Submitted by Weatherlight - February 25, 2007 at 2:35 pm -050085.179.234.182
@DrkMatter & Thefremen
I dont claim to know anything about the WoW comunity. But I see blizzard reacting to a guy who is selling a program that runs seperate from their software, but with the purpose of being used with their software. The only reason I see them reacting this way not because they want to protect the players, but because this guy is making money off of it.
It is not a program that targets other ingame players, so the program itself does not cause other players harm. What causes them harm is the people who resell accounts, ingame currency/items ect... A normal player is not going to use this program for this purpose.
Although this program is cheep, I do not see it as a just reason for their reaction. They did not send him a "cease and desist" notice he "was visited at his home". I do not blame him for reacting the way that he did because a company does not send a representitive to give a cease and disist notice. Blizzard has a history of bullying people into submission and not taking action on behalf of the players until they feel it is worth it. I dont condone what this guys program, but I do not condone the actions of blizzard at all.
I am a strong beliver that the EULA is a load of crap. nobody even bothers reading them anymore. As a player if you dont want to play the game yourself, whats the point in buying it? But when I read that if they dont like my connection settings they can ban me permently, and I cant even call them up and ask why. Tell me how thats ok? EULA, simply says we can ban you for no reason at all, and prevent you from playing this or any of our other games in the future at our discression.
Quick example: I have two starcraft accounts that were banned because Blizzard decided to ban the local ISP. When I contacted them they refused to tell me why they were banned, all I got from them was to reformat my computer and buy a new copy. Which I did and was banned again. Point is they need to act on behalf of the players and not because of profits.
Posted 07/24/08 at 01:45pm Dark Sovereign: A fitting metaphor lumi
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:21am lumi: their own. Looks like they're arguing with ghosts...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Ooh, and to prove the validity of their arguments, they've deleted all the comments from the gamers/outsiders, and just left
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:20am lumi: Wow...there's worse invective and vitriol on that first feminist site's comments than in most gaming forums I've read...
Posted 07/24/08 at 11:19am SimonBob: You guys can read the feminist blogs? One of 'em has over 1400 comments -- my browser locks up when I try to load the page!
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:49am M. Carusi: That's probably the message to describe hardcore feminism in general. :P
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:35am Tom90deg: Meh, it seems like most of the comments are "I'm right, and it you don't agree with me, you're a girl-hating masonogystic pig!"
Posted 07/24/08 at 10:30am M. Carusi: Those comment walls on the feminist blogs complaining about FP are generating some hilarious content.
Posted 07/24/08 at 08:48am E. Zachary Knight: @ lunatic, What you see is what you get. Once a comment gets pushed off it is gone forever.
Posted 07/24/08 at 07:39am sortableturnip: Best...comments...ever: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2008/07/06/jack-needs-your-help.aspx?pg=5&view=threaded
Posted 07/24/08 at 05:42am sortableturnip: Alteffor: I 2nd that motion. GP you should have a special section for all of JT's correspondence to you
Posted 07/23/08 at 10:13pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Lunatic: Nope. Ever fading if I'm not mistaken.
Posted 07/23/08 at 08:05pm LuNaTiC: is there a way to view old shouts? sorry if its a noob question.
Posted 07/23/08 at 07:07pm gamepolitics: momma didn't raise no sock puppet
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:15pm Rodrigo Ybáñez García: Jack is a repressed man. Don´t be surprised...
Posted 07/23/08 at 06:07pm GryphonOsiris: So Jack admitted paying for gay porn... all I can say is wow... just wow...
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: to the case, and he's been on 60 minutes once!
Posted 07/23/08 at 05:09pm lumi: GP, you should mention you'll be filing a legal injunction against him if he doesn't comply. Phoenix Wright will be attached
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:32pm Alteffor: You should add a section to the site for anything Jack CC's to you. It's always entertaining to read the stuff he writes.
Posted 07/23/08 at 03:31pm Matriculated: Does anyone know when the Supreme Court reaches their decission?
I dont claim to know anything about the WoW comunity. But I see blizzard reacting to a guy who is selling a program that runs seperate from their software, but with the purpose of being used with their software. The only reason I see them reacting this way not because they want to protect the players, but because this guy is making money off of it.
It is not a program that targets other ingame players, so the program itself does not cause other players harm. What causes them harm is the people who resell accounts, ingame currency/items ect... A normal player is not going to use this program for this purpose.
Although this program is cheep, I do not see it as a just reason for their reaction. They did not send him a "cease and desist" notice he "was visited at his home". I do not blame him for reacting the way that he did because a company does not send a representitive to give a cease and disist notice. Blizzard has a history of bullying people into submission and not taking action on behalf of the players until they feel it is worth it. I dont condone what this guys program, but I do not condone the actions of blizzard at all.
I am a strong beliver that the EULA is a load of crap. nobody even bothers reading them anymore. As a player if you dont want to play the game yourself, whats the point in buying it? But when I read that if they dont like my connection settings they can ban me permently, and I cant even call them up and ask why. Tell me how thats ok? EULA, simply says we can ban you for no reason at all, and prevent you from playing this or any of our other games in the future at our discression.
Quick example: I have two starcraft accounts that were banned because Blizzard decided to ban the local ISP. When I contacted them they refused to tell me why they were banned, all I got from them was to reformat my computer and buy a new copy. Which I did and was banned again. Point is they need to act on behalf of the players and not because of profits.