Submitted by Kajex - October 22, 2006 at 12:07 am -050068.5.21.98
I posted this in a yahoo discussion on the topic.
"The fear of these video games stems from media fear- a fear that 1 out of a U.S. population of 300 million is going to kill 20 people, and that it's going to be nobody else but you. Most teens are aware of the fact that there is fact, and there is fiction- adults going around trying to preotect them from these games may mean well, but they unnecessarily and unintentionally insult a teen's intelligence by putting forth that they don't know the difference when it's obvious that they DO know the difference. They further insult everyone else's intelligence by claiming to be in the right when they have a huge misconception of what the game is about in the first place, and ambulance-chasing lawyers like Jack Thompson, who simultaneously wants to "protect" children and slanderizes gamers, help nothing at all.
The general fear in this is that some kid will go out and shoot up a school based on something he played in a video game, based on the pretense that if they die, they'll respawn again like a video game- but most kids are too intelligent to fall for that kind of crap, and the ones that do need their parents to tell them "If you try to pull this off, you're not going to live through it, and you'll regret it." But what do we do instead? Rather than not reading books that are harmless but we think are heathenous like Harry Potter, we instead choose to ban them or burn them so that others who don't think the same way are forced to live under someone else's ideals.
The same is true from video games- I personally find that Bully isn't harmful in any way, and if a kid DID try to emulate it, there was something wrong with him in the first place, or their parents weren't educating them, like the kid who tried to jump off a roof and fly because he thought he was a Pidgey from the game series Pokemon. But if we have to ban an admittedly fun game on the grounds that others find it offensive or don't want their children to play it, then we're forcing others who don't think the same way to be denied of the game and are therefore restricted with another person's ideal- and that's not right. I personally think that Smallville is the stupidest show in existance, but I'm not going to try to have it banned because of my ideal.
At least 100 popular games are released EACH YEAR, and only a handful of them, 12% as surveyed by the ESA, are rated 'M' for mature, and are suited for the older gamer- yes, there are older gamers, and before you tell them to go get a life, tell your hunting husband, or fishing uncle, that there are better things to do- or let them decide how the hell they'd like to spend a weekend. Rather than focus on the fact that there is a movie called Kill Bill, why don't you look away and find a sequel to Bambi for your kid instead of bringing attention to something you don't like? "
Posted 07/09/08 at 12:40am Jack Wessels: @PHOENIXZERO: Do you really think that would stop him?
Posted 07/09/08 at 12:29am PHOENIXZERO: Wonder if Jack ever got the memo that attacking a judge, especially the one who presided over your own hearing will only make him look worse.
Posted 07/08/08 at 11:10pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of : Dennis you should post that story about JT insulting Judge Tunis. There might be more you could find that Kotaku missed.
Posted 07/08/08 at 08:32pm lordlundar: Jack should realize that when you call everyone crazy, then the only crazy one is the you.
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:06pm DarkTetsuya: @GP I just fear for the safety of your fax machine cause you didn't post it :P
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:02pm PHOENIXZERO: @Krono Yeah, that's probably where it came from. Don't remember if a source was mentioned. Other than it being called a "story" or "study".
Posted 07/08/08 at 06:02pm PHOENIXZERO: Because I was bored and channel surfing. =(
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:59pm GRIZZAM PRIME: PHEONIXZERO, Why the hell are you watching CNN's sodomy butt baby(HLN)?
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:53pm Krono: @PHOENIXZERO: Would that be the AP story about how schools should teach 11+ year old how to avoid abusive datings relationships?
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:34pm PHOENIXZERO: Oh joy, new subject and they bring out Cooper Lawrence who takes a mention about videogames. It's a segment called "Sex Normal for 11-Year-Olds" having to do more so with mental and physical abuse in "relationships" of 11-14 year olds and not sex. >_<
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:28pm PHOENIXZERO: Certainly a stupid segment with their "adolescent psychologist" and a game is different than a movie. Two callers, underwhelming. >_>
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:24pm PHOENIXZERO: CNN has wanted to be Fox Jr since Fox started spanking them in the ratings and Turner was removed from power.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:11pm PHOENIXZERO: UGH, they have the CT AG on there... He sounds like Jack.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:09pm PHOENIXZERO: >_> You can call in 1-800-TELL-HLN.
Posted 07/08/08 at 05:09pm PHOENIXZERO: CNN HLN is doing a segment on Beer Pong with their other "morality" blowhard Mike Galanos.
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:47pm Jabrwock: This just in! Jack insults someone. News@11
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:44pm mogbert: I think we can skip that story, we can't cover JT every time he insults someone, we would run out of server space...
Posted 07/08/08 at 03:43pm gamepolitics: nah, intentionally didn't post that... it's just a publicity grab... I only have so much JT tolerance, save 4 more relevant news
Posted 07/08/08 at 02:57pm Xlorep DarkHelm: Dennis doesn't post every little tidbit of information about Whacky-Jacky.
Posted 07/08/08 at 02:52pm DarkTetsuya: freak4all: I just posted that ... but yeah they did
"The fear of these video games stems from media fear- a fear that 1 out of a U.S. population of 300 million is going to kill 20 people, and that it's going to be nobody else but you. Most teens are aware of the fact that there is fact, and there is fiction- adults going around trying to preotect them from these games may mean well, but they unnecessarily and unintentionally insult a teen's intelligence by putting forth that they don't know the difference when it's obvious that they DO know the difference. They further insult everyone else's intelligence by claiming to be in the right when they have a huge misconception of what the game is about in the first place, and ambulance-chasing lawyers like Jack Thompson, who simultaneously wants to "protect" children and slanderizes gamers, help nothing at all.
The general fear in this is that some kid will go out and shoot up a school based on something he played in a video game, based on the pretense that if they die, they'll respawn again like a video game- but most kids are too intelligent to fall for that kind of crap, and the ones that do need their parents to tell them "If you try to pull this off, you're not going to live through it, and you'll regret it." But what do we do instead? Rather than not reading books that are harmless but we think are heathenous like Harry Potter, we instead choose to ban them or burn them so that others who don't think the same way are forced to live under someone else's ideals.
The same is true from video games- I personally find that Bully isn't harmful in any way, and if a kid DID try to emulate it, there was something wrong with him in the first place, or their parents weren't educating them, like the kid who tried to jump off a roof and fly because he thought he was a Pidgey from the game series Pokemon. But if we have to ban an admittedly fun game on the grounds that others find it offensive or don't want their children to play it, then we're forcing others who don't think the same way to be denied of the game and are therefore restricted with another person's ideal- and that's not right. I personally think that Smallville is the stupidest show in existance, but I'm not going to try to have it banned because of my ideal.
At least 100 popular games are released EACH YEAR, and only a handful of them, 12% as surveyed by the ESA, are rated 'M' for mature, and are suited for the older gamer- yes, there are older gamers, and before you tell them to go get a life, tell your hunting husband, or fishing uncle, that there are better things to do- or let them decide how the hell they'd like to spend a weekend. Rather than focus on the fact that there is a movie called Kill Bill, why don't you look away and find a sequel to Bambi for your kid instead of bringing attention to something you don't like? "
As for the Neural Pathway comment... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_pathway
Proof that she doesn't know what she's talking about.