Submitted by K-OSS - February 26, 2007 at 5:36 pm -050068.35.10.157
"People who complain about how this upsets the economy need to realise there’s been plenty of other factors ruining it"
Seriously, I'm on the Nazgrel realm. There's no botters or gold farmers ruining the economy. It's an army of people who don't know what they're doing sticking dozens of stacks of mithril and truesilver on the AH for 30 silver a stack. Simply put, Bots and Goldfarmers can damage the WoW economy. So can stupid people. Blizzard should ban all stupid people too. It makes just as much sense as:
"THAT IN BLIZZARD’S SOLE DETERMINATION: (i) ENABLES OR FACILITATES CHEATING OF ANY TYPE;" (from the EULA)
It essentially means, that if Blizzard considers you're sibling logging in to your account is cheating, they can legally ban your account. That's the supreme legal fire in this whole thing. Blizzard can ban anyone they want and just say something they were doing Blizzard considers cheating. Hey, you AFK'd out of Alterac Valley, that's cheating. BAM! Banned. You entire group just dropped out of a Warsong match! That's Cheating! BAM! Banned. It's a glorious use of loose terminology. Sucks for us, but Blizz gets that cash when you end up buying another account.
And for the dozen of you wanting this man to suffer like the ninth ring of hell for this because he's ruining your 'game'? I quoth William Shatner: "Get a life!" I play WoW, I see a bot, I don't fret. Someone wants to risk their account to take a shortcut? Feel free, it's their buck, not mine. Creating an unfair advantage? I can only assume you mean PvP, which is the same argument for any gank until you ding 70, regardless of bots or not, so just shut it. Destroying the economy? Get your guildies together and start a monopoly on something not so ridiculous on the AH, like Silk or Wool, and make your own fortune. Where there's a will there's a way, so stop complaining about how your precious toon is only level 16 and doesn't have 100 gold to twink yourself out.
Overall, I agree that they can ban anyone who uses this, and should try to. But Blizzard complaining that this program is unlawfully persuading users to cheat and get banned against their will is stupid, and the fact that they want this guy to turn over the source code, customer records, profits, domain name - that seems kinda messed up. Especially since they really are suing a guy for making a really good macro (It really boils down to it).
As someone on the WoWGlider forums has stated, if this does go through, there will probably be an anonymous Glider that'll appear in another six months to retaliate. And we repeat.
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:38am tallimar: hmm... youre right, im not getting the right mind frame... "YOU WILL LIKE FRIES WITH THAT!" how's that?
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:36am gameman9: Nah, he will just scare the customers.
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:35am tallimar: i think jack's new line may end up being "would you like fries with that?"
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:00am Adamas Draconis: His fave line. Always thought it should be "They've got me right where I want them."
Posted 07/06/08 at 10:43am gamepolitics: he's got 'em right where he wants 'em,LOL
Posted 07/06/08 at 10:30am Silencets: It was a great idea. Just another step in the overarcing master plan off JT...we little people wouldn't understand....
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:35am Jack Wessels: Yeah I knew that part. I'm just amazed at whatever thought process led him to think that was a good idea.
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:33am gamepolitics: actually, he also sent similar material to the FL Supreme Court about 6 months before that
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:24am Jack Wessels: for him and would somehow get Kent in trouble.
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:23am Jack Wessels: @GP: Wow, I've skimmed that one before, but I never noticed that JT actually thought this was good news....
Posted 07/06/08 at 04:40am gamepolitics: eraser: see our original story on that:http://tinyurl.com/6nm9oe
Posted 07/06/08 at 12:21am infect999: because he's an idiot
Posted 07/05/08 at 11:41pm eraserheadthelynch: why did he send gay porn to the judges?
Posted 07/05/08 at 10:44pm Jack Wessels: @Silencets: Maybe it'll come to JT soon too, so he can finally complete that show cause order....
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:30pm Jose_Pedro_Ramirez: No one believed that the ice at the North Pole would ever melt, but...
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:28pm Haggard: Maybe he thought the judges would appreciate it?
Posted 07/05/08 at 03:27pm Silencets: I'm sure JT had a perfectly good reason sending gay porn....It'll come to me any day now...
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:54pm Grendal: once you send gay porn to judges, I'm comfortable calling you crazy
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:46pm eraserheadthelynch: I dont think hes crazy but his values and social skills are slightly wrack
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:38pm Grendal: Jacks actually a really good example of how not to deal with your mental illness and what can happen if it goes untreated
Seriously, I'm on the Nazgrel realm. There's no botters or gold farmers ruining the economy. It's an army of people who don't know what they're doing sticking dozens of stacks of mithril and truesilver on the AH for 30 silver a stack. Simply put, Bots and Goldfarmers can damage the WoW economy. So can stupid people. Blizzard should ban all stupid people too. It makes just as much sense as:
"THAT IN BLIZZARD’S SOLE DETERMINATION: (i) ENABLES OR FACILITATES CHEATING OF ANY TYPE;" (from the EULA)
It essentially means, that if Blizzard considers you're sibling logging in to your account is cheating, they can legally ban your account. That's the supreme legal fire in this whole thing. Blizzard can ban anyone they want and just say something they were doing Blizzard considers cheating. Hey, you AFK'd out of Alterac Valley, that's cheating. BAM! Banned. You entire group just dropped out of a Warsong match! That's Cheating! BAM! Banned. It's a glorious use of loose terminology. Sucks for us, but Blizz gets that cash when you end up buying another account.
And for the dozen of you wanting this man to suffer like the ninth ring of hell for this because he's ruining your 'game'? I quoth William Shatner: "Get a life!" I play WoW, I see a bot, I don't fret. Someone wants to risk their account to take a shortcut? Feel free, it's their buck, not mine. Creating an unfair advantage? I can only assume you mean PvP, which is the same argument for any gank until you ding 70, regardless of bots or not, so just shut it. Destroying the economy? Get your guildies together and start a monopoly on something not so ridiculous on the AH, like Silk or Wool, and make your own fortune. Where there's a will there's a way, so stop complaining about how your precious toon is only level 16 and doesn't have 100 gold to twink yourself out.
Overall, I agree that they can ban anyone who uses this, and should try to. But Blizzard complaining that this program is unlawfully persuading users to cheat and get banned against their will is stupid, and the fact that they want this guy to turn over the source code, customer records, profits, domain name - that seems kinda messed up. Especially since they really are suing a guy for making a really good macro (It really boils down to it).
As someone on the WoWGlider forums has stated, if this does go through, there will probably be an anonymous Glider that'll appear in another six months to retaliate. And we repeat.