Our own Andrew Eisen offers an interesting video that proposes a unique marketing campaign for Fox News involving moms. The source material will be familiar to GP readers - you can find those videos here and here.
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That 'Liberal agenda' part just seems to summarise the problems with US politics today to me - paranoid bouts of tribalism, where any different viewpoint is against the status quo of conservatives.
Colonisation - how dare this game penalise you for destroying native villages?!
Civilisation - how dare this game allow you to promote a non-Christian religion?!
Fallout - how dare this game promote the US government (Enclave) as an enemy faction?!
Submitted by hellfire7885 on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 10:20.
OH they did jump on Fallout once, but it wasn't that.
It was over one of the promo images showing a destroyed house of representatives. They said it was either drawn by a terrorist or was encouraging terrorists.
Would have hated to see their reaction that in Fallout 3 the White house is just a crater. During the Bush years it would have ben seen as encouraging terrorists, now, it would have been seen as what needs otbe done.
I think video game bashing in the media has officially jumped the shark. They are bashing educational and edutainment games now? Is that really what they are reduced to? Vilifying games are part of the left biased media, saying that Typing Tutor 2 may be pushing the "liberal agenda" on your kids?
I love the quick shots to the overly concerned and offended women we are to assume are not paid actors.
This is about as propaganda as it gets. The McDonalds game, really?! That game was build from the ground up to make McD's look bad, it's part of the assigned "reading" in Video Game Rhetoric, and Honors Video Game Studies (my class) here on campus. Of course it's offensive, it's a persuasive game, but playing it off as mainstream is much easier.
My favorite part is having to manage how much trash and waste you feed the cattle in order to archive just the right mix of mutant growth without making your customers glow in the dark.
Submitted by hellfire7885 on Thu, 09/08/2011 - 10:57.
I kind of tuned out when he said "liberal agenda".
I mean, have ANY of them watched someone play Sim City? People I've seen play the games have too much fun with natural disasters. And I don't see how teaching someone a corporation should be penalized for dumping waste in a river is a bad thing.
I mean, shit, people being smug about it and green-washing aside, how is going green a bad thing? Plus most of the games mentioned are either years old or flash games, so all they did was just make these games attractive to rebellious kids.
Submitted by Cattleprod on Thu, 09/08/2011 - 17:28.
There's a simple way to tell if any form of media has a liberal agenda, you just need to ask: is the media in question Fox News? If no, then congratulations, you've found a liberal agenda.
I don't remember the specifics... but last I played a Sim City game I remember you can let your city drop down to about the third level of hell before you suffer any major repercussions from letting pollution run out of control. I mean, sure, the people are miserable and complain and such, but as long as you can scrape up enough taxes to build that 4x12 heavy industrial zone down the middle of your low cost housing district and cap each end with a military base, the other penalties aren't that harsh.
Don't forgetting summoning Godzilla to eat it all once your population tops the million mark. Having a hard time seeing the liberal agenda here.
Submitted by Neo_DrKefka on Thu, 09/08/2011 - 12:09.
Thats because Progressives are so into their idealogy they cannot see out of the prism of their own way of thinking to where anything they disagree is wrong outright and if someone has a problem with that they must be troll, sad or just don't understand the big picture....or someone to laugh at
QUICK GET THE LOCAL LIBERAL GRAMMER NAZI have him pick at every little thing so we don't have to focus on the point which was in the message or just deflect everything and just insult and use some saul alinsky style tactics!
Submitted by Prof_Sarcastic on Thu, 09/08/2011 - 15:26.
So you go off on a rant about ideology and seeing things through prisms, rather than actually saying where the "liberal agenda" is in the game, and then you're surprised that people think you're a troll?
I actually know this guy in real life and he IS a troll. He actually has pretty liberal beliefs but he likes to troll people on the Internet by pretending he is a hard line, la-di-da right winger.
I thought that, by now, everyone with at least three functional brain cells would've long ago tuned out anything showing even remotely on the Poe's Law meter.
Submitted by Neo_DrKefka on Fri, 09/09/2011 - 06:36.
