Submitted by Yuki - September 26, 2007 at 6:06 am -050024.251.32.23
While I like most of what was said, and think that a lot of there points are valid, the last one I take issue with.
" There’s a perception among the creators of media… that if for any reason, you are unable to market your wares in the manner you desire, you are being “censored.” …no one’s stopping you from making the game you want to make. But the customers — the retailers — aren’t always buying what you’re selling.
It isn’t censorship. It’s just a bad business model. We need to stop using the C-word before it loses all meaning in the discussion, and focus energies on crafting an effective business model that works for all parties."
The issue hre, is how do you know weather or not Manhunt 2 would have sold. The retailers won't let an Ao game be sold, the console makers won't let the game be Played.
Thats not a bussiness issue, thats a censorship issue. That being said, I think the issue has more to do with the ESRB. I've said a few times that the Publishers, game desginers, and the ESA should come down on them hard for there heavy handedness on Manhunt2. That being said, part of me thinks it was all an act by Esrb and Rockstar to make waves and get free publicity.
I will say this, and feel free to disagree if you like. The Ao rating should be removed from the list and replaced by a rating that is sellable at retail but Heavily enforced, like say, an 18 or something. The AO rating now, as it is, exsists for now other purpose to but act as a Ban Hammer for video games, and that voids its exsistance as a Rating in much the same way the X rating voided itself in the movie industry.
Thats just how I see it, but I think it's dead on the mark.
Posted 07/24/08 at 07:39am sortableturnip: Best...comments...ever: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/07/06/jack-needs-your-help.aspx?pg=5&view=threaded
Posted 07/24/08 at 05:42am sortableturnip: Alteffor: I 2nd that motion. GP you should have a special section for all of JT's correspondence to you
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:15pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack is a repressed man. Don´t be surprised...
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:07pm GryphonOsiris: So Jack admitted paying for gay porn... all I can say is wow... just wow...
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: to the case, and he's been on 60 minutes once!
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: GP, you should mention you'll be filing a legal injunction against him if he doesn't comply. Phoenix Wright will be attached
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:32pm Alteffor: You should add a section to the site for anything Jack CC's to you. It's always entertaining to read the stuff he writes.
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:31pm Matriculated: Does anyone know when the Supreme Court reaches their decission?
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:04pm Freyar: I demand to see this letter! (Not that I have any grounds to demand on.)
Posted 07/23/08 at 02:53pm gamepolitics: JT called me a "sock puppet" in an e-mail to Hal Halpin... i gave him 24 hours to retract it, LOL
Posted 07/23/08 at 02:46pm Haggard: Might want to take a look at what Anthony Horowitz wrote about GTA IV in the Telegraph, article seems to have been taken down
Posted 07/23/08 at 01:05pm Silencets: Beutiful. I always did wonder about Jacko Wacko
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:24am Matriculated: So Jack (an anti-gay activist) PAYED for gay porn
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:22am Matriculated: [i]...and purchased membership.[/i]
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:21am Matriculated: [i] few months later, as part of his ongoing campaign against Kent, Thompson followed links to gay porn on Kent's website[/i]
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:40am sortableturnip: Jack's at it again: http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2008/07/jack_thompson_faces_permanent.php
Posted 07/22/08 at 11:22pm PHOENIXZERO: Ugh, that CNBC program "Play to Win" is it? Is on again...
" There’s a perception among the creators of media… that if for any reason, you are unable to market your wares in the manner you desire, you are being “censored.” …no one’s stopping you from making the game you want to make. But the customers — the retailers — aren’t always buying what you’re selling.
It isn’t censorship. It’s just a bad business model. We need to stop using the C-word before it loses all meaning in the discussion, and focus energies on crafting an effective business model that works for all parties."
The issue hre, is how do you know weather or not Manhunt 2 would have sold. The retailers won't let an Ao game be sold, the console makers won't let the game be Played.
Thats not a bussiness issue, thats a censorship issue. That being said, I think the issue has more to do with the ESRB. I've said a few times that the Publishers, game desginers, and the ESA should come down on them hard for there heavy handedness on Manhunt2. That being said, part of me thinks it was all an act by Esrb and Rockstar to make waves and get free publicity.
I will say this, and feel free to disagree if you like. The Ao rating should be removed from the list and replaced by a rating that is sellable at retail but Heavily enforced, like say, an 18 or something. The AO rating now, as it is, exsists for now other purpose to but act as a Ban Hammer for video games, and that voids its exsistance as a Rating in much the same way the X rating voided itself in the movie industry.
Thats just how I see it, but I think it's dead on the mark.