Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

August 15, 2011 -

Former Oasis front man and now solo artist Noel Gallagher says that video games and TV violence are to blame for the civil unrest in London.

"We live in this age of violence—and I don't care what other people say: Brutal TV and brutal videogames are a reason for this pointless violence as well," Gallagher is quoted as saying in Bang Showbiz. "The people are immune to violence, they are used to it. And if they get caught they aren't punished the right way. The prisons are already full? Then build new ones!"

Gallagher, now a solo artist, is the former singer-songwriter for UK band Oasis. This kind of talk from Gallagher is not an isolated incident; in 2008, he blamed video games for a UK knife crime.

It's always interesting to see how some artists have a dim view of other forms of art. If someone had suggested that music he had written was responsible for violence he would no doubt scoff at such a notion.

Source: News Junkie by way of Kotaku


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Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

"Brutal TV and brutal videogames are a reason for this pointless violence as well"

‚ÄčAnd I suppose it has nothing at all to do with, say, prominent celebrities setting a bad example with public displays of drunken violence?

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

A rock artist blames another forms of art for violence with no evidence, who incidently has his own history of violence within his job as an artist. Gotta say, the irony is delicious. I mean, how much crap has his form of art taken? Let's not forget all the times music has actually been involved with large social movements or has been blamed for violence.  1960's anyone? 

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Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

If games can do it so can music, glass house anyone?


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Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

So there weren't any riots before 1980?

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

Noel/Joel Gallagher citing moral dilemmas?!?!?! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! (deep breath) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh man... that's a good one.

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

Agreed. You don't start a conversation with "I don't care what other people think" in a public forum and expect to be taken seriously. This is the very definition of ignorance.

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

This is the age-old "it wasn't like this in my day and age". Rock stars like the above are now an older generation, and now have the same views as the parents they rebelled against. It will the same for this generation when they grow older.

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

Because the Gallagher brothers are the utmost pinnacle of good, non-violent behaviour, right?

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

Weren't these guys, Oasis, well known for getting into brawls all the time, including each other, not to mention shooting off their mouths.  I'm not sure these are the folks to wag their fingers at anyone...

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

And I'm pretty sure your genre of music and over all art form was blamed for all the ills of the world at some point mister.

"It's always interesting to see how some artists have a dim view of other forms of art."

That assumes he's not part of the "games are not nor ever will be art" crowd.

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

of course, there were no violence back before vidjya games, no sirree.  why, back in the day, kids used to play cops & robbers or cowboys & indians.  yes sir, good wholesome play without them violent vidjya games.  and they played with good wholesome toys such as cap guns and toy rifles.  them was the good ol' days back before them violent vidjya games.

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

"We live in this age of violence—and I don't care what other people say: Brutal TV and brutal videogames are a reason for this pointless violence as well."

I'm assuming that he takes "people" to mean those who have studied and understand the human psyche a great deal more than he does.

Re: Former Oasis Singer Blames Games for London Violence

Agreed. You don't start a conversation with "I don't care what other people think" in a public forum and expect to be taken seriously. This is the very definition of ignorance.

 
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