He doesn't know me in real life everyone knows I am a conservative in one of the most liberal cities in the United States
I love it when I just say I told you so look at all these responses and instead of responding to the statement I just see hehe and giggles and a deflection of anything I said hmmm which of the rules of radicals was followed here
Submitted by Prof_Sarcastic on Sun, 09/11/2011 - 16:16.
Whether Shahab is telling the truth or not, you still aren't setting us straight on where you see the liberal agenda in that example. So, one way or another, you ARE trolling, its a simple fact.
Traditionally, trolls have tried to garner an emotional response, but these days its seems all a troll needs to be considered successful is for people to actually reply. Sad times.
DorthLous: I love how she plays the "I'm a parent, you're a gamer, you couldn't understand" card... I'm a parent and I find her position despicable...05/23/2013 - 4:16pm
E. Zachary Knight: She didn't address your questions because she doesn't have any answers.05/23/2013 - 3:38pm
Andrew Eisen: I replied to her comment. Maybe in a few weeks I'll get a reply.05/23/2013 - 3:24pm
Thomas Riordan: @Andrew Eisen To what bowling alley does she go that puts sexual images in the faces of 6 year olds?05/23/2013 - 3:17pm
Andrew Eisen: Well, it took a month but Linda Stender finally replied to me... and didn't address a single one of my questions. http://aswlindastender.com/2013/04/23/follow-up-video-games-and-their-effect-on-children/05/23/2013 - 3:13pm
Imautobot: Also, from a tech perspective the PS4 is apparently already winning. http://bgr.com/2013/05/22/xbox-one-vs-playstation-4-specs/05/23/2013 - 3:12pm
Imautobot: Sony's PS4 motto should be "We play games." Microsoft's should be "We play games, when we're not rewinding your tapes."05/23/2013 - 3:11pm
Andrew Eisen: Oh look, Dying Light was just announced For Everything But Wii U. That's 73.05/23/2013 - 2:06pm
james_fudge: Zippy: they said the same thing about Cell. How did that turn out.05/23/2013 - 1:28pm
Andrew Eisen: Need for Speed Rivals is coming out For Everything But Wii U - PS3, 360, PC, PS4 and Xbox One. That brings the grand total up to 72.05/23/2013 - 12:55pm
PHX Corp: http://wiiudaily.com/2013/05/microsoft-is-selling-the-wii-u-better-than-nintendo/ Wii U daily Opinion: Microsoft is selling the Wii U better than Nintendo05/23/2013 - 12:23pm
E. Zachary Knight: Zippy, they very well may be. But that will only last until they are released. At that time, they will be two generations behind.05/23/2013 - 11:14am
ZippyDSMlee: for a good luagh, http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124288-EA-Exec-Xbox-One-and-PS4-Are-A-Generation-Ahead-Of-PC05/23/2013 - 10:55am
james_fudge: It's about time! I need W805/23/2013 - 10:49am
MaskedPixelante: Looks like Gamepot is more willing to play ball than Square Enix. Wizardry 6+7 and 8 are available on GOG.05/23/2013 - 10:36am
E. Zachary Knight: New Humble Bundle Weekly Sale. Alan Wake: https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly No Linux or Mac support. :(05/22/2013 - 1:46pm
E. Zachary Knight: Microsoft talks about the lack of backward compatability. You're backwards. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/192801/If_youre_backwards_compatible_youre_really_backwards.php05/22/2013 - 1:39pm
E. Zachary Knight: That is absolutely nuts there. As bad an experience XBox Indie Games was, the problems weren't with the self published side of things. Forcing a publisher onto independent studios is not going to help.05/22/2013 - 10:43am
MaskedPixelante: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-22-microsoft-wont-let-indies-self-publish-on-xbox-one And the hits just keep on coming.05/22/2013 - 9:20am
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Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
That 'Liberal agenda' part just seems to summarise the problems with US politics today to me - paranoid bouts of tribalism, where any different viewpoint is against the status quo of conservatives.
