Vice President Joe Biden Says That 'We Shouldn't Be Afraid of the Facts' on Video Game Violence

January 24, 2013 -

As part of a White House / Google Hangout event to discuss gun violence, Vice President Joe Biden said that when it comes to research on video game violence "we shouldn't be afraid of the facts." His remarks were in response to a question about the possible connection between gun violence and video games. A rough transcript of the Vice President's remarks can be found below or you can go watch the video in this Kotaku article:

"Let the facts work.. including out here in California - including with regard to the entertainment industry. There is no hard data as to whether or not these excessively violent video games in fact cause people to engage in behavior that is anti-social - including using guns. There is one study done - I think it was the American Academy of Pediatrics. They said if you watch 3 -6 hours of - kids watching 3 -6 hours of video games (and a lot of kids do that) - can lead to aggressive behavior. They didn't make the next connection saying that leads to violent behavior. But there's no studies done, so I recommended to the President that we do significant research. Let the CDC, let the National Institute of Health, let these people go out and look at the pathology that's behind this - if there is a pathology related to gun violence. We shouldn't be afraid of the facts."

These comments follow a meeting earlier in the month with Biden's Gun Violence Commission that included researchers, the ESA, ESRB, and video game executives. The President later recommended that the CDC study the effect of video game violence on children as it relates to gun violence.

Source: Kotaku


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Re: Vice President Joe Biden Says That 'We Shouldn't Be ...

You know what made me "aggressive" as a teenager? Having to wake up at 5:50am to get to class at 7:20am and not having a dammned Starbucks or McDonalds to get a cup of coffee at.

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There is nothing to fear because there is no link. So you will shut up now yes?


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Facts aren't what we fear, douchebag.  And the facts are obviously not what you want, because there are already plenty of them to be had already.

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There is no hard data as to whether or not these excessively violent video games in fact cause people to engage in behavior that is anti-social - including using guns.

 

Maybe because there isn't any connection at all...

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I'm not afraid of the facts. I'm afraid of politicians who bend or make up the facts in order to push a political agenda.

Re: Vice President Joe Biden Says That 'We Shouldn't Be ...

I'm afraid of scientists that are prevented from studying objectively because they were hired by a party that wants a specific result. Whether to defend themselves or to push their ideas on others.

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Re: Vice President Joe Biden Says That 'We Shouldn't Be ...

Most games side with President Obama and Vice President Biden because they're politics are aligned. Now we've come to a point (again) that our favorite pastime is being threatened. Whether its Guns, Video Games, Comics, TV or any other hobby its being blamed for horrible events.

We have crazy people among us well will always have crazy people among us. Fact is anything could set these people off down to what someone is wearing.

 

It is expected we the people should have protection against people like this and those in Government who would try to take away our liberty. That is what the second amendment is for!

I am not a big fan of leftist media Gawker (Kotaku) because they ran a fair article about Bill O’Reilly defending games. I recommend everyone to take a look at it and remember we need better representation in Congress!

http://kotaku.com/5970312/bill-oreilly-talks-about-video-games-and-viole...

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You are NOT a fan of Kotaku because they ran a FAIR article about Bill O'Reilly? And then you recommend it?

I'm confused.

Second Amendment is about allowing civilians to carry weapons if the government ever tried to prevent a revolution.

The second amendment wasn't implmented so people can threaten to use their weapons if their hobby was examined for any possibility it could harm the public welfare.

There are no studies that show no causal relation between violence and games. Because it has never been studied in that narrow context and it is VERY hard to prove any causal link between things. You can show studies that prove no cicumstancial link between games and violent acts, But a actual cause and effect link is very hard to prove.

But it is ALWAYS a good idea to continue to study what affects us as human beings. For so long the NRA has prevented the CDC from studying gun ownership with any type of medical history and certainly no studies on gun violence related to one's history.

Researchers could look at a case by case, but group comparisons were prevented until Obama's recent executive orders.

Don't be so defensive that you stop relating to the other party otherwise you'd never see eye-to-eye on anything.

-Mrxknown_JG-

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Actually, don't want to be rude, but you CAN'T prove causality. At least not with our understanding of the universe so far. It's annoying, but you can't prove gravity. I can, however, give you a theory that will explain its behavior to the best of my knowledge, theory which may includes link like one object affecting another over distance and such and "prove" this theory to a level of comfort where we don't feel the need to question it further until a better theory/a contradicting fact pops up (99.9999999% is really good as far as making sure of something.)

Anyway, your point still stand, but I just wanted to point that if anyone waits for causality to be demonstrated, he can wait for a long, long time ;)

 

PS: Sole exception -> Mathematics.

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Facts are not what we are afraid of.

What we are afraid of are people who conduct scientifically unsound studies, draw unjustified conclusions, and then tout tainted results as facts.

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It's not like it hasn't happened before.

Re: Vice President Joe Biden Says That 'We Shouldn't Be ...

Yes, exactly that...and "studies" launched in this kind of witch-hunt political environment have a high capacity from skew and bias.

Re: Vice President Joe Biden Says That 'We Shouldn't Be ...

Huh...the comments are actually strange and display how little the VP still understands.  There are in fact a number of studies of aggression, which have been inconsistent.  What the AAP did was not a study at all, but simply released a policy statement.

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There is one study done - I think it was the American Academy of Pediatrics. They said if you watch 3 -6 hours of - kids watching 3 -6 hours of video games (and a lot of kids do that) - can lead to aggressive behavior. They didn't make the next connection saying that leads to violent behavior.

One can and will argue that aggressive behavior and violent behavior are one and the same. This doesn't make a difference to the anti-gaming crowd.

But there's no studies done, so I recommended to the President that we do significant research. Let the CDC, let the National Institute of Health , let these people go out and look at the pathology that's behind this - if there is a pathology related to gun violence. We shouldn't be afraid of the facts.

You just said there is one study done and then you turn around and say there's no studies done. How about not wasting tax payer dollars and the CDC's time on another pointless studio because once again when there is proof that violent entertainment does not lead to real world violence the idiots who think it does will just stick their fingers in their ears and go "la la la la la" like they have every other time before. These people are not interested in facts. You can present them with facts until you're blue in the face and still no matter what you can't fix stupid.

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Moral panic lynch mobs.

It's infuriating how people don't seem to see how all the previous things that were going to destroy our youth managed to do no such thing, then they turn around when they get older and pull a new one out of their 4$$..

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Re: Vice President Joe Biden Says That 'We Shouldn't Be ...

eh, I think some of it has nothing to do with it destroying youth, and more to do with them being afraid it might give people some ideas that they deem dangerous.

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The phrase "a pathology related to gun violence" would seem to indicate that he's not really interested in going after the video game industry.  It's just politically easier than going after the gun lobby directly, at least at the moment.  I think what they're trying to pull is subtly getting funding back to the CDC and NIH to do actual research into gun violence, because it's actually been completely defunded since the gun lobby is so powerful.  I hope that's their end game and they're just playing their cards close to the chest.

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Heh, Riley Freeman summed it wonderfully.

 

"Would you rather go after some rube with a warehouse full of AK47s, or a nerd behind a computer?"

 
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