MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for Cosplayers

September 4, 2013 - GamePolitics Staff

Apparently a Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain character is getting redesigned to be more "erotic" according what game director Hideo Kojima wrote in a series of tweets today. This, he believes, will make the character more appealing for cosplay.

"I've been ordering to Yoji [Shinkawa, the game's art director] to make the character more erotic, and he did it well," wrote Kojima on his English Twitter account. "Recently I've been making characters this way. I create the setting thoroughly, how he/she spent early life, name, style, favorite phrase, fashion, action, to stand the character out."

"The initial target is to make [you] want to do cosplay or its figurine to sell well," he added.

Kojima also said that he plans on providing detailed information on the CG model for Quiet, who is described as a "mute, bikini-clad sniper" who was first revealed the MGS 5 E3 trailer. That information will be released this Friday during the Tokyo Game Show. Kojima claims that fans wanted this information because they wanted to cosplay the character, but he also said that the new and more erotic outfit for Quiet might be "too complicated" for cosplayers to replicate...

"This one may not be cosplayable [...] What if no one would do Quiet cosplay at TGS even [if I give] the info...lol?"

Is this a step backwards for the industry which is often criticized for creating over sexualized female video game characters, or simply a matter of cultural differences? We'll leave it to you to decide.

Source: Polygon


Comments

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

Reading the Tweets, I don't think Kojima's saying the character is getting redesigned to be even more sexy.  I think he means he asked her to be designed that way in the first place and this is the result.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

That still seems incredibly stupid.

If somebody wants to make a character erotic looking in cosplay, they'll find a way. Cosplayers don't seem to need any help with that.

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

true dat, just ask mistress cheif, or the fem troopers of the imperial legion...

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

Yeah.. I do not buy it.  I know plenty of female cosplayers who are very happy to dress up as characters who are not super-sexualized.

Sure, the cosplayers who make the photospread for big events or 4chan are all sex-bombs, but they are hardly representative of the wider cosplay community.

Crow, I think cosplay is one of the few areas where the female crossdressers outnumber the male ones because they get sick of the 'super sexy' outfits born out of male fantasy.

Thus I suspect Kojima is just giving a flimsy justification for why he and his buddies want sexed up female characters.   "it is not us, the market demands it!" bullshit.

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

Because we're so short on oversexualised female characters.

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

You want to make the character more erotic?  She's already wearing a thong bikini, ripped hose and a utility belt.

 

Andrew Eisen

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

That is her outfit in the game? Exactly where is she doing her sniping? Baywatch? The Playboy Mansion? Hardly seems a decent outfit for a military/spy campaign.

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

but.. but.. women in practical outfits like the men don't sell games! and think of the poor cosplayers! what will the professional models hired for industry spreads and nubile teenage girls do without his wisdom and artistic foresight to guide their costume design?? think of the children! 

Besides, we all know women are just moving mannequins there for him and his buddies, it is not like they are gamers or designers or people or anything...

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

Well, we're talking about a video game character, not a real woman.  A video game character *is* a moving mannequin for him and his buddies.  And if a cosplayer doesn't want to cosplay Quiet, nobody is going to force them to.  So...  what exactly is the problem here?

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

Yeah, thing is, writing and art like that does not exist in a vacuum, it bleeds in from their actual life and how they are thinking of women down the line.   It is an easy trap to fall into when you have build a mostly male industry around you and one does not professionally interact with women much.  

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

been under a rock lately? the new big thing in the feminist movement is how games are abusing/sexualizing women.

Never mind all those insanely buff men that oft go shirtless too.. But they aren't being kidnapped ala princess peach either I suppose.

Apparently, as I was told anyways, you can't sexualize a man... 

Not saying we don't need more female leads, but I swear its a lost cause.

even if you go realistically athletic for a character its sexualized, go fat and lardy and its some other controversy about eating disorders among women...

For the record, I'm mostly being sarcastic (though I was actually told that you can't sexualize a man) I do see their point to a degree, but I still think their digging to find the complaints rather than actually having most.

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

Eh, I am not sure who is saying men can not be sexualized, the people who are unhappy with how women are portrayed generally do not make such a claim.  It is more that shirtless and muscle-bound is a power fantasy, not a sexual object.  It is true that some people find such imagry sexy, but it is completely possible to draw female characters that are sexy but not sex-object sexy (echergirls redraws are often examples of this).  I am not saying you were not told this,  just commenting that it is a silly argument and is not representative of the larger concern of how women are portrayed in games.

As for digging to find complaints, that is always a tricky issue.. but keep in mind that it is really not one's place to decide how much something matters to people in groups one is not part of.  When something is designed with your own group in mind, with producers and artists and funders generally coming form your group, and thus the problematic elements not really being perceptable since they do not tie back to one's own life or problems, it becomes easy to see those issues as not very important or even that they should not be voiced.  But the women unhappy with these things are not just pulling stuff out of their collective asses, they are tieing the imagry and artistic decisions back to real world problems that impact them from a young age.  They want to make things better for everyone.

While there are outliers who just want to un-sex women in general, they are mostly a small but vocal minority of 2nd wave feminists that still internalize a lot of shame.  Most of the 3rd wave is pretty sex positive and are all for sexy female characters, but how it is done matters.

Re: MGS5 Female Sniper 'Quiet' Getting 'Erotic' Makeover for ...

I'll never deny there is a fight to be had. But the concept that sexed up is just good looking/athletic women in costumes doing things, while the same can't be said of men is a lie.

The above does illustrate the bad side, and its just tasteless and stupid IMO. Even the reasoning is terrible. Surprisingly, it doesn't look like Hideo is even trying to hide that...

 
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