Colonisation - how dare this game penalise you for destroying native villages?!
Civilisation - how dare this game allow you to promote a non-Christian religion?!
Fallout - how dare this game promote the US government (Enclave) as an enemy faction?!
Etc.
Where does it end?
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
OH they did jump on Fallout once, but it wasn't that.
It was over one of the promo images showing a destroyed house of representatives. They said it was either drawn by a terrorist or was encouraging terrorists.
Would have hated to see their reaction that in Fallout 3 the White house is just a crater. During the Bush years it would have ben seen as encouraging terrorists, now, it would have been seen as what needs otbe done.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
I think video game bashing in the media has officially jumped the shark. They are bashing educational and edutainment games now? Is that really what they are reduced to? Vilifying games are part of the left biased media, saying that Typing Tutor 2 may be pushing the "liberal agenda" on your kids?
I laughed so hard when I watched this spot.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
I love your stuff AE, but you can pick a harder target than Fox. :D
-Austin from Oregon
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Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
I would have thought Fox News was about the only news you watched.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
I love the quick shots to the overly concerned and offended women we are to assume are not paid actors.
This is about as propaganda as it gets. The McDonalds game, really?! That game was build from the ground up to make McD's look bad, it's part of the assigned "reading" in Video Game Rhetoric, and Honors Video Game Studies (my class) here on campus. Of course it's offensive, it's a persuasive game, but playing it off as mainstream is much easier.
If anyone is interested: http://www.mcvideogame.com/index-eng.html
My favorite part is having to manage how much trash and waste you feed the cattle in order to archive just the right mix of mutant growth without making your customers glow in the dark.
Stay classy FOX.
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Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
I kind of tuned out when he said "liberal agenda".
I mean, have ANY of them watched someone play Sim City? People I've seen play the games have too much fun with natural disasters. And I don't see how teaching someone a corporation should be penalized for dumping waste in a river is a bad thing.
I mean, shit, people being smug about it and green-washing aside, how is going green a bad thing? Plus most of the games mentioned are either years old or flash games, so all they did was just make these games attractive to rebellious kids.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
I don't remember the specifics... but last I played a Sim City game I remember you can let your city drop down to about the third level of hell before you suffer any major repercussions from letting pollution run out of control. I mean, sure, the people are miserable and complain and such, but as long as you can scrape up enough taxes to build that 4x12 heavy industrial zone down the middle of your low cost housing district and cap each end with a military base, the other penalties aren't that harsh.
Don't forgetting summoning Godzilla to eat it all once your population tops the million mark. Having a hard time seeing the liberal agenda here.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
Actually, since SimCity 4 it's gotten extremely difficult to have a city over 300k people. The populace actually moves out, it's no fun.
-Austin from Oregon
Feel free to check out my blog.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
Thats because Progressives are so into their idealogy they cannot see out of the prism of their own way of thinking to where anything they disagree is wrong outright and if someone has a problem with that they must be troll, sad or just don't understand the big picture....or someone to laugh at
QUICK GET THE LOCAL LIBERAL GRAMMER NAZI have him pick at every little thing so we don't have to focus on the point which was in the message or just deflect everything and just insult and use some saul alinsky style tactics!
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
So you go off on a rant about ideology and seeing things through prisms, rather than actually saying where the "liberal agenda" is in the game, and then you're surprised that people think you're a troll?
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
I actually know this guy in real life and he IS a troll. He actually has pretty liberal beliefs but he likes to troll people on the Internet by pretending he is a hard line, la-di-da right winger.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
That works?
I thought that, by now, everyone with at least three functional brain cells would've long ago tuned out anything showing even remotely on the Poe's Law meter.
It's just too blatant.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
Whether Shahab is telling the truth or not, you still aren't setting us straight on where you see the liberal agenda in that example. So, one way or another, you ARE trolling, its a simple fact.
Traditionally, trolls have tried to garner an emotional response, but these days its seems all a troll needs to be considered successful is for people to actually reply. Sad times.
Re: Video: Your Mom Hates Fox News Too
Is your keyboard missing a period key?