Submitted by Nekojin - February 7, 2008 at 3:08 pm -050064.165.251.10
@Canary Wundaboy:
Why are you Americans so adverse to this? Look, if a game is rated for a certain age group only, why is it wrong that retailers be banned for selling that game to people under the age limit? This is not the problem that faces us today. If parents don’t their 16 year old playing GTA, then they can exercise their parental judgement, and buy the game. The problem that faces us as gamers today is not that games are rated at all, it’s that the media seizes on the fact that it is too easy for kids to get games, either through their parents or through dodgy retailers.
The UK laws are fair, 12 year olds SHOULDNT be allowed to purchase GTA and there SHOULD be penalties for retailers that don’t enforce it. Ultimately, our ratings arent bound by US religious conservatism anyway, hence why Mass Effect is a 12 over here and a 17+ over your side of the pond. The difference is that our ratings are properly enforced, yours arent.
Having been a retail clerk, I can see the other side of the coin. I don't want some minimum-wage clerk being slapped with a $5000 fine because he sold a violent video game to a teenager - especially if selling similar content in a movie wouldn't get similar treatment. And they're not.
If we were talking about porn, that's a different matter (and probably shouldn't be, but that's an entirely different discussion), but a 13-year-old kid can walk into Wal-Mart and buy a copy of, say, the Terminator Trilogy without being carded. These are R-rated movies. Games with a similar level of violence would be ranked as M-rated games. Should the punishment for selling the game be greater than the punishment for selling the movie?
It is my opinion, apologies for not making that clear.
And yeah, I believe that kids shouldn’t be able to purchase games that are deemed by impartial classification boards to be unsuitable for their age group.
As a lifelong gamer, 19 year old and somebody who was only able to play 18 rated games when his parents deemed me ready, that is my opinion. Slate it at will.
Who gets to make those decisions? And why should a government agency make decisions that affects all people by an arbitrary age standard without consideration for a child's maturity level? What makes a 12-year-old different from a 13-year-old? Or a 17-year-old different from an 18 year old?
Why should this not be the parent's decision? That was apparently sufficient for your household...
Posted 07/19/08 at 11:32am Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Don´t you think that maybe Fat Princess will generate a lot of controversy?
Posted 07/19/08 at 08:46am Paul T. Farinelli: To say that he did say it seriously, considering all of the rhetoric that he's spewed before.
Posted 07/19/08 at 08:45am Paul T. Farinelli: Apparently it was a joke on JT's part. He acts as though we all should've realized that, but it's not to big of a stretch
Posted 07/19/08 at 07:14am LuNaTiC: JT was not loved as a child. What jack ass forgot to pull out when creating this abomination??
Posted 07/18/08 at 10:32pm Paul T. Farinelli: Seriously, i haven't been so awe-struck by someone's sheer audacity in...ever!
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:45pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : And I can take "No" for an answer.
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:45pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : JT is such a tool. He thinks he can have his way just because he's a Christian. Listen up, Jackie-boy, I'm a Christian, too.
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:09pm Paul T. Farinelli: Also, I must say that Jack honestly looks like a serial killer in that pic. (not saying he is one, just that he looks creepy)
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:08pm Paul T. Farinelli: Jace was apparently polite.
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:07pm Paul T. Farinelli: I agree, it just seems like pure insanity that Jack would seriously say that to the man's face during an interview, one in which
Posted 07/18/08 at 07:48pm Jack Wessels: If not then... Damn...
Posted 07/18/08 at 07:48pm Jack Wessels: Hey Dennis, I know you can't share the videos JT sent you, but was there perhaps even a slight amount of sarcasm in his replies?
Posted 07/18/08 at 06:21pm tallimar: ... news story so much as a punch line.
Posted 07/18/08 at 06:21pm tallimar: breaking story: JT hates on game dev, news at 11... id find that interesting to watch only to the point that JT isnt a ...
Posted 07/18/08 at 02:50pm BlackIce: I absolutely refuse to read about that Wanker Cameron
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:52pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : BTW, anyone see the new JT story Dennis put up?
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:51pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : IDK about that, Grizzam. Who knows if it did or not?
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:49pm GRIZZAM PRIME: So yeah. E3 hath sucked ballz apparently.
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:42pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : @BlackIce: But I'm not gonna do it, because I have no reason to do it.
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:36pm BlackIce: No wait.. That's Beemoh that i'm thinking of. KN licks people too.
Why are you Americans so adverse to this? Look, if a game is rated for a certain age group only, why is it wrong that retailers be banned for selling that game to people under the age limit? This is not the problem that faces us today. If parents don’t their 16 year old playing GTA, then they can exercise their parental judgement, and buy the game. The problem that faces us as gamers today is not that games are rated at all, it’s that the media seizes on the fact that it is too easy for kids to get games, either through their parents or through dodgy retailers.
The UK laws are fair, 12 year olds SHOULDNT be allowed to purchase GTA and there SHOULD be penalties for retailers that don’t enforce it. Ultimately, our ratings arent bound by US religious conservatism anyway, hence why Mass Effect is a 12 over here and a 17+ over your side of the pond. The difference is that our ratings are properly enforced, yours arent.
Having been a retail clerk, I can see the other side of the coin. I don't want some minimum-wage clerk being slapped with a $5000 fine because he sold a violent video game to a teenager - especially if selling similar content in a movie wouldn't get similar treatment. And they're not.
If we were talking about porn, that's a different matter (and probably shouldn't be, but that's an entirely different discussion), but a 13-year-old kid can walk into Wal-Mart and buy a copy of, say, the Terminator Trilogy without being carded. These are R-rated movies. Games with a similar level of violence would be ranked as M-rated games. Should the punishment for selling the game be greater than the punishment for selling the movie?
It is my opinion, apologies for not making that clear.
And yeah, I believe that kids shouldn’t be able to purchase games that are deemed by impartial classification boards to be unsuitable for their age group.
As a lifelong gamer, 19 year old and somebody who was only able to play 18 rated games when his parents deemed me ready, that is my opinion. Slate it at will.
Who gets to make those decisions? And why should a government agency make decisions that affects all people by an arbitrary age standard without consideration for a child's maturity level? What makes a 12-year-old different from a 13-year-old? Or a 17-year-old different from an 18 year old?
Why should this not be the parent's decision? That was apparently sufficient for your household...