Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

July 12, 2011 -

According to a memo sent to GameStop and obtained by Kotaku, the newest PS3 systems will remove the ability to use component cables to get high definition signals. This will make it so that PS3 users will have to be using an HDMI cable to show an HD image. Since HDMI cables can retail for $60 or more, this is not necessarily a good thing for consumers who don't have a lot to spend.

"This means you will want to offer an HDMI cable with every new 'K' model PS3," the memo says.

Ars Technica speculates why Sony decided to take away the ability to view true HD images via a component cable. One reason, they say, is because some Sony Bravia televisions already require an HDMI connection to display video in the full 1080p resolution.

This move will give Sony more control over how the image is used, while limiting the possibilities for recording or duplication. Also, retailers can now make a few bucks selling HDMI cables alongside the system, according to Ars.

Sony has not commented publically about this story.

My advice? Be prepared to buy an HDMI if you are buying a new PS3.

Source: Ars Technica

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Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

The latest I've heard on this is that games will still be fine through component. What you won't be able to do is watch Blu-Rays at their full resolution without HDMI. 

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

Not sure how that can pull that off since it's the same disc format.

 

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Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

HDMI over $60??? Poor idiots who are buying the 'Monster Brand' label stuff. Overpriced crap.

In Canada here and at Best Buy I can buy a normal one for $20- $30. No skin off my butt. Then again almost every tv from the last 4 years has 2+ HDMI ports. Now that I know on E-Bay or Amazon, you can get $5 and $10...ugh.

Isn't this what everything is leaning towards now? Why the hostility?

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Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

I think everyone knows you can pick up a HDMI cable on the cheap.  I bought one for $5 at the Dollar Store.  The anger I think is coming from the fact that Sony is mutilating their console in a futile fight against pirates where the only people who really suffer are their customers who don't steal their shit.  Ugh.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

That or as soemone pointed out above it could be a thinly veiled attempt to try to force those who haven't gotten HDTVs yet.

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

Sony continues to canabalize their system.  Maybe next they will disable the disc drive altogether.  Because if it can't play any discs, then it can't play pirated discs right?

Continuing to fuck over thei customer base because of a minor amount of pirates.  Pathetic.

-Ultimately what will do in mankind is a person's fear of their own freedom-

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

Do some research Pete. You can get a pack of three HDMI cables off of Amazon for 15 bucks.

This makes me glad I have a Ps3 with component abilities and glad I got an HD TV.

Also, if you're talking about the newest PS# systems, why did you picture a phatty?

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

That is an online retailer. Brick and Mortor retailers don't sell cheap cables. The cheapest HDMI cable I have ever seen in retail was $40. I bought mine for $2 on Monoprice. Most people will not think to look there.

E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

Bought my HDMI for $10 at the local Big Lots. Might not be as cheap as some Online, but the ones I found were the same price once S&H were added.

 

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Hunting the shadows of the troubled dreams.

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

I also got $10 cables at Big Lots, and they've worked just fine for 3.5 years.

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3


 

60$? I got my cable with 6€.

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

ArsTechnica has an update on this story from Sony.

"The new CECH-3000 series PS3 requires HDMI only for BD movie output in HD, in compliance with AACS standards," Sony told Ars. "PS3 continues to support component output for HD gaming and streaming content."

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/07/sony-explains-new-ps3-hdmi-re...

The HDMI cable is only required for Blu-ray playback and not HD gaming. Still a crap move and goes against every anti-DRM bone in my body.

E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

To those claiming they are doing this for no good reason, they actually are.

By removing the option of component cables for HD output, they are able to force a DRM system that prevents 3rd party recording systems from operating on the resulting output.

Granted, this is really bad for gamers and especially people who like to record their play throughs for the purposes of tutorials and reporting and otehr such legal channels, but in Sony's mind it prevents Blu-ray pirates from ripping movie content. Not that it will actually do anything like that since Blu-ray pirates wouldn't be using such a convoluted process to rip high def video.

E. Zachary Knight
Divine Knight Gaming

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

HDMI cables can be dirt cheap. I think I got mine for £2-3 each on Amazon. The problem's not the extra cost (although this will be an excuse for unethical salesmen to hawk overpriced HDMI cables to unwary buyers), but as suggested in other comments above, the fact that Sony are removing a feature for no particularly good reason and essentially making PS3s incompatible with a good number of TV sets.

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

Yeah, cable vendors have long sold good, quality cables for very low prices.  Buying A/V cables, even cheap ones, from big stores has always been a rip off. 

This does suck, but not because of the potential added cost.  It sucks because they're removing a feature for no good reason that many people (maybe not a majority but still) would like to have.  I use component hookups on my PS3 because it is plugged into a TV that doesn't have HDMI.  I guess Sony figures it is time I dump my old (but still good) TV just so I can have one of their shiny new Bravias.

Guess again Stringer. 

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

The PS3 doesn't care what brand your TV is. I mean if you want to get an HD then you can get a good for for how cheap CRTs were going for when they stopped selling them.

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

"It sucks because they're removing a feature for no good reason that many people (maybe not a majority but still) would like to have."

This sounds rather familiar...

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

I got my HDMI (6 footer) for a nickle plus shipping of like 3 bucks.

Re: Report: Sony to Require HDMI Cable for HD Output on PS3

HDMI cables are only rediculously priced if you purchase them from Walmart, Best Buy, Target, Game Stop, and most other common retail stores.

If you want an HDMI cable that will do the job just as well as a cable from any of the aformentioned stores, just go to Five Below and purchase an HDMI cable for five dollars. Monoprice.com also has HDMI cables at affordable prices.

Any of these "cheap" hdmi cables will work just as well as the more expensive "premium" hdmi cables that will be found at the retailers. The ones and the zeroes transmitted through the cable you choose the same no matter what.

 

But shame on Sony for not including the necessary HDMI cable in the box for their system. 

 
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