know. Even if they did, that doesn't mean that they don't have the right to remove it. And it's not like they did it forcibly. They did give you a choice as to whether you wanted to update it or not. The way people are carrying on, it's like Sony sent reps to everyone's house, tied down the PS3 owner, and made them watch as their system was mercilessly butchered before their eyes.

If they wanted to take out trophy support in the next update, I wouldn't mind. In fact, I'd be ecstatic. But I know there's some who would complain. Is there anything that can be legally done to stop them? Nope. Is it a good idea? I think it is, but I don't speak for everyone, so probably not.

If you wanted to keep Linux, you shouldn't update your system. The U.S. Military didn't, and they're running Linux just fine on theirs. Scientists didn't update theirs, and theirs work just fine.

The moral of the story is: Don't go on word of mouth alone. Check your facts beforehand. If you drop $500-600 based on something your friend told you, that only makes you look like an idiot.

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Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

However, you're still skipping the part where the ORIGIN is Sony's public allowance in the first place.

A friend might tell me how to hack into the system, but what I'm hacking into isn't readily set to be public available.

Otheros WAS set for public usage, by intent.  Sony never said it was unintended publically accessible.

If a friend tells me a function is there because it's there because Sony placed it there for the usage of the consumer, then Sony knows full well that those who are learning of its existance would purchase their system based on various functions, including the availability of those public functions.

Sony advertised its availability by MAKING it publically available.  Word of mouth spread the news.  But that word of mouth would not have known it was there unless (a) it were publically available or (b) someone hacked into a private area to access it.  Since the situation was that it was publically available, Sony itself started the advertisement.  No one had to hack into it to have access or discover it in the first place.

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Yes, Sony did intend for the public to use OtherOS. But again, simply making it available isn't advertising it. Sony allowing others to advertise their own products to work with it isn't advertising it. The closest possible thing to an advertisement was when they put it in the notes of the firmware update.

You're making something out of nothing, here. You're honestly saying that releasing support for OtherOS was an advertisement in and of itself?

There was no active advertisement on the OtherOS feature, period. The only thing that made OtherOS a selling point was word of mouth, which Sony has no control of, nor involvement in.

Sony released OtherOS, a bunch of people were like "Hey, we can use this to get free games and boost our scores in online games!" and ruined it for everyone.

That's all these hackers do. They get butthurt because real life doesn't work the way they want it to, and they lash out, ruining it for everyone else. I just hope they catch whoever was responsible fast. Maybe they'll at least tell us why.

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Regardless of the damage and who the victims are, if they do try, and SUCCEED, I'm calling it "The 99 Cent Attack".  By now, Sony should have patched, if not fixed, the holes to their systems.  Especially with the supposed outside aid they were claiming they were going to get.  Sony has, and has had, serious problems for a long time, and many customers are the victims of Sony's failures.  If Sony ends up in a major lawsuit or thousands of them, then they've earned the wrath of the customers.

Certainly, Sony has every right to go after the hackers, and, quite frankly, I think the customers do as well.  But it is still Sony's failures that would allow the hackers to succeed.  Site interference which doesn't involve customer data loss has been a challenge for many a hacker and, while an annoyance, is pretty much just something to laugh at.  But customer data loss is becoming far more frequent and NEEDS to be taken seriously.  Especially when it happens to another company and you have their loss to look back on and say "maybe we need to double and triple check our defenses" rather than take an arrogant approach of "we're unhackable".

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Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

"HEY SONY! We're gonna hack into your server network this weekend! Don't pay any attention to suspicious activity during that period!"

Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

Maybe it's more something the like of "and there's nothing you can do about it." Either that, or could be a nice diversion tactic...

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Even though I think that Sony was asking to be attacked the moment they wetn after hacker this is getting way out of hand.

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Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

To be fair, you don't just kick the hornets' nest. Either you try to take them out altogether or you leave them alone. It would appear they are going after option a) this time...

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Sony makes me mad.  I know what I'll do, I'll hurt Sony's customers!

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Not condeming or codoning, but Sony's customers are Sony's money. The attacks so far have cost 1 month PSN+ and 12 month id theft prevetion to all Sony customers with credit cards info.

 

So...Sony makes me mad.  I know what I'll do, I'll hurt Sony's money.

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I still don't understand? What makes you think this is a political attack? You still think this is Anonymous? I don't. I don't think Anonymous would deny, or even be quiet about their involvement.

These people are thieves. A political attack would focus on Sony directly. These thieves stole from customers, then Sony shut down PSN to stop it. That's when they started hurting. The thieves hurt customers directly, then, as a side effect, hurt Sony. If it was a political attack on Sony, it would have been the other way around.

These people haven't made any statements. They don't want "justice." They want money. Our money.

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True, maybe Sony was a target of opportunity that had the Anon DoS as the perfect cover. The thieves stole from customers, and in the end that is all that happened.

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They do it and it'll be one of the biggest mistakes they ever make. Though the fact that it comes from Cnet is already havign people call fake.

funny how they're pissed off so their strategy is to keep hurting customers.

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At this point, it sounds to me like a hoax. Either that, or these hackers are extremely arrogant. Returning to the "scene of the crime" for a THIRD time with EVERYONE watching, after informing everyone. Is there nothing anybody can do to stop them? Or are they making this up?

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At this point, if it IS a hoax, it's all they need to accomplish something- GP's next article is about Sony's falling stock as a result of these attacks. The mere IDEA of another one, though?

Think about it.

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See it from another point of view. Imagine they do, imagine they succeed and imagine they get away with it, at least for a time. Can you imagine how devastating that would be? I can't remember who said that the wars of this century would mainly be digital, but this could very well be how it all starts: Bringing a titan like SONY to its knee will make the digital arm race escalate to unforeseen levels. By the way, if this happens, its likely you can kiss whatever remaining privacy you have goodbye and expect to be caught in the crossfire of governments, corporations and individuals with points to prove...

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WTF?  These entitled pricks need to stop.  Being angry you can't run fucking Linux on a videogame machine or that you want to get games for freee gives nobody the right to steal & publicise other people's private info and credit card info.  What burns me even more is how these hackers are still regarded like fucking heroes.   

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You're making the grand, unsubstantiated assumption that the people who put OtherOS are behind the server attacks and subsequent loss of customer data. There's no evidence that such events are related or enacted by the same people. It's far more logical to hypothesize that there are other attackers using the distraction of current events and the system's lax security to their advantage.

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Re: Report: Hackers Plan Weekend Attack on Sony

For that matter, considering how backdoors and trojans work, it's not even a given that this group is the same as the one behind the initial attack...

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Heroes and villains are defined purely by who they help and who they hurt.  Nothing new here.

 
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