Submitted by OtakuMan - September 26, 2007 at 12:23 pm -050072.196.147.28
I personally don't like Rap music. I don't associate with it as I am not a gangsta', I am not pimpin', I am not "Ridin' Dirty", and I am definitly not one to associate with "Hoochies", "Hos", or "Hoochie Mamas".
I am "White and Nerdy"!
And PROUD of it!
As pointed out by "Johnny" here, the statistics for crime rates in the USA and Canada have been rather low and steadily dropping after peaking in 1991. That was more than 1.5 DECADES ago!
Because of this, Rap feels, to me anyway, like it's stuck in a time warp. I talks about life in the ghetto, being oppressed by the police, and then being all pimp by having bling, being crunk, and hanging with hoochies that just want them for money.
Furthermore, if Rap is about discussing real life and trying to motivate people, why is it that I see white guys in wife beaters, wearing backwards baseball caps, seashell necklaces, and clean shaven faces listening to 50 cent. My wife and I both want to roll down our windows and yell out:
"Dude, you're WHITE!"
Granted, we don't actually yell that out, but we are tempted to. And we also feel this way not because we are bigoted, but because what we see on a regular basis is an ironic reversal of what many rap artists say about their music.
David Banner was said, quote:
"I can admit that there are some problems in hip-hop, but it is only a reflection of what is taking place in our society. Hip-hop is sick because America is sick."
If it was a true reflection of society, then why do I see preppy looking white guys driving cars that no one could afford on a minimum wage salary, blasting DMX from their speakers? Is that not a kind of oxymoron as to what Rap was all about? They might as well have Pat Boone covering songs now.
Not all Rap artists buy into this. Will Smith, for one, but I believe he's more of a film actor now than a rap artist. What's more, go back to the rap of the 1980's and early 90's with Hip-Hop artists such as Run DMC, and modern rap pioneers such as Snoop Dogg.
The differences between what was produced THEN as opposed to NOW is practically day and night.
Anyway, enough of my tangent here.
The point I'm trying to make is that rap music says that they are doing social commentary? I find that hard to believe when the subjects in rap aren't about how poor a job President Bush is doing, about the war in Iraq, the unemployment rate, or the rise of technology in our daily lives.
NERDCORE is more relevant rap than RAP! Rapping about video games has more social context than rap!
Even more relevant was Weird Al's parody of modern rap with "White and Nerdy"! Most of the people in today's society are NERDS!
Some more nerdier than others.
You have:
The Goth Nerds
The Music Nerds
The Band Nerds
The Tech Nerds
The Gaming Nerds
The Sports Nerds (and if you play Madden, you are also a Gaming Nerd)
The Movie Nerds
The TV Nerds
The Role Playing Nerds
The Car Nerds
The Foreign Culture Nerds
Granted, by my normal Nerd definition, to be a Nerd requires a level of ACADEMIC geekery where you could school anyone, literally, on any academic subject. The above however are not so much academic topics, therfore they are not technically nerds...
...but geeks!
And it's okay to be Nerdy, Geeky, etc.
Geekery does not see color: only cool things that interest people. And people are realizing it as they expand into new and interesting territory.
By the definitions I have set forth, I also consider RAP as a form of geekery.
However, this form of geekery doesn't seem to mesh with other forms of geekery as it focuses HEAVILY on color and stereotypes in my opinion. It emphasizes and exploits differences in race and color, makes enemies out of law enforcement officers and local government, and highlights materialistic posessions and the defamation of women.
I do not see those things on a regular basis, and even when in neighborhoods that could be the "Bad side of town", I don't see drive by shootings, hookers, or criminal activity. I see people going on with their daily lives, struggling to keep a balanced budget, raise their kids, get groceries, commute to work and back again, talk to friends, play football or basketball in their yards, or just sit around and soak up the sun.
And all that is colorblind.
So when rap artists say, in so many words, "We're just calling it like we see it," then I say that I'd like to know just what the hell they are seeing and where. Cause I sure ain't!
