Submitted by nightstalker160 - April 10, 2008 at 11:22 am -0500128.239.163.17
@ Lard
So let me see if I understand this:
You think Dennis should stop posting JT stories, in fact you demanded he do so. Thereby infringing on his freedom of speech (and probably freedom of the press by the way). Then you get upset when people yell at you to shut up and go away saying THEY are infringing on YOUR freedom of speech.
Yeah, that is totally logically consistent, you're definitely practicing what you preach there.
Two quick observations for you:
1. Freedom of speech doesn't protect speech you like, it protects speech you hate
2. Freedom of speech includes the freedom of others to tell you to shut up
As people said, you don't like it, you don't have to read it. You can read the many other fine articles Dennis posts. It's not like he hides JT articles under fake headlines, you don't like them, scroll past and click the next one.
The fact that you seem to post almost exclusively to JT articles indicates to me that you are interested in them and looking for them (if only so that you can criticize them) which kind of defeats your own argument. If Dennis were to stop posting them...what would you do? Start posting about how there are no more JT articles for you criticize?
You also suggest that Dennis should put a stop to the attacks on you. Well guess what, Freedom of Speech includes the freedom of others to criticize you. There is no such thing as the "Freedom from offense."
So long as people aren't threatening you, making legally "obscene" comments, or inciting others to "imminent lawless action" they're comments, insulting though you may find them, are covered under Freedom of Speech.
So you champion Freedom of Speech on the one hand, yet imply that Dennis should be blocking comments that you feel are offensive towards you.
I will say this, I do not agree with the personal attacks directed at you, that is not appropriate. But I wholeheartedly agree with the "You don't like it, well don't read it" suggestion that has been made.
Also, do remember this is not a news site. It is a political issue blog, an editorial/commentary page. It is not anymore journalistic than the editorial page of a newspaper or a political commentary show such as "The O'Reilly Factor." It should not be considered an objective news source, if you are thinking of it as so you are wrong, pure, plain, and simple.
Posted 07/09/08 at 12:40am Jack Wessels: @PHOENIXZERO: Do you really think that would stop him?
Posted 07/09/08 at 12:29am PHOENIXZERO: Wonder if Jack ever got the memo that attacking a judge, especially the one who presided over your own hearing will only make him look worse.
Posted 07/08/08 at 11:10pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : Dennis you should post that story about JT insulting Judge Tunis. There might be more you could find that Kotaku missed.
Posted 07/08/08 at 08:32pm lordlundar: Jack should realize that when you call everyone crazy, then the only crazy one is the you.
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:06pm DarkTetsuya: @GP I just fear for the safety of your fax machine cause you didn't post it :P
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:02pm PHOENIXZERO: @Krono Yeah, that's probably where it came from. Don't remember if a source was mentioned. Other than it being called a "story" or "study".
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:02pm PHOENIXZERO: Because I was bored and channel surfing. =(
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:59pm GRIZZAM PRIME: PHEONIXZERO, Why the hell are you watching CNN's sodomy butt baby(HLN)?
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:53pm Krono: @PHOENIXZERO: Would that be the AP story about how schools should teach 11+ year old how to avoid abusive datings relationships?
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:34pm PHOENIXZERO: Oh joy, new subject and they bring out Cooper Lawrence who takes a mention about videogames. It's a segment called "Sex Normal for 11-Year-Olds" having to do more so with mental and physical abuse in "relationships" of 11-14 year olds and not sex. >_<
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:28pm PHOENIXZERO: Certainly a stupid segment with their "adolescent psychologist" and a game is different than a movie. Two callers, underwhelming. >_>
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:24pm PHOENIXZERO: CNN has wanted to be Fox Jr since Fox started spanking them in the ratings and Turner was removed from power.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:11pm PHOENIXZERO: UGH, they have the CT AG on there... He sounds like Jack.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:09pm PHOENIXZERO: >_> You can call in 1-800-TELL-HLN.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:09pm PHOENIXZERO: CNN HLN is doing a segment on Beer Pong with their other "morality" blowhard Mike Galanos.
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:47pm Jabrwock: This just in! Jack insults someone. News@11
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:44pm mogbert: I think we can skip that story, we can't cover JT every time he insults someone, we would run out of server space...
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:43pm gamepolitics: nah, intentionally didn't post that... it's just a publicity grab... I only have so much JT tolerance, save 4 more relevant news
Posted 07/08/08 at 02:57pm Xlorep DarkHelm: Dennis doesn't post every little tidbit of information about Whacky-Jacky.
Posted 07/08/08 at 02:52pm DarkTetsuya: freak4all: I just posted that ... but yeah they did
So let me see if I understand this:
You think Dennis should stop posting JT stories, in fact you demanded he do so. Thereby infringing on his freedom of speech (and probably freedom of the press by the way). Then you get upset when people yell at you to shut up and go away saying THEY are infringing on YOUR freedom of speech.
Yeah, that is totally logically consistent, you're definitely practicing what you preach there.
Two quick observations for you:
1. Freedom of speech doesn't protect speech you like, it protects speech you hate
2. Freedom of speech includes the freedom of others to tell you to shut up
As people said, you don't like it, you don't have to read it. You can read the many other fine articles Dennis posts. It's not like he hides JT articles under fake headlines, you don't like them, scroll past and click the next one.
The fact that you seem to post almost exclusively to JT articles indicates to me that you are interested in them and looking for them (if only so that you can criticize them) which kind of defeats your own argument. If Dennis were to stop posting them...what would you do? Start posting about how there are no more JT articles for you criticize?
You also suggest that Dennis should put a stop to the attacks on you. Well guess what, Freedom of Speech includes the freedom of others to criticize you. There is no such thing as the "Freedom from offense."
So long as people aren't threatening you, making legally "obscene" comments, or inciting others to "imminent lawless action" they're comments, insulting though you may find them, are covered under Freedom of Speech.
So you champion Freedom of Speech on the one hand, yet imply that Dennis should be blocking comments that you feel are offensive towards you.
I will say this, I do not agree with the personal attacks directed at you, that is not appropriate. But I wholeheartedly agree with the "You don't like it, well don't read it" suggestion that has been made.
Also, do remember this is not a news site. It is a political issue blog, an editorial/commentary page. It is not anymore journalistic than the editorial page of a newspaper or a political commentary show such as "The O'Reilly Factor." It should not be considered an objective news source, if you are thinking of it as so you are wrong, pure, plain, and simple.