Submitted by Cidas - December 27, 2007 at 3:40 pm -050071.164.157.182
This will be my second post here on gamepolics, as I don't really see anything else that I can say that no one else is already saying. However one post on these comments have caught my attention.
@Dog_Welder
War has been glorified in movies since even the earliest days of silent film (see: Cecil B. DeMille’s “Birth of a Nation” or Buster Keaton’s “The General”). Move up into John Wayne or Clint Eastwood territory, and it gets even more glorious.
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In a way Birth of a Nation glorified war, but not necessairly true. If anyone is to take this film seriously you should consider its overly racist tones, sterotypes and the reception that it recived with the general american public that included rioting in many cities. Also birth of the nation is partially credited with reviving the KKK as that film was ued at a recuirtment tool for thier causes.
As far as cinema art goes, D.W. Griffith's (director of the film) screenplay revolutionized cinema and helped make feature length films a legitamate venture.
Buster Keaton's "The General" is a film set during the civil war just like Birth of A Nation, but it differs greatly in terms of content. Buster Keaton was much like Charlie Chaplin who were both incredibly popular during the silent film era due to their different by unique styles of comedy acting. The film itself does not glorfy war as much as it is visual humor, as Keaton was known as the "Great Stone Face" and expressed himself physically in order to reach his audience and make them laugh.
As far as John Wayne and Clint Eastwood go, you could definately label them as far more violent and "glorify" war.
I'm sorry if I seem a bit jumpy on this, but I don't want to see two great films that is percieved as glorifying war.
(sorry if there were any grammer problems in this :)
Posted 08/07/08 at 06:58pm SticKboy: @ Muninn - next time, eh? :) Cool handle btw - like Huginn & Munnin?
Posted 08/07/08 at 06:03pm Muninn: it was not my intent to offend, nor to come across as patronizing as i now realize i must have. it was a poor attempt at humor.
Posted 08/07/08 at 05:59pm SticKboy: No, I was merely apologising for assuming he wasn't British in a previous retort. But hey, if you're spoiling for an argument... comments like yours make me think otherwise.
Posted 08/07/08 at 05:17pm ZippyDSMlee: Muninn:fanboyisim FTW!! :P
Posted 08/07/08 at 05:16pm Muninn: @stickboy: are you trying to say that you can only be reasonable with people from the UK?
Posted 08/07/08 at 01:56pm SticKboy: @ beemoh - I apologise profusely for assuming you were North American all this time. It makes half of my replies to you ignorant beyond belief. In future, I'll take a more reasoned stance.
Posted 08/07/08 at 01:54pm beemoh: You're coming to the UK, GP? Awesome- let me know when that happens :D
Posted 08/07/08 at 01:14pm SimonBob: You should swing up to Ottawa sometime, the Tories don't bite (much) ;D
Posted 08/07/08 at 01:00pm GryphonOsiris: @GP, you should take up Black Velvets when you are there 50% Guiness, 50% hard cider. They are heaven.
Posted 08/07/08 at 12:56pm Pominator: GP there is a pub opposite my college, bad planning I think, Stuart reckons it is genious!
Posted 08/07/08 at 12:10pm gamepolitics: never had that before with an embedded video here
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:45am Dark Sovereign: @GP: I suspect for the same reason that youtube videos do. They're on autoplay.
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:42am gamepolitics: omg, why does this video start when you load GP?
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:41am gamepolitics: pom, I go where the Guinness flows... LOL
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:38am Pominator: a bit early for me to start creating your itinerary then?
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:34am gamepolitics: I think my first stop should be a college in Miami...
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:16am Pominator: Hey GP, you should definitely speak at my college in the UK! it has been rated the second best college in all of England! N&CC
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:12am gamepolitics: LOL... So much history!
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:09am SticKboy: Ah well, hopefully at some point in the future then. Although, why anybody would want to visit ol' Blighty for a holiday is beyind me... I suppose you have a thing for bad food and worse weather?
Posted 08/07/08 at 11:05am gamepolitics: stickboy, tourism, I'm afraid on this upcoming trip
@Dog_Welder
War has been glorified in movies since even the earliest days of silent film (see: Cecil B. DeMille’s “Birth of a Nation” or Buster Keaton’s “The General”). Move up into John Wayne or Clint Eastwood territory, and it gets even more glorious.
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In a way Birth of a Nation glorified war, but not necessairly true. If anyone is to take this film seriously you should consider its overly racist tones, sterotypes and the reception that it recived with the general american public that included rioting in many cities. Also birth of the nation is partially credited with reviving the KKK as that film was ued at a recuirtment tool for thier causes.
As far as cinema art goes, D.W. Griffith's (director of the film) screenplay revolutionized cinema and helped make feature length films a legitamate venture.
Buster Keaton's "The General" is a film set during the civil war just like Birth of A Nation, but it differs greatly in terms of content. Buster Keaton was much like Charlie Chaplin who were both incredibly popular during the silent film era due to their different by unique styles of comedy acting. The film itself does not glorfy war as much as it is visual humor, as Keaton was known as the "Great Stone Face" and expressed himself physically in order to reach his audience and make them laugh.
As far as John Wayne and Clint Eastwood go, you could definately label them as far more violent and "glorify" war.
I'm sorry if I seem a bit jumpy on this, but I don't want to see two great films that is percieved as glorifying war.
(sorry if there were any grammer problems in this :)