Submitted by "..." - March 17, 2008 at 6:05 am -0500128.54.228.80
@ potatojones83, Clever
Of COURSE the MGS series should be banned! How can a torture porn murder simulator that encourages us to critically question US government policy have any political value?
As for this law...*headdesk* The only good thing about it is that it doesn't drag in the ESRB ratings. Let's take a closer look, shall we?
"RESTRICT THE SALE OF VIDEO GAMES WIH VIOLENT CONTENT"
Lack of spellcheck does not inspire confidence.
"matter is harmful to minors if it is obscene"
There is no factual basis for this. Also note how no definition is provided for "obscene", it just goes without saying.
"or, if taken as a whole, it (1) [is a porn game] (2) [offends the standards of a few adults who want to ban the game for the rest of us] (3) is patently contrary to prevailing standards of adults in the county where the offense was committed"
What "offense"? The "offense" of selling a "harmful" game to a minor? But if it's counted as an offense, then isn't it already presupposed to be "contrary to prevailing standards"? This clause is either unnecessary or could be used to show that any game is "harmful to minors".
"and (4) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for minors."
The sad thing is, even if a violent game (say, MGS4) has SLAPS, under this law your average retailer will look at the cover and the M rating, assume it's another Generic First [sic] Person Shooter, and refuse to stock it. I know that was my first impression of the MGS series. And how can a game HAVE SLAPS for adults but not for minors?
Also notice the "And" clause joining (1), (2), (3), and (4). Under this law, then, almost all M rated games would be exempt due to not having any sexual content...or the word is actually meant to be an "Or", which could be used to ban ANY game, violent or not, deemed to be lacking SLAPS.
Why am I ranting? It will never pass anyway.
Speaking of which, does anyone know the status of Ahhhnold's appeal to the Supreme Court?
Posted 07/24/08 at 01:45pm Dark Sovereign: A fitting metaphor lumi
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:21am lumi: their own. Looks like they're arguing with ghosts...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Ooh, and to prove the validity of their arguments, they've deleted all the comments from the gamers/outsiders, and just left
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Wow...there's worse invective and vitriol on that first feminist site's comments than in most gaming forums I've read...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:19am SimonBob: You guys can read the feminist blogs? One of 'em has over 1400 comments -- my browser locks up when I try to load the page!
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:49am M. Carusi: That's probably the message to describe hardcore feminism in general. :P
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:35am Tom90deg: Meh, it seems like most of the comments are "I'm right, and it you don't agree with me, you're a girl-hating masonogystic pig!"
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:30am M. Carusi: Those comment walls on the feminist blogs complaining about FP are generating some hilarious content.
Posted 07/24/08 at 08:48am E. Zachary Knight: @ lunatic, What you see is what you get. Once a comment gets pushed off it is gone forever.
Posted 07/24/08 at 07:39am sortableturnip: Best...comments...ever: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/07/06/jack-needs-your-help.aspx?pg=5&view=threaded
Posted 07/24/08 at 05:42am sortableturnip: Alteffor: I 2nd that motion. GP you should have a special section for all of JT's correspondence to you
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:15pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack is a repressed man. Don´t be surprised...
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:07pm GryphonOsiris: So Jack admitted paying for gay porn... all I can say is wow... just wow...
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: to the case, and he's been on 60 minutes once!
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: GP, you should mention you'll be filing a legal injunction against him if he doesn't comply. Phoenix Wright will be attached
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:32pm Alteffor: You should add a section to the site for anything Jack CC's to you. It's always entertaining to read the stuff he writes.
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:31pm Matriculated: Does anyone know when the Supreme Court reaches their decission?
Of COURSE the MGS series should be banned! How can a torture porn murder simulator that encourages us to critically question US government policy have any political value?
As for this law...*headdesk* The only good thing about it is that it doesn't drag in the ESRB ratings. Let's take a closer look, shall we?
"RESTRICT THE SALE OF VIDEO GAMES WIH VIOLENT CONTENT"
Lack of spellcheck does not inspire confidence.
"matter is harmful to minors if it is obscene"
There is no factual basis for this. Also note how no definition is provided for "obscene", it just goes without saying.
"or, if taken as a whole, it (1) [is a porn game] (2) [offends the standards of a few adults who want to ban the game for the rest of us] (3) is patently contrary to prevailing standards of adults in the county where the offense was committed"
What "offense"? The "offense" of selling a "harmful" game to a minor? But if it's counted as an offense, then isn't it already presupposed to be "contrary to prevailing standards"? This clause is either unnecessary or could be used to show that any game is "harmful to minors".
"and (4) lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value for minors."
The sad thing is, even if a violent game (say, MGS4) has SLAPS, under this law your average retailer will look at the cover and the M rating, assume it's another Generic First [sic] Person Shooter, and refuse to stock it. I know that was my first impression of the MGS series. And how can a game HAVE SLAPS for adults but not for minors?
Also notice the "And" clause joining (1), (2), (3), and (4). Under this law, then, almost all M rated games would be exempt due to not having any sexual content...or the word is actually meant to be an "Or", which could be used to ban ANY game, violent or not, deemed to be lacking SLAPS.
Why am I ranting? It will never pass anyway.
Speaking of which, does anyone know the status of Ahhhnold's appeal to the Supreme Court?