Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

December 15, 2012 -

The news media, quick to find a cause for why a lone gunman would kill his mother, drive to a local elementary school, and kill 26 people (20 children) before killing himself, has turned to the usual scapegoat: video games. While it is understandable that people want answers, Fox News wastes no time in trying to connect TV, Facebook, and computer games to the horrific actions of Lanza. As transcribed by Kotaku, a Fox News segment hosted by Megyn Kelly with guest analyst Dr. Keith Ablow waste no time pointing the finger at the consumption of various types of media:

Kelly: The real question to you is why have there not been more things like this in the past and what is making them seem to come out now?

Ablow: You know you and I have both spoken about this on and off the air, and I fear that our level empathy just as a culture, as a society, is being diminished by things like reality TV and like Facebook that seem to take people to a kind of fictional realm. I guess you could add gaming to that, computer games.

Later in the segment Ablow says that "…such that now people feel less for one another, they can think of them almost as third parties, or entertainment figures or animated creatures, and for the people among us who are vulnerable to acts of violence who are violently ill, if you will, that means they consider others even less than ever before."

Michael Tresca, author of the book "The Evolution of Fantasy Role-Playing Games," takes apart Ablow's theories in this excellent Examiner article. You can watch the Fox News clip in question to your left.

While Fox News is blaming media, other networks are using the tragedy as an opportunity to call for stricter gun control laws and for more funding for mental health services.

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Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Per capita, Israel and Switzerland have as many guns as the US but their crime rates are nowhere near as bad as ours.

There IS a direct relationship to stiffer gun control laws and less gun violence -- however, guess which state has among the toughest gun control laws? (CT is #5)

New media reports coming out that Mom was a "prepper." If son was deluded about a "final solution" did he take out the #1 person who mattered to him and young innocents?

Sorry: gaming gets to join guns on the "blame" list -- just as many on here wanna brand FOX as a culprit, too. News Flash: I don't care WHICH network you're watching, THIS news story and its coverage SELLS! THIS is what makes reporters, producers, directors BLOOD FLOW (pun intended) -- despite the horrors of it; the slaughter of little children. ALL networks are fear-mongering right now. They merchandise fear. That's what they do best. Meanwhile, politicians are already lining-up their legislation in which the primary motivation is "this will get me re-elected." Gaming's in the cross-hairs, with AK-47s and semi-automatic handguns.

I don't dig the blaming of FOX. That's too lazy and too easy. You're complaining of a fear-mongerer...when you're actually being a "fear-mongerer" about what you deem a fear-mongerer. T. Jefferson said, "Every generation needs a new revolution." You wanna pick a culprit? Fox News is too easy. The headline for this blog entry is SEXY, huh? It nabbed me! But stepping up and helping out an Aspie or his parents? Mom caves and/or flips-out. Dad leaves the family and marries his on-the-side. Older brother, alientated, self-imposes an exile to The City. WHO wants to step-up and Help THAT bunch of freaks, right? A perfect storm. The implosion happens. VOILA! We have a kickin' NEWS STORY! And 10 days before Christmas, too! WONDERFUL!

Fear. Cut it to the bone: it's the bottom-line motivator for most of our decisions: Fear. And labeling conspirators (gaming), culprits (news networks) or forces that make you powerless?

Beauty.

And two months from now? The 20 kids are kinda forgotten. Evil will sing you to sleep again.

Shame on us all.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Eh, thinking about it, at least Fox gave it a day, unlike JT did with that Virginia Tech shooting. He gave it ,what, an hour after word got out?

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Well, Fox News has money to be made off of such accusations. Even sadder are internet commenters who should know better, ot claim they know better. Usually looking for a reason other than that there might have been something mentally wrong or that people in general have the capacity to be monsters.

 

One of the many reasons I advocate that few if any news sites allow comments.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Lets not just jump on the blame Fox bandwagon.

Cnn did it first.

EDIT:Wrong article. Have to find the one from day one where they had a guest come on and blame video games.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/colorado-gov-to-cnn-video-games-may-be-the-re...
 