Alright, enough tirading and preaching, and all that stuff. I'm going to admit that I could be wrong about many things. I don't listen to rap, I don't live in what would be considered a "bad neighborhood", and I don't frequently hang out with people who do listen to rap, or who have experienced the crimes spoken about in rap. I have known people who HAVE lived in bad neighborhoods, and those kids and their familes (hey, I'm still fresh out of college so I'm referring to people I knew back in high school) are more concerned about cool things coming out and getting by than drive-bys and hos.
So from my point of view and from what I've seen, rap is not "telling it like it is", but rather making it up and selling it to the people in their explicit lyric filled, awful sounding, fantasy world genre that I feel has been corrupted. I long for the old days of Hip-Hop, Soul, and Blues.
And that's what I think is missing from rap.
Don't lump games in with rap either. Games and rap are two separate entities. The closest fusion of the two was in GTA: San Andreas. However, that game was set in the early 90's when the crime rates were high and what was in rap was actually relevant. It was a time before the internet, advanced games, and the social changes of the Clinton administration. The game itself also tells the story in a fictional setting BASED on a historical America of 1.5 decades ago. The only thing closer to the rap genre is the Def Jam series of games, and the latest one was absolutely horrible.
There are also games from Japan, games from Europe, games from South Korea, and many games made in the USA that do not emphasize the negative things found in rap.
It boils down to this:
It's time to stop looking at things in terms of colors, but in terms of cultures and what they stand for.
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
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Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: to the case, and he's been on 60 minutes once!
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: GP, you should mention you'll be filing a legal injunction against him if he doesn't comply. Phoenix Wright will be attached
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:32pm Alteffor: You should add a section to the site for anything Jack CC's to you. It's always entertaining to read the stuff he writes.
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:31pm Matriculated: Does anyone know when the Supreme Court reaches their decission?
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:04pm Freyar: I demand to see this letter! (Not that I have any grounds to demand on.)
Posted 07/23/08 at 02:53pm gamepolitics: JT called me a "sock puppet" in an e-mail to Hal Halpin... i gave him 24 hours to retract it, LOL
Posted 07/23/08 at 02:46pm Haggard: Might want to take a look at what Anthony Horowitz wrote about GTA IV in the Telegraph, article seems to have been taken down
Posted 07/23/08 at 01:05pm Silencets: Beutiful. I always did wonder about Jacko Wacko
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:24am Matriculated: So Jack (an anti-gay activist) PAYED for gay porn
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:22am Matriculated: [i]...and purchased membership.[/i]
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:21am Matriculated: [i] few months later, as part of his ongoing campaign against Kent, Thompson followed links to gay porn on Kent's website[/i]
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:40am sortableturnip: Jack's at it again: http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2008/07/jack_thompson_faces_permanent.php
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I am "White and Nerdy"!
And PROUD of it!
As pointed out by "Johnny" here, the statistics for crime rates in the USA and Canada have been rather low and steadily dropping after peaking in 1991. That was more than 1.5 DECADES ago!
Because of this, Rap feels, to me anyway, like it's stuck in a time warp. I talks about life in the ghetto, being oppressed by the police, and then being all pimp by having bling, being crunk, and hanging with hoochies that just want them for money.
Furthermore, if Rap is about discussing real life and trying to motivate people, why is it that I see white guys in wife beaters, wearing backwards baseball caps, seashell necklaces, and clean shaven faces listening to 50 cent. My wife and I both want to roll down our windows and yell out:
"Dude, you're WHITE!"
Granted, we don't actually yell that out, but we are tempted to. And we also feel this way not because we are bigoted, but because what we see on a regular basis is an ironic reversal of what many rap artists say about their music.
David Banner was said, quote:
"I can admit that there are some problems in hip-hop, but it is only a reflection of what is taking place in our society. Hip-hop is sick because America is sick."
