Submitted by Soldatlouis - October 2, 2007 at 7:51 am -0500193.52.32.157
@hayabusa75 :
In fact, Grossman specialized himself in the act of killing, and the psychological cost of killing, in war as well as in society. He also studied the story of violence, weaponry and combat, but his main speciality remains "killology", the "psychology of killing". After more than a decade of research he wrote the book "On Killing" in 1995/1996, alledgely recommended for reading in West Point.
He had the theory that media violence conditioned children to kill the same way the army did for soldiers, but without army's discipline. However, even though he already targeted video games at that time, he was quite moderate. I think he was only aware of Lightgun games, and he didn't like them at all. But he made it clear he wasn't against all video games (you read exactly what he said about it in "On Killing" at this address : http://www.gamepoliticsforums.com/showpost.php?p=6692&postcount=9
But school shootings changed that. First, he is inhabitant of Jonesboro, he was there during the Jonesboro massacre, and he was training psychologists so that they could help victims, survivor and their families. So he saw a lot of horrible things. Second, he was an "expert witness" in Paducah, when he discovered that Michael Carneal, the Paducah killer, had been playing "Doom" among other things. So he became aware of first-person shooters. And finally, there was Columbine, and after, his second book, the over-cited "Stop Teaching Our Kids To Kill", where his positions became radical.
Since then, he's quoted as an "expert in media violence", or an "expert in the effects of media violence". And he wrote a third essay, "On Combat", that deals more with fighting in general. But two chapters are related to media and video game violence, and they're even more radical than before. You can read them at this address : http://www.killology.com/on_combat_ch2.htm http://www.killology.com/on_combat_ch7.htm
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:57pm gamepolitics: that whole running-for-bar-president was just another attention grab
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:26pm Silencets: Can a disbarred member become President? By the time of the election ol Jacko won't be a lawyo
Posted 07/24/08 at 01:45pm Dark Sovereign: A fitting metaphor lumi
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:21am lumi: their own. Looks like they're arguing with ghosts...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Ooh, and to prove the validity of their arguments, they've deleted all the comments from the gamers/outsiders, and just left
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Wow...there's worse invective and vitriol on that first feminist site's comments than in most gaming forums I've read...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:19am SimonBob: You guys can read the feminist blogs? One of 'em has over 1400 comments -- my browser locks up when I try to load the page!
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:49am M. Carusi: That's probably the message to describe hardcore feminism in general. :P
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:35am Tom90deg: Meh, it seems like most of the comments are "I'm right, and it you don't agree with me, you're a girl-hating masonogystic pig!"
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:30am M. Carusi: Those comment walls on the feminist blogs complaining about FP are generating some hilarious content.
Posted 07/24/08 at 08:48am E. Zachary Knight: @ lunatic, What you see is what you get. Once a comment gets pushed off it is gone forever.
Posted 07/24/08 at 07:39am sortableturnip: Best...comments...ever: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/07/06/jack-needs-your-help.aspx?pg=5&view=threaded
Posted 07/24/08 at 05:42am sortableturnip: Alteffor: I 2nd that motion. GP you should have a special section for all of JT's correspondence to you
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:15pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack is a repressed man. Don´t be surprised...
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:07pm GryphonOsiris: So Jack admitted paying for gay porn... all I can say is wow... just wow...
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: to the case, and he's been on 60 minutes once!
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: GP, you should mention you'll be filing a legal injunction against him if he doesn't comply. Phoenix Wright will be attached
In fact, Grossman specialized himself in the act of killing, and the psychological cost of killing, in war as well as in society. He also studied the story of violence, weaponry and combat, but his main speciality remains "killology", the "psychology of killing". After more than a decade of research he wrote the book "On Killing" in 1995/1996, alledgely recommended for reading in West Point.
He had the theory that media violence conditioned children to kill the same way the army did for soldiers, but without army's discipline. However, even though he already targeted video games at that time, he was quite moderate. I think he was only aware of Lightgun games, and he didn't like them at all. But he made it clear he wasn't against all video games (you read exactly what he said about it in "On Killing" at this address : http://www.gamepoliticsforums.com/showpost.php?p=6692&postcount=9
But school shootings changed that. First, he is inhabitant of Jonesboro, he was there during the Jonesboro massacre, and he was training psychologists so that they could help victims, survivor and their families. So he saw a lot of horrible things. Second, he was an "expert witness" in Paducah, when he discovered that Michael Carneal, the Paducah killer, had been playing "Doom" among other things. So he became aware of first-person shooters. And finally, there was Columbine, and after, his second book, the over-cited "Stop Teaching Our Kids To Kill", where his positions became radical.
Since then, he's quoted as an "expert in media violence", or an "expert in the effects of media violence". And he wrote a third essay, "On Combat", that deals more with fighting in general. But two chapters are related to media and video game violence, and they're even more radical than before. You can read them at this address :
http://www.killology.com/on_combat_ch2.htm
http://www.killology.com/on_combat_ch7.htm