Submitted by hcf - April 2, 2008 at 5:58 pm -0500204.152.187.144
That's weird, I tried to submit a comment but it's not showing up. Did I hit some max word count? No feedback...
Short stories short (sorry if it sounds rude):
@Muninn:
Yup, good appraisal of potential ISP tactics. IP over DNS is real, google it. It's actually really controversial because it bypasses "walled gardens" (any wireless network that wants you to pay before permitting access to the Internet - they usually let DNS through to do this but intercept http!), and it is a considerable strain on the DNS system as a whole. IP isn't and never was an ISO layer, and there's actually quite a lot of IETF pride invested in this. The phrase "IP over everything, everything over IP," is one that generally connotes that this is by design. If someone can lock you into a layer, they control you, so this is a degree of freedom IP's framers had in mind from the getgo.
The point is; no matter who filters you, if they permit some service, you can most assuredly find a way to tunnel IP over it. So the only way to block access to any part of the Internet with absolute certainty is to disconnect from the Internet entirely.
The outcome of Net Neutrality is a foregone conclusion. The worst any ISP can ever do, with or without legislation, is irritate you.
@Evangel:
Again, Net Neutrality can't and won't do anything about prioritizing network traffic. Its attempt is to do something about complete censures of network traffic, such as resetting torrents.
Posted 07/06/08 at 12:21am infect999: because he's an idiot
Posted 07/05/08 at 11:41pm eraserheadthelynch: why did he send gay porn to the judges?
Posted 07/05/08 at 10:44pm Jack Wessels: @Silencets: Maybe it'll come to JT soon too, so he can finally complete that show cause order....
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:30pm Jose_Pedro_Ramirez: No one believed that the ice at the North Pole would ever melt, but...
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:28pm Haggard: Maybe he thought the judges would appreciate it?
Posted 07/05/08 at 03:27pm Silencets: I'm sure JT had a perfectly good reason sending gay porn....It'll come to me any day now...
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:54pm Grendal: once you send gay porn to judges, I'm comfortable calling you crazy
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:46pm eraserheadthelynch: I dont think hes crazy but his values and social skills are slightly wrack
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:38pm Grendal: Jacks actually a really good example of how not to deal with your mental illness and what can happen if it goes untreated
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:37pm Grendal: Well most people with a mental illness admit it and get help instead of trolling a website for their ego ala jack
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:32pm BlackIce: True, that does explain why the Patriot Act is legal, but..
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:21pm Grendal: As far as I know theres no law banning people with mental illness from holding jobs as lawyers or judges
Posted 07/05/08 at 12:40pm BlackIce: Sadly, the law banning Mentals from any sort of important job isn't well enforced. Therefore, Jackie is still a "Lawyer".
Posted 07/05/08 at 12:23pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack Thompson is drooling right now...
Posted 07/05/08 at 12:23pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: "Two teens were apparently arguing over a Sony PSP in Jacksonville, Florida ended in a shooting".
Posted 07/05/08 at 12:22pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Have you checked this? http://kotaku.com/5022241/psp-at-the-center-of-florida-shooting
Posted 07/05/08 at 11:30am gameman9: I though Jack Thompson was banned.
Posted 07/05/08 at 08:30am sqlrob: metal is right. That metal just happens to be mercuryt
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:58am eraserheadthelynch: mental
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:57am eraserheadthelynch: but hes still a metal case
Short stories short (sorry if it sounds rude):
@Muninn:
Yup, good appraisal of potential ISP tactics. IP over DNS is real, google it. It's actually really controversial because it bypasses "walled gardens" (any wireless network that wants you to pay before permitting access to the Internet - they usually let DNS through to do this but intercept http!), and it is a considerable strain on the DNS system as a whole. IP isn't and never was an ISO layer, and there's actually quite a lot of IETF pride invested in this. The phrase "IP over everything, everything over IP," is one that generally connotes that this is by design. If someone can lock you into a layer, they control you, so this is a degree of freedom IP's framers had in mind from the getgo.
The point is; no matter who filters you, if they permit some service, you can most assuredly find a way to tunnel IP over it. So the only way to block access to any part of the Internet with absolute certainty is to disconnect from the Internet entirely.
The outcome of Net Neutrality is a foregone conclusion. The worst any ISP can ever do, with or without legislation, is irritate you.
@Evangel:
Again, Net Neutrality can't and won't do anything about prioritizing network traffic. Its attempt is to do something about complete censures of network traffic, such as resetting torrents.