Submitted by Thomas - February 8, 2008 at 1:40 am -050058.6.244.71
Something that everyone should remember, and I feel stupid even needing to say this.. is that the UK is not the US..
We do not have the same culture, nor the same government, nor the same idea of rights and freedoms that you guys do.
Now, I think that is people in the UK started banning games outright, and yet allowing movies through that had the same content... such as the Manhunt 2 debacle.. then things would be done, like they have been about Manhunt 2. We have systems in place to make sure that unjust ratings are sorted out, and they appear to work.
However we have legal repercussions for selling movies to people younger than they should be, just like we have repercussions for selling them knives, cigarettes, porn, and a variety of other things.. when I asked some friends of mine if they thought they same should apply to games, the answer was "umm... yeah.. duhh".
The fact of the matter is, we don't mind, for the most part. We don't mind and many of us in fact welcome the idea that the government would back up the ratings with law. Even the gamers. Generally speaking however, our system also has a tendency to stop stupid things such as the wholesale banning of video games from happening.
Its just a difference in cultures, which I think is something that the US posters here do not understand.. just because you would not accept it as a good thing for you're country, does not actually mean those in the UK will not accept it as a good thing for theirs. As far as most of us is concerned, having a rating system but NOT doing something to enforce is is contradictory. It sends the message "yeah, you SHOULD follow it.. but eh, don't worry!"
If you want an example, look at guns. A central part of your society, uproar ensues if people even suggest controlling or requiring safety features on them. In the UK, they are pretty much banned ouright, and nobody minds that I know off.. making lethal weapons illegal so that the police knows anyone holding one got it illegally? Cutting down on the numbers of weapons out there? "umm, yeah, duh".
Wouldn't work in your country, different culture, worked in ours.
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:15pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack is a repressed man. Don´t be surprised...
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:07pm GryphonOsiris: So Jack admitted paying for gay porn... all I can say is wow... just wow...
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: to the case, and he's been on 60 minutes once!
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: GP, you should mention you'll be filing a legal injunction against him if he doesn't comply. Phoenix Wright will be attached
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:32pm Alteffor: You should add a section to the site for anything Jack CC's to you. It's always entertaining to read the stuff he writes.
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:31pm Matriculated: Does anyone know when the Supreme Court reaches their decission?
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:04pm Freyar: I demand to see this letter! (Not that I have any grounds to demand on.)
Posted 07/23/08 at 02:53pm gamepolitics: JT called me a "sock puppet" in an e-mail to Hal Halpin... i gave him 24 hours to retract it, LOL
Posted 07/23/08 at 02:46pm Haggard: Might want to take a look at what Anthony Horowitz wrote about GTA IV in the Telegraph, article seems to have been taken down
Posted 07/23/08 at 01:05pm Silencets: Beutiful. I always did wonder about Jacko Wacko
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:24am Matriculated: So Jack (an anti-gay activist) PAYED for gay porn
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:22am Matriculated: [i]...and purchased membership.[/i]
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:21am Matriculated: [i] few months later, as part of his ongoing campaign against Kent, Thompson followed links to gay porn on Kent's website[/i]
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:40am sortableturnip: Jack's at it again: http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2008/07/jack_thompson_faces_permanent.php
Posted 07/22/08 at 11:22pm PHOENIXZERO: Ugh, that CNBC program "Play to Win" is it? Is on again...
Posted 07/22/08 at 09:34pm ZippyDSM: todayin zippy land:after spending 8 hours working on my AC unit yesterday it finally died today. theres go 300$ I don't have...tin trailers are ovens in the summer >>
Posted 07/22/08 at 09:17pm Cheater87: http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/news/132121.20080723.Saints-Row-2-uncensored-in-Australia/
We do not have the same culture, nor the same government, nor the same idea of rights and freedoms that you guys do.
Now, I think that is people in the UK started banning games outright, and yet allowing movies through that had the same content... such as the Manhunt 2 debacle.. then things would be done, like they have been about Manhunt 2. We have systems in place to make sure that unjust ratings are sorted out, and they appear to work.
However we have legal repercussions for selling movies to people younger than they should be, just like we have repercussions for selling them knives, cigarettes, porn, and a variety of other things.. when I asked some friends of mine if they thought they same should apply to games, the answer was "umm... yeah.. duhh".
The fact of the matter is, we don't mind, for the most part. We don't mind and many of us in fact welcome the idea that the government would back up the ratings with law. Even the gamers. Generally speaking however, our system also has a tendency to stop stupid things such as the wholesale banning of video games from happening.
Its just a difference in cultures, which I think is something that the US posters here do not understand.. just because you would not accept it as a good thing for you're country, does not actually mean those in the UK will not accept it as a good thing for theirs. As far as most of us is concerned, having a rating system but NOT doing something to enforce is is contradictory. It sends the message "yeah, you SHOULD follow it.. but eh, don't worry!"
If you want an example, look at guns. A central part of your society, uproar ensues if people even suggest controlling or requiring safety features on them. In the UK, they are pretty much banned ouright, and nobody minds that I know off.. making lethal weapons illegal so that the police knows anyone holding one got it illegally? Cutting down on the numbers of weapons out there? "umm, yeah, duh".
Wouldn't work in your country, different culture, worked in ours.