Submitted by Chuma - February 26, 2007 at 9:14 am -050081.174.250.249
Ashton:
Your argument, whilst not without some merit, is flawed. As I understand it, this guy CANNOT be locked up for this infringement, only sued. Now if he is going to start throwing around legal threats you have to expect a response. Blizzard's in this case is to counter-sue because they believe they have been wronged. None of this I think is wrong on Blizzard's part, they are just protecting their userbase and their rights.
There is however an interesting legal issue here. Blizzard says that it retains all rights and ownership of characters and equipment ingame, but by suggesting that this software would inflate pricing would be to acknowledge they have some value. This would be something I would stay well away from if I were them. However the other side of it suggesting that they lose revenue from people that THEY ban is again not going to stand up in court. The decision to use the software is the choice of the person who is banned and the decision to ban is Blizzard's so this doesn't affect the Bot creator either.
This will come down to if the Bot is an infringement of copywrite and the EULA and if the EULA has any legal standing. I have no idea how this will pan out in truth, but I also don't think that the Bot creator is the sinned against. He made a program and was making money off it that he KNEW would go against the principles and the EULA of W.o.W.
I also would like to say that I side with those that do not like the idea of cheats ruining thier leisure time. This is a game people invest many hundreds of hours in and pay for the privledge. If this was a game of football and some idiot picked up the ball and started throwing it in the goal time and time again, and you were paying for the time to play on the pitch, you would doubtlessly start getting annoyed.
Clearly you have no idea what a spoiled brat is. I can definitely say it is NOT someone who works for a living and pays their own way to play a game every month and doesn't like the idea of other people cheating. That is someone who respects fair play. All the swearing and tantrums in the world won't change that.
As for the comparison to cheating in a casino, well actuallya recent legal case where people were using electronic devices to count cards ended with the cheats getting to keep the money, but upholding the casino's right to refuse them entry ever again. Doubtless all other casino's will have them on their "No Entry" lists as well. If people side with the casino over this, that doesn't make them spoilt either, just people who dislike cheats.
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:38am tallimar: hmm... youre right, im not getting the right mind frame... "YOU WILL LIKE FRIES WITH THAT!" how's that?
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:36am gameman9: Nah, he will just scare the customers.
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:35am tallimar: i think jack's new line may end up being "would you like fries with that?"
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:00am Adamas Draconis: His fave line. Always thought it should be "They've got me right where I want them."
Posted 07/06/08 at 10:43am gamepolitics: he's got 'em right where he wants 'em,LOL
Posted 07/06/08 at 10:30am Silencets: It was a great idea. Just another step in the overarcing master plan off JT...we little people wouldn't understand....
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:35am Jack Wessels: Yeah I knew that part. I'm just amazed at whatever thought process led him to think that was a good idea.
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:33am gamepolitics: actually, he also sent similar material to the FL Supreme Court about 6 months before that
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:24am Jack Wessels: for him and would somehow get Kent in trouble.
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:23am Jack Wessels: @GP: Wow, I've skimmed that one before, but I never noticed that JT actually thought this was good news....
Posted 07/06/08 at 04:40am gamepolitics: eraser: see our original story on that:http://tinyurl.com/6nm9oe
Posted 07/06/08 at 12:21am infect999: because he's an idiot
Posted 07/05/08 at 11:41pm eraserheadthelynch: why did he send gay porn to the judges?
Posted 07/05/08 at 10:44pm Jack Wessels: @Silencets: Maybe it'll come to JT soon too, so he can finally complete that show cause order....
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:30pm Jose_Pedro_Ramirez: No one believed that the ice at the North Pole would ever melt, but...
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:28pm Haggard: Maybe he thought the judges would appreciate it?
Posted 07/05/08 at 03:27pm Silencets: I'm sure JT had a perfectly good reason sending gay porn....It'll come to me any day now...
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:54pm Grendal: once you send gay porn to judges, I'm comfortable calling you crazy
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:46pm eraserheadthelynch: I dont think hes crazy but his values and social skills are slightly wrack
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:38pm Grendal: Jacks actually a really good example of how not to deal with your mental illness and what can happen if it goes untreated
Your argument, whilst not without some merit, is flawed. As I understand it, this guy CANNOT be locked up for this infringement, only sued. Now if he is going to start throwing around legal threats you have to expect a response. Blizzard's in this case is to counter-sue because they believe they have been wronged. None of this I think is wrong on Blizzard's part, they are just protecting their userbase and their rights.
There is however an interesting legal issue here. Blizzard says that it retains all rights and ownership of characters and equipment ingame, but by suggesting that this software would inflate pricing would be to acknowledge they have some value. This would be something I would stay well away from if I were them. However the other side of it suggesting that they lose revenue from people that THEY ban is again not going to stand up in court. The decision to use the software is the choice of the person who is banned and the decision to ban is Blizzard's so this doesn't affect the Bot creator either.
This will come down to if the Bot is an infringement of copywrite and the EULA and if the EULA has any legal standing. I have no idea how this will pan out in truth, but I also don't think that the Bot creator is the sinned against. He made a program and was making money off it that he KNEW would go against the principles and the EULA of W.o.W.
I also would like to say that I side with those that do not like the idea of cheats ruining thier leisure time. This is a game people invest many hundreds of hours in and pay for the privledge. If this was a game of football and some idiot picked up the ball and started throwing it in the goal time and time again, and you were paying for the time to play on the pitch, you would doubtlessly start getting annoyed.
Clearly you have no idea what a spoiled brat is. I can definitely say it is NOT someone who works for a living and pays their own way to play a game every month and doesn't like the idea of other people cheating. That is someone who respects fair play. All the swearing and tantrums in the world won't change that.
As for the comparison to cheating in a casino, well actuallya recent legal case where people were using electronic devices to count cards ended with the cheats getting to keep the money, but upholding the casino's right to refuse them entry ever again. Doubtless all other casino's will have them on their "No Entry" lists as well. If people side with the casino over this, that doesn't make them spoilt either, just people who dislike cheats.