2K Games President Inserts Foot In Mouth

July 13, 2011 -

A new interview with 2K President Christoph Hartmann over on MCV makes the top executive at the Take-Two label look a little foolish - not that it's MCV's fault. In that interview Hartmann degrades strategy games and Ray Charles among other things. His comments come about as part of a discussion on X-Com, the popular strategy games series that the company is reimagining as a strategy-themed shooter. Here's the first quote, about 90's strategy games:

"The ‘90s generation of gamers all love Xcom and we own the IP, so we thought OK, what do we do with it? Every studio we had wanted to do it and each one had its own spin on it. But the problem was that turn-based strategy games were no longer the hottest thing on planet Earth. But this is not just a commercial thing – strategy games are just not contemporary."

The most foolish thing he claims is that strategy games aren't contemporary. Isn't Plants vs. Zombies a strategy game? StarCraft II? Isn't EA making a new C&C game? Didn't 2K Games make a lot of money off of Civ V and recently put a Civ game on Facebook? You get the point.

And now for Ray Charles. Apparently if Charles had grown up in the era of Kanye West, he'd be exactly like him:

"I use the example of music artists. Look at someone old school like Ray Charles, if he would make music today it would still be Ray Charles but he would probably do it more in the style of Kanye West. Bringing Ray Charles back is all fine and good, but it just needs to move on, although the core essence will still be the same. That’s what we are trying to do. To renew Xcom but in line with what this generation of gamers want. The team behind it is asking themselves every day: ‘Is it true to the values of the franchise?’ It’s not a case of cashing in on the name. We just need to renew it because times are changing."

Are people really "moving on" from Ray Charles, since he's dead? Should I throw my Doors albums in the fire, followed by everything from Johnny Cash? It's one of the most ridiculous arguments ever made. The truth is that we can't move on and forget about X-Com or Ray Charles because we cherish the art for being great.

For a harsher analysis, check out this No High Scores post.


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Re: 2K Games President Inserts Foot In Mouth

Hmm, going to take a successful IP of another genre and turn it into another generic FPS, because it worked so well in the past (see shadowrun)

Re: 2K Games President Inserts Foot In Mouth

If he doesn't want to do a strategy game, why buy the IP for a legendary strategy game to shit out another FPS? It can't be that hard to do a game like the upcoming Xcom as an original IP, seeing as it's X-Com in name only.

Re: 2K Games President Inserts Foot In Mouth

It's very hard to make a good turn based strategy game. And as for not selling, haven't Disgaea and Final Fantasy Tactics sold quite well?

Re: 2K Games President Inserts Foot In Mouth

"strategy games are just not contemporary."

Which is why I picked up the X-Com game pack on Steam recently and was reliving the days of my youth all over again.

Meanwhile, which new game will I NOT be picking up?

The world doesn't need another generic FPS, and certainly not one made from the dismembered corpse of a once and still-beloved IP.

Re: 2K Games President Inserts Foot In Mouth

Strategy != Real-Time Strategy.  The two genres are vastly different enough that I know people who play strategy games but won't touch RTS games.  And there are people who are the exact opposite.

Plants vs. Zombies is Tower Defense.  StarCraft II and C&C are RTS games.

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Re: 2K Games President Inserts Foot In Mouth

Strategy is the all encompassing genre of games that includes the sub genres Turn Based Strategy, 4X, RTS, and Real Time Tactical.

I still say that there is demand for a Xcom like game, as Xenonauts has finally gotten out of Development Hell, UFO ExtraTerrestrials (a game that takes place on another planet that's like earth) is getting a prequel, and the original creator of Xcom made a game like Xcom on the 3DS

 
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IronPatriotBut hey, you're welcome.05/29/2015 - 5:23am
Andrew EisenEZK did say he didn't find any info on the appeals process. And if all he did was look at the ratings process part of the ESRB's website, he wouldn't have. That's where I would have looked too. But hey, thanks for being thorough and finding the info.05/29/2015 - 5:01am
Andrew EisenDude, again. I am NOT saying there is no appeals process. THERE OBVIOUSLY IS. All I am saying is that the appeals process is not described in the ratings process part of the ESRB's website.05/29/2015 - 4:59am
IronPatriotI googled appeal esrb.org and it is the first and third hits. Second is esrb talking about appeals for web publishers. Gamefaqs is fourth.05/29/2015 - 4:01am
IronPatriotZachary said he did not find any information about a formal appeals process. I did a simple search and found two places on the esrb site with the info. Just sayin.05/29/2015 - 3:57am
IronPatriotOn Google I get "1 Written Testimony of Patricia E. Vance President ... - ESRB" http://www.esrb.org/about/news/downloads/pvtestimony_6_14_06.pdf05/29/2015 - 3:55am
Andrew EisenNow, that post on GameFAQs was made four years ago. It appears the ESRB has since moved the appeals process stuff behind the publisher login on its website.05/29/2015 - 3:32am
Andrew EisenOh, third link on the Google search. Okay. That leads to a GameFAQs message board which quotes a section of the ESRB website that includes a description of the appeals process. But when you follow the link, that quote doesn't exist.05/29/2015 - 3:30am
Andrew EisenThird link down from what? Look, I'm not arguing the existance of an appeals process. There obviously is one. I was merely noting that it's odd that it isn't described on the website's ratings process section but it is on the mobile site.05/29/2015 - 3:25am
IronPatriotOK, so use the third link down, which describes the appeals process and is not on the mobile site"Publishers also have the ability to appeal an ESRB rating assignment to an Appeals Board, which is made up of publishers, retailers and other professionals."05/29/2015 - 2:47am
Andrew EisenRight, which links to the ESRB's mobile site. On the website (again, unless I'm overlooking it) the appeals process is locked behind the publisher login.05/29/2015 - 2:37am
IronPatriotHuh? Google "appeals esrb". It is the first link. Click it. No login requested.05/29/2015 - 2:31am
Andrew EisenInteresting. It's on the mobile site but unless I'm overlooking it, I don't see it under the Ratings Process on the web site. It is under the publishers section but you can't access it without a login.05/29/2015 - 2:13am
IronPatriot"Publishers also have the ability to appeal an ESRB rating assignment to an Appeals Board made up of publishers, retailers and other professionals. " Esrb05/29/2015 - 2:01am
IronPatriotZachary, did you look on the esrb site? The esrb appeals process pops up when you search "esrb appeals" http://m.esrb.org/faq_09.php05/29/2015 - 2:00am
Andrew EisenThe humor reminds me a lot of Axe Cop.05/29/2015 - 1:37am
WymorenceOh sweet god, Kung Fury is freaking awesome...05/28/2015 - 10:03pm
E. Zachary KnightWonder, I know you can revise content and resubmit it, but I can't findany information about a formal appeals process.05/28/2015 - 7:27pm
Wonderkarpever wonder if there's an appeals process for AO?05/28/2015 - 6:55pm
Matthew WilsonDanny and Andy play the first couple of levels of the upcoming Hatred http://www.gamespot.com/videos/hatred-gamespot-plays/2300-6425016/ imho it does not look like it should be AO.05/28/2015 - 5:57pm
 

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