Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

November 30, 2012 -

According to this Reddit thread Sega has been forcing YouTube users to remove videos relating to the Sega Saturn hit strategy RPG Shining Force III. Many are speculating that Sega is doing this to prepare for the launch of a new PSP installment in the Shining series, Shining Ark, which will launch in Japan in February.

But whatever the reasoning behind the takedowns, Sega has angered a lot of fans who just want to share clips from one of their favorite classic video games. In fact some YouTube users are taking down more than just Shining Force III videos. Popular YouTube video game critic TotalBiscuit has decided to remove all Sega content from his page in protest.

Apparently Sega is targeting all kinds of content including "Let's Plays," walkthroughs, and random gameplay clips. Even videos of fans talking about the Shining series with no game footage have been flagged by Sega for copyright violations...

Source: Destructoid


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Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

Sega Dude A: "Hey, it looks like there are a bunch of people who really enjoy this series of games that we are about to release a sequel to.  They play and share and talk about them to this day!"

Sega Dude B: "You know what would be a great idea?  Let's shit all over these people by not allowing them to talk about the old games any more.  Then they'll have to get the new one so they can keep discussing this series they love!  Isn't that a great plan?"

Sega Dude A: "..."

Sega Dude B: "..."

Sega Dude A: "You are a goddamn genius.  Let's do this!"

Sega Dude B: "SEND IN THE LAWYERS!"

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

So I was checking the Sega forums, and they have a theory that the lead designer of the Shining games, who has openly slandered old Shining games and the fanbase, is ordering the takedowns.

http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?426790-Freaking-seriously

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Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

That is a really good point. We keep assuming it's SEGA, but really, anyone can send a takedown notice.

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

Actually, the person ordering the takedowns IS using a "Sega.co.jp" email. That's part of why everyone thinks it's the designer of new Shining Force.

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Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

If that's the case, it proves how utterly terrible YouTube's system is, and how pathetically easy it is to abuse.

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

Less 'proves' and more 'rehighlights'.

I think the big thing it re-shows that people need to remember is that fair use is completely irrelevant.  Youtube's process operates in an extra-legal manner, they are a private company and thus can allow or drop anything they want.  So all the legal arguments of 'but this is allowed' do not actually matter.  What matters to Youtube is pleasing the studios while not alienating too much of their user base.  The law.. as long as they can say they are responding to takedowns, does not really come into play.

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

Youtube's takedown system has always been like that. Copyright bots are a big problem over there.

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Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

I don't think it matters since Sega chooses to not release the series in the states. other than whoring out the first Genesis game onto anything with a screen and selling for $3.

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

Maybe it is there way of advertising without spending money?

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Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

"Even videos of fans talking about the Shining series with no game footage have been flagged by Sega for copyright violations..."

If this is true, Sega has opened itself up to counter suits. I hope someone has the guts and money to do it.

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

Sadly, the systems that are often put in place, whether it's YouTube or many other sites who have to deal with DMCA claims, make it really easy to get content pulled.

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

So, tell me, Sega.  How exactly does this benefit you?

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

My best guess, or at least my best guess at what they are thinking, is that if they are releasing a new version they want to insure that when people go searching for "Shining Force" the hits they get back are of the new game rather then beloved footage of the older ones.

I conclude this partly because they have started uploading their own videos for the new game.. so maybe they were pissed off when they did searches and the new stuff they are pushing didn't get as high of billing as they wanted, but they were unwilling to pay youtube to get it highlighted.

So they are not only being jerks, but cheap jerks.

Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

YouTube is rife with takedown abuse, I had 3 vids with copy right issues  their system checked them as being owned but they once they  "manually" checked it they figured out it was nothing to copy right.

 

Another video that I had to remove gave me a black mark/strike on their proactive infringement BS system which should work I have 3 plus and 1 negative, so I am 2 plus in non infringement.

 

Hell they don't even give information on the copy right owner just a fucking name. How can you contest a claim if a name is all you get? Its BS....


Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Let's renegotiate them.

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Re: Sega Targets 'Shining Force' Videos on YouTube

Oh wow. If this is true, Sega has just lost themselves a whole lot of fans. If there is anything that ticks of fans more than this kind of behavior, I have yet to see it.

 
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