Travis K: "Man you only further substantiate this when you talk about 1 guy in idaho getting the attention of the feds. You show me where even 25% of these served warrants were for the consumers of mod chips. Good luck."


And what bearing does the percentage of defendants who were end-users have on whether everyone here is "scared they might get dragged into the legal battles?" I for one have never modded a console, haven't bought a console in six years, and don't have much interest in buying another. I complain about this because I am a libertarian Anti-Federalist, not because I'm scared I'll get caught for something I don't do.

"This is no different than than making counterfeit drugs, counterfeit currency, trafficking in counterfeit goods, etc. The guys getting served warrants sell the chips; thats distribution. This is crime handled by Federal law. This shouldn’t be old news to anybody."

Yes, I am well aware of the DMCA, and the vast abuse of the Interstate Commerce clause which has brought us to the point that it can even appear legitimate. Cognizance, however, is a far cry from approval. Even if the law weren't so nefarious, I would still think that using ICE to secure our ports and borders is far more important than using them to go after mod chips..

"You just dont get it do you? I already stated above, Feds have to take a look at corporate loss when the company can show its greater than $5,000. Consider that theres a large distinction between traffic accidents at crosswalks and trafficking in counterfeit goods (in which in this case, its providing equipment which breaches the license agreement you accept when you buy the console, which is there to prevent counterfeiting; even so the equipment; mod chips; is being profited on)."

Over $5K and a massive piracy operation in interstate commerce, sure, let the Feds handle it. But DHS/ICE? Maybe if they catch some mod chips being imported (as in, Customs Enforcement), okay. But otherwise send in an FBI agent with some Sheriffs to serve a Federal warrant. I mean, really, is full-blown ICE raid necessary?

And one guy in Idaho with a single mod chip? He'd need a stack of a couple hundred pirated games to make a Federal raid worth the trip and worth bringing Federal charges against him. Even then, the mind boggles what kind of probable cause was used for such a fruitless raid..

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Posted 07/09/08 at 05:30am
gamepolitics: tetsuya, he doesn't have my fax # (or any of my #'s) since I moved last year.
Posted 07/09/08 at 12:40am
Jack Wessels: @PHOENIXZERO: Do you really think that would stop him?
Posted 07/09/08 at 12:29am
PHOENIXZERO: Wonder if Jack ever got the memo that attacking a judge, especially the one who presided over your own hearing will only make him look worse.
Posted 07/08/08 at 11:10pm
Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : Dennis you should post that story about JT insulting Judge Tunis. There might be more you could find that Kotaku missed.
Posted 07/08/08 at 08:32pm
lordlundar: Jack should realize that when you call everyone crazy, then the only crazy one is the you.
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:06pm
DarkTetsuya: @GP I just fear for the safety of your fax machine cause you didn't post it :P
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:02pm
PHOENIXZERO: @Krono Yeah, that's probably where it came from. Don't remember if a source was mentioned. Other than it being called a "story" or "study".
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:02pm
PHOENIXZERO: Because I was bored and channel surfing. =(
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:59pm
GRIZZAM PRIME: PHEONIXZERO, Why the hell are you watching CNN's sodomy butt baby(HLN)?
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:53pm
Krono: @PHOENIXZERO: Would that be the AP story about how schools should teach 11+ year old how to avoid abusive datings relationships?
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:34pm
PHOENIXZERO: Oh joy, new subject and they bring out Cooper Lawrence who takes a mention about videogames. It's a segment called "Sex Normal for 11-Year-Olds" having to do more so with mental and physical abuse in "relationships" of 11-14 year olds and not sex. >_<
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:28pm
PHOENIXZERO: Certainly a stupid segment with their "adolescent psychologist" and a game is different than a movie. Two callers, underwhelming. >_>
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:24pm
PHOENIXZERO: CNN has wanted to be Fox Jr since Fox started spanking them in the ratings and Turner was removed from power.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:11pm
PHOENIXZERO: UGH, they have the CT AG on there... He sounds like Jack.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:09pm
PHOENIXZERO: >_> You can call in 1-800-TELL-HLN.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:09pm
PHOENIXZERO: CNN HLN is doing a segment on Beer Pong with their other "morality" blowhard Mike Galanos.
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:47pm
Jabrwock: This just in! Jack insults someone. News@11
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mogbert: I think we can skip that story, we can't cover JT every time he insults someone, we would run out of server space...
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gamepolitics: nah, intentionally didn't post that... it's just a publicity grab... I only have so much JT tolerance, save 4 more relevant news
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Xlorep DarkHelm: Dennis doesn't post every little tidbit of information about Whacky-Jacky.
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