Submitted by jkdjr25, formerly bayushisan - December 28, 2007 at 4:27 pm -050024.192.205.247
@JustChris and Sulligan
I'm sorry but you both miss the point. I will readily admit that there are people who abuse the system. However that doesn't change the fact that there are people who do need the help. People who, for no fault of there own, are in a situation where they need the assistance. What do we tell these citizens? That we're sorry and it sucks to be them or the classic "get a job?" ?
I'll use myself as an example again. I've never abused the system and for many years I thought the same way. That the majority of people on these systems didn't really need it, that they were just lazy. I didn't really understand until I was in the situation. Michigan is dead last in jobs and in the economy. There are people here who want to work but can't find a job. There are people who desperately need help to pay their medical bills and the only hope they have of doing so are in programs like medicaid. Where are they supposed to turn? If they don't have the money for medicine they surely don't have the money to pick up and move to state where they could find work.
The point is that Ron Paul is wrong on this one. There are people who need help for a variety of reasons and one of the reaons government exists is to help the people.
Posted 07/24/08 at 01:45pm Dark Sovereign: A fitting metaphor lumi
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:21am lumi: their own. Looks like they're arguing with ghosts...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Ooh, and to prove the validity of their arguments, they've deleted all the comments from the gamers/outsiders, and just left
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Wow...there's worse invective and vitriol on that first feminist site's comments than in most gaming forums I've read...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:19am SimonBob: You guys can read the feminist blogs? One of 'em has over 1400 comments -- my browser locks up when I try to load the page!
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:49am M. Carusi: That's probably the message to describe hardcore feminism in general. :P
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:35am Tom90deg: Meh, it seems like most of the comments are "I'm right, and it you don't agree with me, you're a girl-hating masonogystic pig!"
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:30am M. Carusi: Those comment walls on the feminist blogs complaining about FP are generating some hilarious content.
Posted 07/24/08 at 08:48am E. Zachary Knight: @ lunatic, What you see is what you get. Once a comment gets pushed off it is gone forever.
Posted 07/24/08 at 07:39am sortableturnip: Best...comments...ever: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/07/06/jack-needs-your-help.aspx?pg=5&view=threaded
Posted 07/24/08 at 05:42am sortableturnip: Alteffor: I 2nd that motion. GP you should have a special section for all of JT's correspondence to you
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:15pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack is a repressed man. Don´t be surprised...
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:07pm GryphonOsiris: So Jack admitted paying for gay porn... all I can say is wow... just wow...
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: to the case, and he's been on 60 minutes once!
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: GP, you should mention you'll be filing a legal injunction against him if he doesn't comply. Phoenix Wright will be attached
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:32pm Alteffor: You should add a section to the site for anything Jack CC's to you. It's always entertaining to read the stuff he writes.
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:31pm Matriculated: Does anyone know when the Supreme Court reaches their decission?
I'm sorry but you both miss the point. I will readily admit that there are people who abuse the system. However that doesn't change the fact that there are people who do need the help. People who, for no fault of there own, are in a situation where they need the assistance. What do we tell these citizens? That we're sorry and it sucks to be them or the classic "get a job?" ?
I'll use myself as an example again. I've never abused the system and for many years I thought the same way. That the majority of people on these systems didn't really need it, that they were just lazy. I didn't really understand until I was in the situation. Michigan is dead last in jobs and in the economy. There are people here who want to work but can't find a job. There are people who desperately need help to pay their medical bills and the only hope they have of doing so are in programs like medicaid. Where are they supposed to turn? If they don't have the money for medicine they surely don't have the money to pick up and move to state where they could find work.
The point is that Ron Paul is wrong on this one. There are people who need help for a variety of reasons and one of the reaons government exists is to help the people.