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

From http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/article-16140-creating-violence.html

"Unfortunately, as our population continues to grow and people endeavor to be relevant in a world that considers all life trivial, we may find greater instances of this type of violence. As long as the press glorifies it on Page One, there will always be incentive to be evil."

 

 

 

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

I knew this was coming. Apparently Fox News thinks it knows better than the police as to the killer's motive and that is the only entities they know how to blame: Video games and social media. If that was actually true though, then we'd all be killing eachother right now. Ah well. Sensationalist news station is sensational.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

If you're going to target Facebook and video games, then you might as well blame Faux News, too.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Well this train's never late.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

I think we need to Finally turn the Blame back on the News Media for Glorifying these Shooters such as Adam Lanza.

America has just became its own version of the Jerry Springer Show after a bizarre moment in Florida involving a carnival worker.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

The good news is too many scapegoats spoil the lynch mob. Guns, games, Facebook... everbody going everywhere at once means no one gets wrongfully hanged.

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I am not sure I share your optimism about no one getting hanged for this.  We might not see one big monolithic attack, but I could easily see a bunch of crackdowns.  Since friday I have seen a tone shift towards 'why do we allow the mentally ill to be free?', and given how horrible our mental health system is, I would not be surprised to see a crackdown...

Which, given the way the system is currently set up, would be a boon to the for-profit prison system.  Look at how effective that lobby has been at filling its cells with non-violent drug offenders.. I could easily see them quietly pushing to make the threshold for locking away the mentally ill lower... right now if you can't afford treatment it is one of the few options available as it is.

Though I suspect what we will really see after this is an even larger percentage of tax dollars poured into 'upper middle class white school security'.  Which hurts the entire educational system.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

I get the strage feeling they would push to where it could be possible for someone like me to be locked up.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Having known people who were forced into an institution for 'worrying others'.... not that implausible.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

And now news outlets (including Fox News) are tying in speculation that Lanza may have had a form of high-functioning autism (such as Asperger's) and are now trying to drum up fear and prejudice against people on the high end of the autistic spectrum...

As both a gamer and an Aspie, I feel that people need to keep an open mind and realize that all gamers and Aspies/autistics are NOT going to become murderers, and should NOT be collectively punished and/or ostracized for the pain and suffering that a select few disturbed individuals who happen to be in both categories have caused. Perhaps ironically, the hatred and ignorance directed at autistics and gamers might possibly be an even bigger factor in the cause of incidents like this, more so than the gunman being autistic and/or a gamer himself?

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Makes me glad I'm no longer in school.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

They're not the first. I'm ADHD, and was my class voted me "Most Likely To Pull a Columbine."

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Cars made him do it! Since cars kill more people than guns do.

 

 

uhg sensationalism...............


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Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

I'm not entirely certain one show having on one guest who makes said claims can be called "the network placing blame."

If a GP editor interviewed JT who blamed this on gaming, would GP as a whole be blaming gaming?

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

trick is, fox news hires these people, often under false pretense, and feeds them bad info.

then gets them to spew random speculation off said bad info in order to push their agenda. In the past this has damaged people reputations, and many still don't believe that the person was merely ill-informed more so than prejudiced.

in the past they've even been busted pulling random people and labeling them "experts" despite having little, or no, experience in said field.

in the case of GP and JT. GP wouldn't necessarily be deliberately seeking those answers ( they might), but rather JT would already have them ahead of time.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

This guy isn't a Fox News employee.  That kills the whole argument right there.

I'm well aware of the fact that Fox News got this guy knowing what he'd say to drum up controversy.  However, unless you can prove the guy's on FN's payroll, it isn't their view, just as JT's spewing wouldn't be GP's view in my example.

