Submitted by OtakuMan - October 7, 2007 at 4:09 pm -050070.187.75.234
Four words:
The Chronicles of Narnia
In this book series, parallels between the lion and Jesus, not to mention the crucifiction, are inherently obvious.
But then again, if you look at a wide variety of media, from top best sellers to TV shows to movies to music, you'll find a number have religious REFERENCES scattered about in them.
In a sense, for churches to understand that moden media and it's religious references can be used to help young people understand the bible better is a step FORWARD for them. Sure some could just be throwing references around willy-nilly, like the Matrix series, but ones that make closer parallels and actually have some story elements directly influenced from the bible can be an excellent teaching tool for churches.
Now you may say that this all flying bull crap and chips, but think about this for a moment:
The SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI and it's spin off the PERSONA series are ALSO heavily influenced by religion. Just NOT Christianity. They are instead influenced by Shintoism, the traditional Japanese religion (even pre-dating Buddhism which other Japanese games also pull things from), and throw in a mixing pot of other mythical and religious creatures. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, can actually teach you about the mythical Christian hierarchy of angels through the fact that you have to FIGHT them in a world gone mad, and every religion and myth under the sun is battling for control.
In my eye, this would be no different from churches in the 70's using "Jesus Christ: Superstar" to reach out to new churchgoers. Even an episode of All in the Family when Archie Bunker is put in a holding cell with a bunch of hippies, where one of them is playing a tape cassette player with the "Jesus Christ: Superstar" soundtrack on it could be used.
I guess it boils down to this:
If churches treat the religious references in games as a book club would treat a book's story, to discuss the meaning and significance of the characters and the story, then it's a good thing. That can inform, educate, and get people interested in the religion.
On the flipside, using the "HEY KIDS! WE GOT TEH HALOZ!" method, then locking the doors and going, "Now to talk about Jesus!", would be the WRONG way.
Lastly, if they want people under 17, I think getting a permission slip would be the final cherry on top to make sure it's all good and reasonable.
Posted 07/09/08 at 05:30am gamepolitics: tetsuya, he doesn't have my fax # (or any of my #'s) since I moved last year.
Posted 07/09/08 at 12:40am Jack Wessels: @PHOENIXZERO: Do you really think that would stop him?
Posted 07/09/08 at 12:29am PHOENIXZERO: Wonder if Jack ever got the memo that attacking a judge, especially the one who presided over your own hearing will only make him look worse.
Posted 07/08/08 at 11:10pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : Dennis you should post that story about JT insulting Judge Tunis. There might be more you could find that Kotaku missed.
Posted 07/08/08 at 08:32pm lordlundar: Jack should realize that when you call everyone crazy, then the only crazy one is the you.
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:06pm DarkTetsuya: @GP I just fear for the safety of your fax machine cause you didn't post it :P
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:02pm PHOENIXZERO: @Krono Yeah, that's probably where it came from. Don't remember if a source was mentioned. Other than it being called a "story" or "study".
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:02pm PHOENIXZERO: Because I was bored and channel surfing. =(
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:59pm GRIZZAM PRIME: PHEONIXZERO, Why the hell are you watching CNN's sodomy butt baby(HLN)?
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:53pm Krono: @PHOENIXZERO: Would that be the AP story about how schools should teach 11+ year old how to avoid abusive datings relationships?
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:34pm PHOENIXZERO: Oh joy, new subject and they bring out Cooper Lawrence who takes a mention about videogames. It's a segment called "Sex Normal for 11-Year-Olds" having to do more so with mental and physical abuse in "relationships" of 11-14 year olds and not sex. >_<
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:28pm PHOENIXZERO: Certainly a stupid segment with their "adolescent psychologist" and a game is different than a movie. Two callers, underwhelming. >_>
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:24pm PHOENIXZERO: CNN has wanted to be Fox Jr since Fox started spanking them in the ratings and Turner was removed from power.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:11pm PHOENIXZERO: UGH, they have the CT AG on there... He sounds like Jack.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:09pm PHOENIXZERO: >_> You can call in 1-800-TELL-HLN.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:09pm PHOENIXZERO: CNN HLN is doing a segment on Beer Pong with their other "morality" blowhard Mike Galanos.
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:47pm Jabrwock: This just in! Jack insults someone. News@11
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:44pm mogbert: I think we can skip that story, we can't cover JT every time he insults someone, we would run out of server space...
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:43pm gamepolitics: nah, intentionally didn't post that... it's just a publicity grab... I only have so much JT tolerance, save 4 more relevant news
Posted 07/08/08 at 02:57pm Xlorep DarkHelm: Dennis doesn't post every little tidbit of information about Whacky-Jacky.
The Chronicles of Narnia
In this book series, parallels between the lion and Jesus, not to mention the crucifiction, are inherently obvious.
But then again, if you look at a wide variety of media, from top best sellers to TV shows to movies to music, you'll find a number have religious REFERENCES scattered about in them.
In a sense, for churches to understand that moden media and it's religious references can be used to help young people understand the bible better is a step FORWARD for them. Sure some could just be throwing references around willy-nilly, like the Matrix series, but ones that make closer parallels and actually have some story elements directly influenced from the bible can be an excellent teaching tool for churches.
Now you may say that this all flying bull crap and chips, but think about this for a moment:
The SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI and it's spin off the PERSONA series are ALSO heavily influenced by religion. Just NOT Christianity. They are instead influenced by Shintoism, the traditional Japanese religion (even pre-dating Buddhism which other Japanese games also pull things from), and throw in a mixing pot of other mythical and religious creatures. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, can actually teach you about the mythical Christian hierarchy of angels through the fact that you have to FIGHT them in a world gone mad, and every religion and myth under the sun is battling for control.
In my eye, this would be no different from churches in the 70's using "Jesus Christ: Superstar" to reach out to new churchgoers. Even an episode of All in the Family when Archie Bunker is put in a holding cell with a bunch of hippies, where one of them is playing a tape cassette player with the "Jesus Christ: Superstar" soundtrack on it could be used.
I guess it boils down to this:
If churches treat the religious references in games as a book club would treat a book's story, to discuss the meaning and significance of the characters and the story, then it's a good thing. That can inform, educate, and get people interested in the religion.
On the flipside, using the "HEY KIDS! WE GOT TEH HALOZ!" method, then locking the doors and going, "Now to talk about Jesus!", would be the WRONG way.
Lastly, if they want people under 17, I think getting a permission slip would be the final cherry on top to make sure it's all good and reasonable.
And that's my two cents.
~Otaku-Man