Yogscast to 'Yogventures' Backers: We're Not Obligated To 'Do Anything'

July 17, 2014 - GamePolitics Staff

Popular YouTube group Yogscast told Yogventures Kickstarter backers that developer Winterkewl Games "have stopped work on Yogventures - but this is actually a good thing." The Kickstarter, heavily promoted by Yogscast, raised $567,665 from over 13,000 backers.

"The project was proving too ambitious and difficult for them to complete with their six-man team," the email note. "While this was Winterkewl's project, we put a lot of time, energy and effort into trying to help them realise their dream. Since we heard the news, we've been working hard behind the scenes to make sure that you still get awesome stuff and cool experiences."

Eurogamer reports that a later email to backers from Yogcast tells backers that it is "under no obligation to do anything - instead we're going to do our best to make this right, and make you really glad you backed the project!"

So what are they doing to make it right to the 13,000 backers who pledged over half a million dollars? The group says that it is giving backer access to a different game called TUG, an open-world survival game that is currently being developed by Nerd Kingdom - who incidentally, signed an agreement with Yogscast to be partners on the project.

Earlier this week Yogscast announced a new initiative called YogDiscovery, whereby the group would promote a developer's game in return for a portion of its sales.

Source: Gamasutra, Eurogamer


Comments

Re: Yogscast to 'Yogventures' Backers: We're Not Obligated ...

Lack of obligation is why crowd funding will eventually turn toxic.

Re: Yogscast to 'Yogventures' Backers: We're Not Obligated ...

The thing is, there is a contractual obligation under KickStarter. And the Yogcast took 150 000$ from the devs because they didn't like how they managed that project. Sorry, but that puts them directly in the line of fire. They said they would hire another coder with that money and never did. The studio was woefully prepared for the size of the project, but that doesn't absolve them from the contract. And, if they go under and Yogcast takes the money, they fall under that same responsibility of "deliver or reimburse".

Re: Yogscast to 'Yogventures' Backers: We're Not Obligated ...

Well, to be fair, if you back a project on Kickstarter, you have to realize that things may just fall through. There is no guarantee that a product would make it to release. It's a risk and reward system.

Pre-Kickstarter and IndieGogo, when this kind of stuff would happen, where you paid money to help fund a project, there was not obligation, it was considered donation, and in return you got either shares or the actual product being backed. But you couldn't just expect to get anything. And I think that kind of expectation should be applied to projects on Kickstarter and IndieGoGo.

I'm sure this example I'm about to give has happened, but here it is anyway. Imagine a project successfully gets funded, and then due to maybe mismanagement or maybe just underestimating the original time and cost to do the project. The group ends up losing all that money trying to get the project out, but fails. And then people start calling for refunds. They can't get the refunds cause all that money has been spent.

I understand that people feel cheated when a project falls through, or the dev just ups and leaves. But that's the risk. It's not just a possibility, it's an inevitability for it to happen at some point to some projects. And it's not always the fault of the people who were doing the project.

 

Yogscast is atleast trying to do something, instead of just brushing it aside and ignoring it. I was one of their backers, yes. But I don't feel burned. I knew this could happen when I backed it, just like how I realized this kind of stuff could happen to other projects I have backed.

Projects I have backed in chronological order.

Double Fine Adventure, Yogventures, Twokinds Book Printing Drive, Caribbean Blue Volume One, Castle Story, Planetary Annihilation, Star Citizen, Distance - A Next Generation Racer, Planet Explorers, Caribbean Volume Two, Calcula's LVL UP!, Mighty No. 9, Shantae: Half-Genie Hero, Obduction, ROM: Read Only Memories, and Storium.

A lot of those are people I already knew about, seen their works, and so on. Yogscast, along with Planet Explorers, ROM, and Storium, were people that I had not seen much in terms of game work previously, and those I would consider a higher risk than say Obduction, which is from the people who made Myst (Cyan), or Distance who the developers made Nitronic Rush (A free game mind you, it's a recommendation. Parkour + Cars + Tron, fun combo)

 

Anyway, that's about what I really felt like saying. Hopefully this'll be a reminder or atleast an example to realize there is risk to backing these projects. Granted, the majority of the risk is that you're out of the money you gave them, freely of your will mind you.

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