Submitted by mogbert - April 7, 2008 at 7:56 am -0500139.76.224.66
See, I see this differently then some of the players here. I was a WoW player for a while, on both PvP and on PvE, and gold farming hurts the game play on both. Now some of you will be going "Wah wah, he annoying me in teh game! Waaaah!" in parody of the slighted player, but keep in mind you are talking about a game that people pay $144 annually to play, for each account, and some people have multiple accounts (especially if your spouce plays).
In PvE, the effect you have is a group of players monopolizing certain resources. Think of it similar to a hurricane relief effort handing out food, and someone pays a group of people to stand in line over and over to collect all the food, then opens a tent selling the food. Since food isn't as important as water, some people are saying, "Stop bellyaching, it's just capatilism at work. It's not as if they are doing it with water!"
Next, imagine our economy if a 10% of the people got machines that could create gold. Suddenly, the value of gold would go down the tube. Of course they would be illegal, and your money would be taken away if caught with it, but people would still do it. Suddenly, that car you need to get to work costs $75,000, and they don't mind charging that much because they know that people are able to get that much money, as long as they don't mind breaking the law.
Now, on PvP servers, things are worse, because they aren't just selling food after the huricane relief, they are selling uzi's. What's the matter? Can't keep your food because people keep shooting at you? No problem, buy an uzi, too? Except they now cost $120,000 for an uzi since the economy is screwed (I'm assuming uzi's don't cost this much normally).
So you are paying for this game, but even pumping money into it isn't enough, you can't keep up with everyone who is breaking the licencing agreement. You loose time that you paid for every time someone with an epic this or that walks by you and decides to gank you. You can't get the drops you need for your quests because people are bot farming the mobs you need.
And none of this even touches the illegal side of gold farming, such as the stolen accounts to get gold to sell, accounts created with stoen credit card numbers to run bot farms, etc...
"Well, if you don't like the game, stop playing!" But I DO like the game, I don't like the people CHEATING at the game that is ruinging my moneys worth. It's like people talking loudly on their cell phone in the theater, I don't hear people justifying it by saying "They paid money to be in here just like you did, if they want to spend it on their cell phone, why not? It's a free country!"
So yes, I feel that botters and gold farmers should be stripped of virtual posetions, kicked, banned, their web addresses and all itinerations of their addresses be filtered from the chats, and even up to and including IP blocks banned.
Posted 07/06/08 at 12:21am infect999: because he's an idiot
Posted 07/05/08 at 11:41pm eraserheadthelynch: why did he send gay porn to the judges?
Posted 07/05/08 at 10:44pm Jack Wessels: @Silencets: Maybe it'll come to JT soon too, so he can finally complete that show cause order....
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:30pm Jose_Pedro_Ramirez: No one believed that the ice at the North Pole would ever melt, but...
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:28pm Haggard: Maybe he thought the judges would appreciate it?
Posted 07/05/08 at 03:27pm Silencets: I'm sure JT had a perfectly good reason sending gay porn....It'll come to me any day now...
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:54pm Grendal: once you send gay porn to judges, I'm comfortable calling you crazy
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:46pm eraserheadthelynch: I dont think hes crazy but his values and social skills are slightly wrack
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:38pm Grendal: Jacks actually a really good example of how not to deal with your mental illness and what can happen if it goes untreated
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:37pm Grendal: Well most people with a mental illness admit it and get help instead of trolling a website for their ego ala jack
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:32pm BlackIce: True, that does explain why the Patriot Act is legal, but..
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:21pm Grendal: As far as I know theres no law banning people with mental illness from holding jobs as lawyers or judges
Posted 07/05/08 at 12:40pm BlackIce: Sadly, the law banning Mentals from any sort of important job isn't well enforced. Therefore, Jackie is still a "Lawyer".
Posted 07/05/08 at 12:23pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack Thompson is drooling right now...
Posted 07/05/08 at 12:23pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: "Two teens were apparently arguing over a Sony PSP in Jacksonville, Florida ended in a shooting".
Posted 07/05/08 at 12:22pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Have you checked this? http://kotaku.com/5022241/psp-at-the-center-of-florida-shooting
Posted 07/05/08 at 11:30am gameman9: I though Jack Thompson was banned.
Posted 07/05/08 at 08:30am sqlrob: metal is right. That metal just happens to be mercuryt
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:58am eraserheadthelynch: mental
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:57am eraserheadthelynch: but hes still a metal case
In PvE, the effect you have is a group of players monopolizing certain resources. Think of it similar to a hurricane relief effort handing out food, and someone pays a group of people to stand in line over and over to collect all the food, then opens a tent selling the food. Since food isn't as important as water, some people are saying, "Stop bellyaching, it's just capatilism at work. It's not as if they are doing it with water!"
Next, imagine our economy if a 10% of the people got machines that could create gold. Suddenly, the value of gold would go down the tube. Of course they would be illegal, and your money would be taken away if caught with it, but people would still do it. Suddenly, that car you need to get to work costs $75,000, and they don't mind charging that much because they know that people are able to get that much money, as long as they don't mind breaking the law.
Now, on PvP servers, things are worse, because they aren't just selling food after the huricane relief, they are selling uzi's. What's the matter? Can't keep your food because people keep shooting at you? No problem, buy an uzi, too? Except they now cost $120,000 for an uzi since the economy is screwed (I'm assuming uzi's don't cost this much normally).
So you are paying for this game, but even pumping money into it isn't enough, you can't keep up with everyone who is breaking the licencing agreement. You loose time that you paid for every time someone with an epic this or that walks by you and decides to gank you. You can't get the drops you need for your quests because people are bot farming the mobs you need.
And none of this even touches the illegal side of gold farming, such as the stolen accounts to get gold to sell, accounts created with stoen credit card numbers to run bot farms, etc...
"Well, if you don't like the game, stop playing!" But I DO like the game, I don't like the people CHEATING at the game that is ruinging my moneys worth. It's like people talking loudly on their cell phone in the theater, I don't hear people justifying it by saying "They paid money to be in here just like you did, if they want to spend it on their cell phone, why not? It's a free country!"
So yes, I feel that botters and gold farmers should be stripped of virtual posetions, kicked, banned, their web addresses and all itinerations of their addresses be filtered from the chats, and even up to and including IP blocks banned.