Submitted by Boffo97 - August 22, 2007 at 4:45 pm -050066.93.144.171
Sorry, but a lot of these are just dumb:
-Due Process & Habeas Corpus (instead of the usual ban hammer, a player tribunal, perhaps?)
For one thing, this would place the whole thing under a whole needless layer of complexity.
Who would serve on these tribunals? Obviously, the concept of jury duty would never fly in WoW, so it would have to be volunteer. How could you guarantee non-bias under this system? You could easily have "tribunal griefers", people joining to "hang them all" or "get the man off their backs" regardless of the facts in the cases at hand, and the company would be powerless to do anything about it and protect the integrity of their game.
Plus this would add huge delays to ANY complaint being acted upon.
No.
-Right to free avatar expression and assembly
Uh huh, except these huge and often pointless assemblies prevent legitimate play by causing huge lag, both graphically and connection latency-wise, in the area and hamper people actually trying to play the game in doing so.
-Non discrimination
Great, just make sure this extends all ways, not just to the popular causes.
-Right to transfer your whole account to another individual (you listening, Blizzard?)
A thousand times NO.
Any commercial MMO that would do this is doomed to fail, because, using WoW as an example, once you kill even one boar, you have permanently increased the value of an account beyond that of when you first activated it. Here by only a tiny amount, but still.
That said, anyone leaving the game would thus sell their accounts and only the world's biggest chumps would buy boxes from stores. This would completely negate all of the lower level content, which is essentially training for the upper levels.
That's why they (and pretty much every other major pay MMO) has made it so that nothing in the account is yours. Because we're all supposed to start at level 1 with only starter gear, and learn through the process. And those who do sneak around behind things and buy accounts are cheating.
Just because you think you can because "I own it and can do whatever I want with it." is no excuse, especially when playing a game with other people.
-Compensating users for service outages
If we start talking in terms of a week or so, then yes, any reasonable pay service should talk about compensation. If we're talking more like a day, especially regularly scheduled and unavoidable service outages, it's 50 cents, get over it.
-Permitting mashups and fan art
-Welcoming user-created content
These two kind of go together. They shouldn't be any kind of intrinsic right at all. What's there has been created by the developer. It belongs to them. If you created something and you wanted to grant these rights, bully for you. If you chose not to, you wouldn't be impressed by someone telling you you HAD to.
Posted 07/25/08 at 12:57am Artifex: http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/playstation-2-component-incites-african-war/1231745
Posted 07/25/08 at 12:57am Artifex: Yahoo has picked up the "Playstation War" story.
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:57pm gamepolitics: that whole running-for-bar-president was just another attention grab
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:26pm Silencets: Can a disbarred member become President? By the time of the election ol Jacko won't be a lawyo
Posted 07/24/08 at 01:45pm Dark Sovereign: A fitting metaphor lumi
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:21am lumi: their own. Looks like they're arguing with ghosts...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Ooh, and to prove the validity of their arguments, they've deleted all the comments from the gamers/outsiders, and just left
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Wow...there's worse invective and vitriol on that first feminist site's comments than in most gaming forums I've read...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:19am SimonBob: You guys can read the feminist blogs? One of 'em has over 1400 comments -- my browser locks up when I try to load the page!
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:49am M. Carusi: That's probably the message to describe hardcore feminism in general. :P
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:35am Tom90deg: Meh, it seems like most of the comments are "I'm right, and it you don't agree with me, you're a girl-hating masonogystic pig!"
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:30am M. Carusi: Those comment walls on the feminist blogs complaining about FP are generating some hilarious content.
Posted 07/24/08 at 08:48am E. Zachary Knight: @ lunatic, What you see is what you get. Once a comment gets pushed off it is gone forever.
Posted 07/24/08 at 07:39am sortableturnip: Best...comments...ever: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/07/06/jack-needs-your-help.aspx?pg=5&view=threaded
Posted 07/24/08 at 05:42am sortableturnip: Alteffor: I 2nd that motion. GP you should have a special section for all of JT's correspondence to you
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:15pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack is a repressed man. Don´t be surprised...
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:07pm GryphonOsiris: So Jack admitted paying for gay porn... all I can say is wow... just wow...
-Due Process & Habeas Corpus (instead of the usual ban hammer, a player tribunal, perhaps?)
For one thing, this would place the whole thing under a whole needless layer of complexity.
Who would serve on these tribunals? Obviously, the concept of jury duty would never fly in WoW, so it would have to be volunteer. How could you guarantee non-bias under this system? You could easily have "tribunal griefers", people joining to "hang them all" or "get the man off their backs" regardless of the facts in the cases at hand, and the company would be powerless to do anything about it and protect the integrity of their game.
Plus this would add huge delays to ANY complaint being acted upon.
No.
-Right to free avatar expression and assembly
Uh huh, except these huge and often pointless assemblies prevent legitimate play by causing huge lag, both graphically and connection latency-wise, in the area and hamper people actually trying to play the game in doing so.
-Non discrimination
Great, just make sure this extends all ways, not just to the popular causes.
-Right to transfer your whole account to another individual (you listening, Blizzard?)
A thousand times NO.
Any commercial MMO that would do this is doomed to fail, because, using WoW as an example, once you kill even one boar, you have permanently increased the value of an account beyond that of when you first activated it. Here by only a tiny amount, but still.
That said, anyone leaving the game would thus sell their accounts and only the world's biggest chumps would buy boxes from stores. This would completely negate all of the lower level content, which is essentially training for the upper levels.
That's why they (and pretty much every other major pay MMO) has made it so that nothing in the account is yours. Because we're all supposed to start at level 1 with only starter gear, and learn through the process. And those who do sneak around behind things and buy accounts are cheating.
Just because you think you can because "I own it and can do whatever I want with it." is no excuse, especially when playing a game with other people.
-Compensating users for service outages
If we start talking in terms of a week or so, then yes, any reasonable pay service should talk about compensation. If we're talking more like a day, especially regularly scheduled and unavoidable service outages, it's 50 cents, get over it.
-Permitting mashups and fan art
-Welcoming user-created content
These two kind of go together. They shouldn't be any kind of intrinsic right at all. What's there has been created by the developer. It belongs to them. If you created something and you wanted to grant these rights, bully for you. If you chose not to, you wouldn't be impressed by someone telling you you HAD to.