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

i didn't say they needed to be a fox news employee.

rarely does fox use their own people for this either. they take uninformed people (maybe hire was the wrong term to use), give them barely anything JUST before going on they air, then feed them more in order to push an attack in the direction they want.

the less a person knows the better, that way they can be directed/pushed into a direction they want/need the story to go. And using employees for this would make it too obvious. thus they find random "experts" to do it with.

for the record too, i'd like to state i doubt fox is the only ones to do this. Merely that they've become known for doing it to often.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Care to back up ANY of that?  Or are you just spouting shit to jump on Fox News, when CNN was the first news organization to interview someone blaming gaming?

--- With the first link, the chain is forged.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

It gets worse when you consider that many major newsgroups pointed the finger at the wrong person.

And people wonder why I don't listen much to the news these days...

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

it gets even worse when you consider that it was Faux News who first pointed the finger at the wrong person

岩「…I can see why Hasselbeck's worried about fake guns killing fake people. afterall, she's a fake journalist on a fake news channel」

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

More info gets around faster today than ever before -horrible things like this HAVE happened before we were just less likely to hear about it. Society is becoming less violent when you look at the big picture.

Fox news is a fear monger and ratings whore - I'm sure they are quite happy with themselves right now for being so daring and provocative. Hard to drum up controversy saying obvious stuff like "loose cannon is loose!" - morons and opportunists all!

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Reality TV now there's a reason to want to kill people right there. I'll agree with that one.yes

People never seem to make the connection to why this happens more often now than any other time in history is because we're pumping kids full of more drugs now more than ever. When you're pumping hormonally imbalanced teenagers full of drugs known to cause psychosis, hallucinations, rage, etc. you're creating a time bomb. I know what it did to me which was basically making me go from wanting to kill just me to everyone around me, blacking out whenever I would get angry and it's a really scary thing. Thankfully, I was old enough to say I'm not going to take that any more but imagine doing that to someone who can't say that like a child or someone who isn't smart enough to realise what's happening to them. Take the natural rage that teenagers go thru due to changing hormones, add to that the average shit they have to put up with from parents, teachers, friends, bullies, etc., add one of these fun little drugs to add to that and then add idiot parents telling them "the doctors say this is making you better, keep taking it" when told this stuff makes me feel this way I don't want to take it no more. Imagine how pissed off that is going to make someone and then wonder why these things happen.

Stricter gun laws aren't going to do anything to stop this. If someone wants a gun bad enough they're going to find a way to get it. The legality of how it's obtained isn't really going to matter one bit. If you're fucked in the head enough to want to go into a elementary school and slaughter children do you really think having to kill someone in order to get your hands on a gun is really going to make a difference? The only way it would make a difference is if the criminal gets killed in the process of trying to obtain the guns. What the hell would his mother need 3 guns for anyways? I mean the glock okay for home/self protection maybe but 2 semi-automatic rifles. Ease of access makes crime much easier.

Lack of empathy? You want to blame something for that how about putting the blame where it belongs on news media and people like Jack Thompson. Because I know this certainly didn't surprise me and my first thought wasn't "that's terrible" it was "ugh this shit again. I wonder what scapegoat they'll try to pin it on this time" Every time something like this happens it's the same old story "violent media is to blame" despite there being the fact that violent crime has decreased as violent media has become more popular and that without violent media there would be more violence in the world. "Stricter gun control laws" despite the fact that it would do nothing. "Guns don't kill people, people do" despite the fact that people who don't have guns tend not to kill people with guns. Someone with programming skills needs to make a wheel of scapegoats because that's all news media cares about not the truth. We'll never know the truth so they'll just make something up.

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"People never seem to make the connection to why this happens more often now than any other time in history[...]"

Except it doesn't. Statistics show us violent crimes, even mass murders, are dropping pretty steadily over time, starting 30-50 years ago. And while the big media would like you to believe otherwise, spreading this misinformation is not actually making anyone safer.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Pretty much. The world hasn't gotten more violent, the news of it just spreads faster.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

Trying to deflect a moral panic against your domain into someone else's makes you no better then Fox News.

Re: Fox News Tries to Tie TV, Facebook and Gaming to CT Tragedy

yeah, global media, excessive exposure, and the power of suggestion have nothing to do with it...

the idea's being planted, the insane are merely taking it.

 
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