Submitted by Coravin - December 29, 2007 at 2:23 pm -050071.58.112.128
@ Austin Lewis & @ jds
I'm not trying to counter what you said in general, and first, I hope that your friends and any family in the military continue to have the good luck to not get deployed to Iraq (or Afghanistan), as well as enjoying the potential military benefits without other excessive danger or disruption.
However, most Active Duty jobs in the Army and Marines right now get deployed to Iraq at least once in a 5 year period, and in those states which have always sent their people (to cover the war for those states that can't or won't), Guard and Reserves in GENERAL will go minimum twice in 5 years.
Obviously there are jobs less likely to ever get deployed, and states where the Guard and Reserves are just free/cheap college providers, but the first isn't common outside the Air Force and certain jobs in the Navy, and the second means the rest of us go more often to make up for it. However, that's ignoring issues of rank--if you know mainly officers of certain ranks, or the highest-ranking NCOs, then yes, they may never get deployed, ever, and yes, they won't make only the 20-some thousand dollars a year privates through low-ranking NCO's are likely to see.
But a lot of us here don't have friends/family at those levels, and regardless of where we stand on the usage of videogames of recruitment tools, it's mostly non-comissioned soldiers, primarily infantry and cavalry of low ranks, being targeted with them. The very people who most likely WILL see the horrors of war firsthand, and be deployed for ungodly lengths of time with no real bonuses save danger pay and no taxation.
Posted 07/25/08 at 12:57am Artifex: http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/playstation-2-component-incites-african-war/1231745
Posted 07/25/08 at 12:57am Artifex: Yahoo has picked up the "Playstation War" story.
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:57pm gamepolitics: that whole running-for-bar-president was just another attention grab
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:26pm Silencets: Can a disbarred member become President? By the time of the election ol Jacko won't be a lawyo
Posted 07/24/08 at 01:45pm Dark Sovereign: A fitting metaphor lumi
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:21am lumi: their own. Looks like they're arguing with ghosts...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Ooh, and to prove the validity of their arguments, they've deleted all the comments from the gamers/outsiders, and just left
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Wow...there's worse invective and vitriol on that first feminist site's comments than in most gaming forums I've read...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:19am SimonBob: You guys can read the feminist blogs? One of 'em has over 1400 comments -- my browser locks up when I try to load the page!
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:49am M. Carusi: That's probably the message to describe hardcore feminism in general. :P
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:35am Tom90deg: Meh, it seems like most of the comments are "I'm right, and it you don't agree with me, you're a girl-hating masonogystic pig!"
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:30am M. Carusi: Those comment walls on the feminist blogs complaining about FP are generating some hilarious content.
Posted 07/24/08 at 08:48am E. Zachary Knight: @ lunatic, What you see is what you get. Once a comment gets pushed off it is gone forever.
Posted 07/24/08 at 07:39am sortableturnip: Best...comments...ever: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/07/06/jack-needs-your-help.aspx?pg=5&view=threaded
Posted 07/24/08 at 05:42am sortableturnip: Alteffor: I 2nd that motion. GP you should have a special section for all of JT's correspondence to you
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:15pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack is a repressed man. Don´t be surprised...
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:07pm GryphonOsiris: So Jack admitted paying for gay porn... all I can say is wow... just wow...
I'm not trying to counter what you said in general, and first, I hope that your friends and any family in the military continue to have the good luck to not get deployed to Iraq (or Afghanistan), as well as enjoying the potential military benefits without other excessive danger or disruption.
However, most Active Duty jobs in the Army and Marines right now get deployed to Iraq at least once in a 5 year period, and in those states which have always sent their people (to cover the war for those states that can't or won't), Guard and Reserves in GENERAL will go minimum twice in 5 years.
Obviously there are jobs less likely to ever get deployed, and states where the Guard and Reserves are just free/cheap college providers, but the first isn't common outside the Air Force and certain jobs in the Navy, and the second means the rest of us go more often to make up for it. However, that's ignoring issues of rank--if you know mainly officers of certain ranks, or the highest-ranking NCOs, then yes, they may never get deployed, ever, and yes, they won't make only the 20-some thousand dollars a year privates through low-ranking NCO's are likely to see.
But a lot of us here don't have friends/family at those levels, and regardless of where we stand on the usage of videogames of recruitment tools, it's mostly non-comissioned soldiers, primarily infantry and cavalry of low ranks, being targeted with them. The very people who most likely WILL see the horrors of war firsthand, and be deployed for ungodly lengths of time with no real bonuses save danger pay and no taxation.