Submitted by Ichi - March 2, 2008 at 11:10 pm -050067.87.43.14
@thomas
There is tons of media about the japanese falling behind in innovation. I mentioned there are some shining examples of the exact opposite, but guess what? Around 90% of the games they make are crappy rehashes of final fantasy or dragon quest or devil may cry, with the same pointy haired character, the same amnesia, the same morality that just goes beyond corny, it's the same game and plot with a different look for the most part and I am just tired of it. I don't deny that the greatest games ever have prolly come out of japan. I don't deny that great games still come out of japan. But be honest, when was the last time a japanese RPG didn't have same basic plot lines and morality that every other one has mostly had.
Don't drag the fact that I took a 360 into this. I was trying to explain and prove a point using a largely western system, don't lose all credibility by turning this into a stupid console wars discussion.
@ GRLGMER
Thanks for actually being polite, what I was trying to show was that yes these two are improvements off of old games. That's the point though because they are mostly that game, but in a lose sense, the plots changed and the gameplay was improved tremendously, I cnt say innovative as something entirely new because there is no such thing. I was trying to show how new systems in the game play and improvement on the gameplay, but with different story lines is the point. It's nest to impossible to have something totally new, but the point is to improve upon the system you are basing a game off of, not to make the exact same thing. There are great Japanese game developers like team ninja for instance, but its just mostly remakes of the same thing with little or no innovation and I for one(not to mention many other gamers and communities) am getting tired of it.
Keep it serious, if you want games to be taken serious as a form of media you can't squabble about which systems better and discredit an argument because I used the 360 as an example, fanboys are bad for the industry and obsession is what makes the media at large consider gaming a child's activity.
Posted 07/19/08 at 11:32am Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Don´t you think that maybe Fat Princess will generate a lot of controversy?
Posted 07/19/08 at 08:46am Paul T. Farinelli: To say that he did say it seriously, considering all of the rhetoric that he's spewed before.
Posted 07/19/08 at 08:45am Paul T. Farinelli: Apparently it was a joke on JT's part. He acts as though we all should've realized that, but it's not to big of a stretch
Posted 07/19/08 at 07:14am LuNaTiC: JT was not loved as a child. What jack ass forgot to pull out when creating this abomination??
Posted 07/18/08 at 10:32pm Paul T. Farinelli: Seriously, i haven't been so awe-struck by someone's sheer audacity in...ever!
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:45pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : And I can take "No" for an answer.
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:45pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : JT is such a tool. He thinks he can have his way just because he's a Christian. Listen up, Jackie-boy, I'm a Christian, too.
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:09pm Paul T. Farinelli: Also, I must say that Jack honestly looks like a serial killer in that pic. (not saying he is one, just that he looks creepy)
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:08pm Paul T. Farinelli: Jace was apparently polite.
Posted 07/18/08 at 09:07pm Paul T. Farinelli: I agree, it just seems like pure insanity that Jack would seriously say that to the man's face during an interview, one in which
Posted 07/18/08 at 07:48pm Jack Wessels: If not then... Damn...
Posted 07/18/08 at 07:48pm Jack Wessels: Hey Dennis, I know you can't share the videos JT sent you, but was there perhaps even a slight amount of sarcasm in his replies?
Posted 07/18/08 at 06:21pm tallimar: ... news story so much as a punch line.
Posted 07/18/08 at 06:21pm tallimar: breaking story: JT hates on game dev, news at 11... id find that interesting to watch only to the point that JT isnt a ...
Posted 07/18/08 at 02:50pm BlackIce: I absolutely refuse to read about that Wanker Cameron
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:52pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : BTW, anyone see the new JT story Dennis put up?
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:51pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : IDK about that, Grizzam. Who knows if it did or not?
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:49pm GRIZZAM PRIME: So yeah. E3 hath sucked ballz apparently.
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:42pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : @BlackIce: But I'm not gonna do it, because I have no reason to do it.
Posted 07/18/08 at 01:36pm BlackIce: No wait.. That's Beemoh that i'm thinking of. KN licks people too.
There is tons of media about the japanese falling behind in innovation. I mentioned there are some shining examples of the exact opposite, but guess what? Around 90% of the games they make are crappy rehashes of final fantasy or dragon quest or devil may cry, with the same pointy haired character, the same amnesia, the same morality that just goes beyond corny, it's the same game and plot with a different look for the most part and I am just tired of it. I don't deny that the greatest games ever have prolly come out of japan. I don't deny that great games still come out of japan. But be honest, when was the last time a japanese RPG didn't have same basic plot lines and morality that every other one has mostly had.
Don't drag the fact that I took a 360 into this. I was trying to explain and prove a point using a largely western system, don't lose all credibility by turning this into a stupid console wars discussion.
@ GRLGMER
Thanks for actually being polite, what I was trying to show was that yes these two are improvements off of old games. That's the point though because they are mostly that game, but in a lose sense, the plots changed and the gameplay was improved tremendously, I cnt say innovative as something entirely new because there is no such thing. I was trying to show how new systems in the game play and improvement on the gameplay, but with different story lines is the point. It's nest to impossible to have something totally new, but the point is to improve upon the system you are basing a game off of, not to make the exact same thing. There are great Japanese game developers like team ninja for instance, but its just mostly remakes of the same thing with little or no innovation and I for one(not to mention many other gamers and communities) am getting tired of it.
Keep it serious, if you want games to be taken serious as a form of media you can't squabble about which systems better and discredit an argument because I used the 360 as an example, fanboys are bad for the industry and obsession is what makes the media at large consider gaming a child's activity.