If it was a true reflection of society, then why do I see preppy looking white guys driving cars that no one could afford on a minimum wage salary, blasting DMX from their speakers? Is that not a kind of oxymoron as to what Rap was all about? They might as well have Pat Boone covering songs now.
Not all Rap artists buy into this. Will Smith, for one, but I believe he's more of a film actor now than a rap artist. What's more, go back to the rap of the 1980's and early 90's with Hip-Hop artists such as Run DMC, and modern rap pioneers such as Snoop Dogg.
The differences between what was produced THEN as opposed to NOW is practically day and night.
Anyway, enough of my tangent here.
The point I'm trying to make is that rap music says that they are doing social commentary? I find that hard to believe when the subjects in rap aren't about how poor a job President Bush is doing, about the war in Iraq, the unemployment rate, or the rise of technology in our daily lives.
NERDCORE is more relevant rap than RAP! Rapping about video games has more social context than rap!
Even more relevant was Weird Al's parody of modern rap with "White and Nerdy"! Most of the people in today's society are NERDS!
Some more nerdier than others.
You have:
The Goth Nerds
The Music Nerds
The Band Nerds
The Tech Nerds
The Gaming Nerds
The Sports Nerds (and if you play Madden, you are also a Gaming Nerd)
The Movie Nerds
The TV Nerds
The Role Playing Nerds
The Car Nerds
The Foreign Culture Nerds
Granted, by my normal Nerd definition, to be a Nerd requires a level of ACADEMIC geekery where you could school anyone, literally, on any academic subject. The above however are not so much academic topics, therfore they are not technically nerds...
...but geeks!
And it's okay to be Nerdy, Geeky, etc.
Geekery does not see color: only cool things that interest people. And people are realizing it as they expand into new and interesting territory.
By the definitions I have set forth, I also consider RAP as a form of geekery.
However, this form of geekery doesn't seem to mesh with other forms of geekery as it focuses HEAVILY on color and stereotypes in my opinion. It emphasizes and exploits differences in race and color, makes enemies out of law enforcement officers and local government, and highlights materialistic posessions and the defamation of women.
I do not see those things on a regular basis, and even when in neighborhoods that could be the "Bad side of town", I don't see drive by shootings, hookers, or criminal activity. I see people going on with their daily lives, struggling to keep a balanced budget, raise their kids, get groceries, commute to work and back again, talk to friends, play football or basketball in their yards, or just sit around and soak up the sun.
And all that is colorblind.
So when rap artists say, in so many words, "We're just calling it like we see it," then I say that I'd like to know just what the hell they are seeing and where. Cause I sure ain't!
Alright, enough tirading and preaching, and all that stuff. I'm going to admit that I could be wrong about many things. I don't listen to rap, I don't live in what would be considered a "bad neighborhood", and I don't frequently hang out with people who do listen to rap, or who have experienced the crimes spoken about in rap. I have known people who HAVE lived in bad neighborhoods, and those kids and their familes (hey, I'm still fresh out of college so I'm referring to people I knew back in high school) are more concerned about cool things coming out and getting by than drive-bys and hos.
So from my point of view and from what I've seen, rap is not "telling it like it is", but rather making it up and selling it to the people in their explicit lyric filled, awful sounding, fantasy world genre that I feel has been corrupted. I long for the old days of Hip-Hop, Soul, and Blues.
And that's what I think is missing from rap.
Don't lump games in with rap either. Games and rap are two separate entities. The closest fusion of the two was in GTA: San Andreas. However, that game was set in the early 90's when the crime rates were high and what was in rap was actually relevant. It was a time before the internet, advanced games, and the social changes of the Clinton administration. The game itself also tells the story in a fictional setting BASED on a historical America of 1.5 decades ago. The only thing closer to the rap genre is the Def Jam series of games, and the latest one was absolutely horrible.
There are also games from Japan, games from Europe, games from South Korea, and many games made in the USA that do not emphasize the negative things found in rap.
It boils down to this:
It's time to stop looking at things in terms of colors, but in terms of cultures and what they stand for.
~Otaku-Man